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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xerlic
    This is kinda late being my WAR is 72 and I'm only 1 level off from Nhands, but....

    Spiked Finger Gauntlets vs. Taru RSE2 Hands for Rampage/RR/Vorpal?

    Also, opinions on Dusk Feet ( NQ ) vs. Unicorn Leggings.
    Dusk vs Unicorn is really personal preference. That being said, dusk ledelsens are much better than unicorn and everybody who uses unicorn is horrible and should die.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xerlic
    This is kinda late being my WAR is 72 and I'm only 1 level off from Nhands, but....

    Spiked Finger Gauntlets vs. Taru RSE2 Hands for Rampage/RR/Vorpal?

    Also, opinions on Dusk Feet ( NQ ) vs. Unicorn Leggings.
    6STR vs 12 Attack.

    Rampage or Vorpal Blade;

    6STR vs 9Attack (~3Attack from STR) => I'd use Taru RSE.

    Raging Rush;
    6STR vs 8Attack (~4Attack from STR) => I'd use Taru RSE.

    So yeah, I'd use the taru RSE hands over SFG on all of those.

    And yeah, Dusk vs Unicorn is just personal preference (also Unicorn costs more)~

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apessius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apessius
    Chasuble +1 or RDM af1 body for landing debuffs on HNMs?
    AF, no contest unless you're talking about Stun or something.
    Yeah, I actually meant dark based spells moreso: Drain/aspir/stun.. of course since those are dark skill based, the chasuble wins w/magic acc.. I just don't remember the equation of magic acc:skill. If its 3skill = 1 magic acc, then I can see the chasuble +1 winning out on some things.

    Excuse my apparent lack of foresight before asking the question, geez. Its why I put it in this forum under this topic.
    Why would you even think of using af1 body for drain/aspir/stun? For any enfeeble af1 body >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chausable (regardless of nq or hq). Until it is proven incorrect, I will stick with the standard 2 skill ~ 1 acc formula. Unfortunately it is really hard / time consuming to prove for enfeebles.

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    Re: Whats better?

    COR TP Set, having a tough time deciding:

    Turban vs. Cobra Unit Cap

    Cobra cap would shave a Joy swing off for full TP after WS.
    I'd definitely go with Turban over Cobra Cap, especially if you're using other Haste gear or are receiving March or Haste spell.

    Turning your 14-hit Joytoy build into a 13-hit build (after WS) is nice, but don't forget that at least a certain percentage of the time, you're going to be 1 hit away from hitting 100% TP and will double-attack with Joyeuse, overshooting 100% TP and essentially defeating the entire purpose of using it in the first place. I'd definitely take the delay reduction + additional damage from a constant 5% Haste over the equivalent of a 7.1% reduction in the time it takes to reach 100% via Store TP that may or may not happen depending on when your Joyeuse double-attacks.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkworkz
    Demon helm wont help with buffs if your 75. if your skills are capped, the only way you can raise your minuet is with merits.
    This is not correct. You need a total of +12 wind/singing (any combination of the two) to cap Valor Minuet IV at 75 (with capped skills), aside from Minuet merits. If you have a Wind Torque, that's 5 more skill you need. Demon Helm (even NQ) will finish that if you don't have any other +skill items (though there are a lot of other good ones).

    You can also get slightly better values from Victory March at 75 by adding bunches of +skill. So far, other songs seem to be capped by 75, but I wonder if anyone has extensively tested Blade Madrigal.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Question from a 73 PLD.
    RK pants for DD until when? No Homam pieces yet but working on it. Just making sure nothing slipped my mind.

    Another question for my exp build (which has been full out DD+emnity since I could use the haub).
    +5str +2dex +8atk vs. +2vit +21def +6emnity?
    (Iron Ram shield + RK breeches vs. adaman cuisses + koenig shield)

    Been trying to trim down some situational gear so I have more inventory room, and at like 350-380 base def (I still use sushi so this number doesn't change) +21def seems like a lot. But yeah I know... lol def. Any ideas? Or is Iron Ram shield that good to always have on hand?

    Lastly, would anyone ever use a Sentinels shield (level 50 rare/ex IS point one, +3str +1% haste)? Would it be ideal for macro swaps or whatever when I've got enough homam and haste stacking for PLD/NIN or merits?

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    Re: Whats better?

    I used Sentinels shield up until that 60 one. No complaints here.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanjiyan
    Question from a 73 PLD.
    RK pants for DD until when? No Homam pieces yet but working on it. Just making sure nothing slipped my mind.

    Another question for my exp build (which has been full out DD+emnity since I could use the haub).
    +5str +2dex +8atk vs. +2vit +21def +6emnity?
    (Iron Ram shield + RK breeches vs. adaman cuisses + koenig shield)

    Been trying to trim down some situational gear so I have more inventory room, and at like 350-380 base def (I still use sushi so this number doesn't change) +21def seems like a lot. But yeah I know... lol def. Any ideas? Or is Iron Ram shield that good to always have on hand?

    Lastly, would anyone ever use a Sentinels shield (level 50 rare/ex IS point one, +3str +1% haste)? Would it be ideal for macro swaps or whatever when I've got enough homam and haste stacking for PLD/NIN or merits?
    1) RKB => Dusk Trousers if you can be bothered to spend the cash.
    2) I'd just take the offensive stats, you'll make more hate through damage, things will die faster, exp will be generally better. This is for exp anyway.
    3) I'd keep with Koenig Shield, TP is useful for Spirits Within (hate) or merit abilities like Chivalry.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bakthi
    This is not correct. You need a total of +12 wind/singing (any combination of the two) to cap Valor Minuet IV at 75 (with capped skills), aside from Minuet merits. If you have a Wind Torque, that's 5 more skill you need. Demon Helm (even NQ) will finish that if you don't have any other +skill items (though there are a lot of other good ones).

    You can also get slightly better values from Victory March at 75 by adding bunches of +skill. So far, other songs seem to be capped by 75, but I wonder if anyone has extensively tested Blade Madrigal.
    my bad, been awhile since i levelled bard lol ><

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    Re: Whats better?

    Well if I only need +12 of either wind or singing to cap MinuetIV, then I'm set anyway:
    Wind torque = 7 Wind skill
    Musical Earring = 5 Wind skill
    That puts me at 12 Wind skill, which should be sufficient enough to cap MinuetIV, from what I understand.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aella
    Well if I only need +12 of either wind or singing to cap MinuetIV, then I'm set anyway:
    Wind torque = 7 Wind skill
    Musical Earring = 5 Wind skill
    That puts me at 12 Wind skill, which should be sufficient enough to cap MinuetIV, from what I understand.
    Yes, though the advice about a balance of CHR and +skill for debuffs is still true. I used the crown for a while, then swapped to Demon Helm for a while, then just changed to Walahra Turban since everything landed anyway (though I have 4 merits each in wind + singing). I have generally kept my CHR at around 110, while for the most part piling on as much skill as I can reach, within reason. I do give use Astute Cape instead of Jester's +1, at least while /WHM, but I've never used Minstrel's Coat instead of a 10+ CHR body. I also used AF+1 legs for a long time (now Marduk).

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    Re: Whats better?

    For Raging Rush in Head/Hands/Feet:

    Heca, Heca+1 or Ares?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Hecatomb probably the best choice for all 3 slots.
    35% STR mod and a critical WS so yea.
    The STR and DEX would do the best.
    If you're hurting on acc and getting poor TP returns could swap in Ares's feet.

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    Re: Whats better?

    I'm not an expert, but from looking at the stats on each piece, I'd say Heca head and feet and Ares hands looks like a good combination for Raging Rush.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Wouldn't swap anything for Nhead, Nhands > Nfeet, so I'd prefer to swap the feet for more acc if it was needed, if I was really hurting for Acc I'd swap the waist, but with full merits, and a strong Dex build you should be pushing 40+ Dex, 110 more total, so I'd have to wonder what outside of a Lurker that you're having issues with RR Acc on.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Hands slot for lolmeleeRDM for Vorpal Blade:

    Tarasque Mitts vs. Ogre Gloves

    +10 Attack vs. +6 STR -3 DEX

    Which would be slightly less lol?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Hands slot for lolmeleeRDM for Vorpal Blade:

    Tarasque Mitts vs. Ogre Gloves

    +10 Attack vs. +6 STR -3 DEX

    Which would be slightly less lol?
    I'd probably go with the Tarasque between those two, given that Vorpal is a crit based WS, and -dex is detrimental to that.

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    Re: Whats better?

    6 Hit Build (I use PCC instead of Chiv Chain):

    Brutal + Rajas + Carbonara (allowing for Snipers +1)
    or
    Brutal + Rajas + Ecphoria (allowing for food other then Carbonara)

    Which would be the better alternative?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Imo.. If you need Sushi, then Ecphoria build. If you need Meat, then Carbonara build. Again, don't focus on a 6hit build if you don't have the means to hit the mob.

    Ecphoria
    ACC+4
    Meat or Sushi Possibility

    Carbonara
    ACC+7
    Stuck to ATK+ food

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    Re: Whats better?

    If you need Sushi with Great Axe, I'm wondering what you're fighting, and what you're wearing?

    Askar Body+Barb Zereh's+Spelunker's hat go!

    Haub+Haidate is roughly 25 Acc by itself before factoring in any other slots.


    I've got a What's Better question!

    4 Str vs 15 Vit on a 50% Str 50% Vit mod WS.

    I know 4 Str gives the fStr bonus, 3 Attack, and 2 WS mod, 15 Vit just gives 7.5 WS mod.

    I'm still trying to work out exactly how the WS mod damage bonus works, part of me wants to say it would take 5 or more Str to beat out that much Vit, and I could swear I've seen the bonus of the two scaled out somewhere before.

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