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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji View Post
    For SCH... Druid Slops(+5 ele skill) or Cobra unit Trews (MAB+2 and set: magic acc). Wearing the hands right now, and will probably pick up head, too.
    Mahatma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    Mahatma?
    Sorry, should have said that I'm lv68. And I should have done more research (just found Kaeko's blog post on SCH). So, in short, ignore, and color me shamed.

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    Thf, Solo Dancing Edge: Rutter Sabatons or Assassin's Poulaines? (No heca yet)

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    The CHR5 willl outdamage the STR3 on the Rutter's in most cases embarrassingly, so you have 0~1fSTR 7atk~ vs +~1-2WSC and 1% Triple Attack.

    Since you say soloDE, the (D + fSTR + WSC) side of the equation is going to be small making WSC increases fairly significant comparatively (as are fSTR increases), but Triple Attack seems broken over 10% from testing done on Homam Corazza (though this is not concrete).

    I guess I'd choose Rutter's just for consistency's sake and the extra atk can't hurt especially if the Trip Attack on the THF feet may not -actually- do anything.

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    Thanks for the reply, as for the Broken TA on Corazza, Deadguy on alla tested it with Corazza and Relic feet I think and got the expected 12%. Maybe it was a blip befor?

    If we assumed the TA to function normally (I don't have TA merits yet anyway, or corazza) then would th relic out-do them?
    Either way yes or no, how do they fare on SADE and TADE? Basically I have seperate SA gear+SA, Ta gear+TA and WS gear macros, then DE macros some other gear on top of that (Ohat and Life belt). Both SA and TA use Dragon leggings, so SA/TA+DE get those whilst the solo DE has Rutters. But I'm considering putting Relic feet into the DE macro so that all variations of DE will use Relic feet.
    Think it's worth it? Otherwise they're just going to go in storage, which would be a shame.

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    I have Assault Earring and Merman's Earring for War/Drk and Sam respectively. I'm running out of box space, and I've been sitting on an Ethereal for awhile, would there be any noticeable difference in dmg/dot if I were to use the Ethereal for all three jobs and gain inv +2?

    Which will provide a more visible gain: Suppa on Blu & Thf, or Bushi on sam, assuming Brutal in the other ear slot? (already own a Triumph earring for ws +str)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolwut View Post
    I have Assault Earring and Merman's Earring for War/Drk and Sam respectively. I'm running out of box space, and I've been sitting on an Ethereal for awhile, would there be any noticeable difference in dmg/dot if I were to use the Ethereal for all three jobs and gain inv +2?

    Which will provide a more visible gain: Suppa on Blu & Thf, or Bushi on sam, assuming Brutal in the other ear slot? (already own a Triumph earring for ws +str)
    I'd sell merman > ethereal, assault harder to give up since it acc on it, but could if you need space and Personally I get more use out of bushi since on sam a lot of the time, so I use bushi on sam and ethereal on blu, so depends how much you play the jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LamiaFang View Post
    I'm focusing right now on capping out my Thief Merits, and am having some trouble finalizing my decision on where to throw the last few upgrades.

    So far I have the following completed:

    Group 1
    Triple Attack - 5/5

    Group 2
    Feint - 5/5
    Aura Steal - 1/1
    Ambush - 1/1
    Assassin's Charge - 1/1
    I have 5 triple attack, 5 trick attack, 5 feint, 1 aura steal, 4 assassin's charge.

    Just gotta keep in mind what you play thf for. For me, it's almost always farming and hnm's for TH4 goodness, not merits or low-manned stuff like limbus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Thanks for the reply, as for the Broken TA on Corazza, Deadguy on alla tested it with Corazza and Relic feet I think and got the expected 12%. Maybe it was a blip befor?

    If we assumed the TA to function normally (I don't have TA merits yet anyway, or corazza) then would th relic out-do them?
    Either way yes or no, how do they fare on SADE and TADE? Basically I have seperate SA gear+SA, Ta gear+TA and WS gear macros, then DE macros some other gear on top of that (Ohat and Life belt). Both SA and TA use Dragon leggings, so SA/TA+DE get those whilst the solo DE has Rutters. But I'm considering putting Relic feet into the DE macro so that all variations of DE will use Relic feet.
    Think it's worth it? Otherwise they're just going to go in storage, which would be a shame.
    For SADE and TADE related stuff I'd use Dragon Leggings until you get Hecatomb Leggings. As for the Triple Attack thingy, it's up to you;

    Triple Attack can only proc on ONE hit on DE when dualwielding due to the 8 round cap, 7atk procs on all landed hits. I personally would choose Rutter's for consistency's sake as well as the fact the 7 or so atk will proc over all landed hits.

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    75 Drg/Sam, 8/8 Plm merits, Acc in TP gear is 403 and Acc in WS gear is 402.

    Optical Hat, or Wyvern Helm for Penta Thrust? As is, I use O hat (which is included in that acc count). As a MNK main, I'm used to stressing Attack and Acc in WS. DRG is my first 2-hander, so I'm not sure how far I should be pushing the STR angle on WS.

    On the same note; would AJ be worth using over SH/Pbody/Acc+10 body piece for WS? I figure it would be for TP, but Penta Thrust is a 5-hit WS. Note: I know Nbody is better than both of these options for this, but Kirin doesn't like dropping my toys. This is just what I have readily available.

    Edit: This is for a Merit situation, eating Meat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji View Post
    For SCH... Druid Slops(+5 ele skill) or Cobra unit Trews (MAB+2 and set: magic acc). Wearing the hands right now, and will probably pick up head, too.
    Assuming you're still sub Mahatma/Errant level and talking about nuking only - the only pieces of Cobra Gear which are possibly worth it IMO are the hands and feet. I went for the Feet only because I had a bunch of stuff waiting. If you have em I'd go with the slops but you'll end up wearing Mahatma/Errant anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    75 Drg/Sam, 8/8 Plm merits, Acc in TP gear is 403 and Acc in WS gear is 402.

    Optical Hat, or Wyvern Helm for Penta Thrust? As is, I use O hat (which is included in that acc count). As a MNK main, I'm used to stressing Attack and Acc in WS. DRG is my first 2-hander, so I'm not sure how far I should be pushing the STR angle on WS.

    On the same note; would AJ be worth using over SH/Pbody/Acc+10 body piece for WS? I figure it would be for TP, but Penta Thrust is a 5-hit WS. Note: I know Nbody is better than both of these options for this, but Kirin doesn't like dropping my toys. This is just what I have readily available.

    Edit: This is for a Merit situation, eating Meat
    Dragoon just plain doesn't NEED much accuracy in a merit situation. Unless you're meleeing a higher level NM (I hesitate to say HNM, but you know what I mean), inherent accuracy and some incidental pieces will be all you need. Your acc rings (or rajas/ulth), pcc/chiv/love on neck, maybe a swift if you swing that way (i'd rather not lose all that att). Amir<Homam<Aurum feet will also help to one degree or another. Or Ares, again, if you swing that way (here i'd rather wait for homam/aurum).

    For penta, my advice here is to start out with as much att/str/dex as you can get, then slowly work your way back into some accuracy as you find necessary. Acc Bonus II is pretty nice, and the dex:acc formula change helped signifigantly too. If you're WSing in Hasso, you should have no problem. Seigan you might find yourself missing a hit or two here and there, and this is where you might want to WS in ohat instead of wyvern helm. You should definitely keep AJ on during Penta, though.

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    I'm lving up WHM (Elvaan), and was wondering if I should use BQ Ring/Serket for Idle, or Ether/Serket? MP merits/A+ gear if you're wondering, and I'm only 49 atm (thinking in advance).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AkashiXI View Post
    I'm lving up WHM (Elvaan), and was wondering if I should use BQ Ring/Serket for Idle, or Ether/Serket? MP merits/A+ gear if you're wondering, and I'm only 49 atm (thinking in advance).
    Most of the time you are idling, you won't be at max mp so I wouldn't see the point in idling in max mp rings, since its only really dropping your hp at that point.

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    Thanks, that's what I figured too .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imitarate View Post
    Dragoon just plain doesn't NEED much accuracy in a merit situation. Unless you're meleeing a higher level NM (I hesitate to say HNM, but you know what I mean), inherent accuracy and some incidental pieces will be all you need. Your acc rings (or rajas/ulth), pcc/chiv/love on neck, maybe a swift if you swing that way (i'd rather not lose all that att). Amir<Homam<Aurum feet will also help to one degree or another. Or Ares, again, if you swing that way (here i'd rather wait for homam/aurum).

    For penta, my advice here is to start out with as much att/str/dex as you can get, then slowly work your way back into some accuracy as you find necessary. Acc Bonus II is pretty nice, and the dex:acc formula change helped signifigantly too. If you're WSing in Hasso, you should have no problem. Seigan you might find yourself missing a hit or two here and there, and this is where you might want to WS in ohat instead of wyvern helm. You should definitely keep AJ on during Penta, though.
    I disagree with this poster on a lot of things.

    First off, to the poster that asked, you are -barely- almost at enough accuracy right now. For birds. For Mamool, you are short accuracy (unless you get a Madrigal).

    Post the rest of your gear though - really, you should be looking to drop accuracy for STR + DEX gains. Ohat you probably shouldn't replace, -10 acc, +5 STR is a -TERRIBLE- trade off. If you post all your WS gear, we can help more, but yea, Wyvern Helm is a pretty poor choice (unless your accuracy #s are with str gear on).

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    I like to idle in -HP on BLM so that I don't have to put on -HP later to force latent activation. It also means that I lose more CE from taking damage. I don't idle in as much -HP on WHM, because I put on more +HP for Medicine Ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AkashiXI View Post
    I'm lving up WHM (Elvaan), and was wondering if I should use BQ Ring/Serket for Idle, or Ether/Serket? MP merits/A+ gear if you're wondering, and I'm only 49 atm (thinking in advance).
    I personally idle BQ/Serket, but that's cause I'm taru. Unless I'm going for my max mp build or casting cure V, that's what I'm wearing.

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    which apocalypse nigh earring should i choose? It's between Ethereal and Magnetic. I have 75 PUP, RDM, SCH, BLU, PLD
    most of the time i play red mage, however i am in the process of trying to gear up pld more. Any input?

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    Ethereal would make sense for PLD, BLU solo, and as a general DD earring for any job.

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