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  1. #3221
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    I like free alternatives that are easy to get and better than their multi-mil counterparts. Sure they look gimp / stupid as hell but wtfever.

    Thanks for saving me some money <3

  2. #3222
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    Goliard Cuffs v. Genie Gages for SCH resist nuking setup...

    The other pieces of the setup include
    Elemental grip (Macc+2)
    Argute Mortarboard (Elemental+8)
    Elemental Torque (Elemental+7)
    Scholar's Gown (Elemental+15)
    Omega Ring (Macc+3)
    Goliard Clogs (Macc+2)

    totals:
    Elemental Skill 256 (Dark Arts) + above = 285
    INT 79+34 = 113
    MAB = 5
    MAcc +7

    with Aquilo's
    Elemental Skill = 295
    INT 79+39 = 118
    MAB = 5
    MAcc +7

    with Aquilo's + Goliard Cuffs
    Elemental Skill = 295
    INT 79+39 = 118
    MAB = 9
    MAcc +11

    with Aquilo's + Genie Gages
    Elemental Skill = 303
    INT 79+39 = 118
    MAB = 9
    MAcc +7

    Not close at all really to 320/120 But then again I haven't yet merited Elemental Magic Skill.

  3. #3223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illuminatus View Post
    Goliard Cuffs v. Genie Gages for SCH resist nuking setup...

    Not close at all really to 320/120 But then again I haven't yet merited Elemental Magic Skill.
    Not much point worrying about it until you have at least 6 elemental skill merits to be honest. You're fine as you are for Mt Z. Eventually I'd prolly go for the gages.

  4. #3224
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    Yeah.. I need to focus on elemental magic skill merits soon.


    As for a "full damage" setup, there are certain pieces I'm undecided on.. namely Goliard v Yigit. I'm like 3k AP from both of those Yigit pieces but I'm running out of AP for Salvage, so I'm trying to prioritize.

    Main: HQ Staff
    Sub: Bugard strap +1
    Head: Scholar's mortarboard +1
    Neck: Enlightened chain (--> Prudence Torque) [or Elemental torque?]
    Ear 1: Phantom earring (--> Novio Earring)
    Ear 2: Moldavite earring
    Body: Errant houppelande (--> Mahatma)
    Hands: Goliard cuffs (--> Yigit[?])
    Ring 1: Snow ring
    Ring 2: Snow ring
    Back: Prism cape
    Waist: Penitent's rope (--> Argute belt)
    Legs: Mahatma slops
    Feet: Goliard clogs (--> Yigit[?])

  5. #3225
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illuminatus View Post
    Yeah.. I need to focus on elemental magic skill merits soon.


    As for a "full damage" setup, there are certain pieces I'm undecided on.. namely Goliard v Yigit. I'm like 3k AP from both of those Yigit pieces but I'm running out of AP for Salvage, so I'm trying to prioritize.

    Main: HQ Staff
    Sub: Bugard strap +1
    Head: Scholar's mortarboard +1
    Neck: Enlightened chain (--> Prudence Torque) [or Elemental torque?]
    Ear 1: Phantom earring (--> Novio Earring)
    Ear 2: Moldavite earring
    Body: Errant houppelande (--> Mahatma)
    Hands: Goliard cuffs (--> Yigit[?])
    Ring 1: Snow ring
    Ring 2: Snow ring
    Back: Prism cape
    Waist: Penitent's rope (--> Argute belt)
    Legs: Mahatma slops
    Feet: Goliard clogs (--> Yigit[?])

    Without elemental magic merits and being a sch, I'd go with elemental skill and magic accuracy whenever available (torque, goliard).

  6. #3226
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    Well you know the basic 320/120 rule so I would go with Genie if I were you. In merit pty, you prolly can use goliard with ice spells and get extra INT though. For other slots same deal pretty much. If you can afford Novio, you should wear novio instead of any earring. Nothing can beat 7 MAB in one slot.

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    For drk what scythes should I use between Vassagos and Tredecim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valyana View Post
    1 Haste vs 3 DEX 5 Acc

    5 acc will beat 1 Haste all by itself except in extreme haste or capped acc situations, and then there's the 2-3 acc from DEX; let's say 2.

    91.5% to 95% acc is a 3.8% improvement.
    57% to 58% haste is a 2.4% improvement.

    57% Haste is 5% Turban, 4% Dusk Gloves +1, 6% Speed Belt, 5% Haidate, 2% Aurum, 20% Marches, 15% Haste.

    If you add Hasso, 67% to 68% Haste is a 3.125% improvement.
    With Hasso and magic cap, 75.75% to 76.75% is a 4.3% improvement.
    With Hasso and magic cap, but only NQ Dusk Gloves and Swift Belt, 72.75% to 73.75% is a 3.8% improvement...same as the acc.

    I'd say Dusk+1 > Unicorn NQ, so...
    Wow I was going to ask about this today actually. Now I don't have to, and glad I don't have to worry about making dusk feet +1 also.

    Thanks.

  9. #3229
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    Quote Originally Posted by kooja View Post
    For drk what scythes should I use between Vassagos and Tredecim?
    You can use the Moliones set when you hit 70 if you want, otherwise I think its accepted that you can just go Vassago's -> Tred if you want. You have a few options at 73, but youd only use them for the one level.

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    well thats pretty simple, thanks lol

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    Hachiryu Sune-ate vs Skadi's Jambeaux vs Scout's Socks/Scout's Socks+1 for Sidewinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fcube View Post
    Hachiryu Sune-ate vs Skadi's Jambeaux vs Scout's Socks/Scout's Socks+1 for Sidewinder.
    It's situation. Scout sock when you don't need r acc. Hard/high evasion mobs, use skadi.

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    I think Hachi/Skadi should be nearly identical, both 2-3 base D and 5 Racc, but I'm not sure exactly how 2-3 base D stacks up vs. 10 Ratk for pure damage, obviously depends on how high your RAtk is.

  14. #3234
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    I think Hachi/Skadi should be nearly identical, both 2-3 base D and 5 Racc, but I'm not sure exactly how 2-3 base D stacks up vs. 10 Ratk for pure damage, obviously depends on how high your RAtk is.
    Yeah, I wanted to confirm the maths if both hachi/skadi would add 2-3 base D here. Furthermore, if Racc is not a problem, would hachi/skadi be better than scout's or vice versa if my rng's Ratk is above average. I know "above average" is very subjective and inaccurate but for this discussion, it would need to start from some value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kooja View Post
    For drk what scythes should I use between Vassagos and Tredecim?
    V-Scythe => Darksteel Scythe => Vendetta => Moliones' => Orihalcum if you feel like it => Tredecim Scythe if you want the progression pretty much.

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    Any good use of Enkidu body if I already have Homam, Morrigan, Antares and DH+1 ?
    (for BLU or THF or DNC)

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    Fighter's Calligae VS Unicorn Leggings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNAval View Post
    Fighter's Calligae VS Unicorn Leggings?
    Unicorn for sure.

  19. #3239
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    Quote Originally Posted by eva00r View Post
    Any good use of Enkidu body if I already have Homam, Morrigan, Antares and DH+1 ?
    (for BLU or THF or DNC)
    I would think enkidu beats out antares for dnc but would lose to Relic, and would be good for Vorpal Blade on blu, or Dancing edge on thf I would think.

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    Which upgrade should I make for my BRD first, Wind Torque or Terra's Staff for elegy? Already have an Apollo's from my BST charm gear.

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