Whats better?

[Thorny]

msn moarly FG

[Cadsuane]

What's better for a Drakesbane swap on the hands?

Drachen +1? (STR/DEX+5)
Hecatomb? (STR+7/DEX+4)
Alkyoneus? (STR+11/DEX-6)
Some other pair of gloves I'm not mentioning?

[Yugl]

What's better for a Drakesbane swap on the hands?

Drachen +1? (STR/DEX+5)
Hecatomb? (STR+7/DEX+4)
Alkyoneus? (STR+11/DEX-6)
Some other pair of gloves I'm not mentioning?

Heca

[Jakson]

Nvm. for some reason I thought heca had -dex. /dumb

[zard1977]

Has anyone really demostrated crit tiers for 2-handers?

I remembered Rukenshin posted a parse which showed that 2 handers' critical rate to be much lower compared to one-handers with similar dex.

[Shinryuu]

I'll test it next time I go merit, if I buy a DEX+4 ring and equip a spike necklace I have 118 DEX in TP set with WAR/NIN. I need one more DEX for /SAM (I think). For massive sample size (and good damage) I'll use fortitude axe.

[Havok]

I've done gondo-shizunori+claymore crip+merits, with 118 dex on WAR, and gotten a 33/34% crit rate on colibri, that would be the expected number for 1handed also correct?

[Shinryuu]

Yes, definitely. Got a parse from that?

But why the claymore grip and not a pole grip!

[Tubbers]

2% haste vs. 10% crit depends on your haste, your PDIF, etc. Aren't there other slots you can sacrifice? A DEX+5 ring next to a rajas could be an option, a Cuchulain's mantle doesn't hurt (especially if you're not exactly at ACC cap w/o aggressor), and do you have aurum sabatons? 2% haste is quite nice in merits since you're getting marches, haste and hasso. But putting it like that, the 10% crit probably wins.

Base Gear: http://www.ffxiah.com/members/?q=item_sets&set_id=25431

input /equip ring1 "Rajas Ring";
input /equip legs "Byakko's Haidate";
input /equip waist "Swift Belt";
input /equip back "Amemet Mantle +1";
input /equip hands "Dusk Gloves";
input /equip neck "Peacock Charm";
input /equip ammo "Fire Bomblet";
input /equip head "Walahra Turban";
input /equip body "Adaman Hauberk";
input /equip sub "Pole Grip";
input /equip main "Perdu Voulge";
input /equip ring2 "Ecphoria Ring";
input /equip feet "Aurum Sabatons";
input /equip ear1 "Assault Earring";
input /equip ear2 "Brutal Earring";

Swaps I was planning on making:
Peacock Charm>Ancient Torque
Assault Earring>Pixie Earring
Dusk Gloves>Askar Hands
Walahra Turban>Askar Zuchetto

I could do Ecphoria>Thunder instead of the hands I suppose, but I like having a true 6-hit. Although I guess I could just swap it in if I need it after WS.

[Shinryuu]

I don't like true 6-hit builds on jobs with multihit WSs because the only thing that prevents you from getting TP in 6 hits is feather tickle, in which case it's very likely you'll get hit by the mob (especially with your gear, I have similar gear but no purple body ;; ) making a true 6-hit moot if you add the 2 TP from being hit. It all depends though, if you like to Seigan a lot you might not get hit after feather tickle plus you'll get less out of haste, making ecphoria + askar better. If you hasso a lot, consider thunder ring and dusk hands.

[Yugl]

I don't like true 6-hit builds on jobs with multihit WSs because the only thing that prevents you from getting TP in 6 hits is feather tickle, in which case it's very likely you'll get hit by the mob (especially with your gear, I have similar gear but no purple body ;; ) making a true 6-hit moot if you add the 2 TP from being hit. It all depends though, if you like to Seigan a lot you might not get hit after feather tickle plus you'll get less out of haste, making ecphoria + askar better. If you hasso a lot, consider thunder ring and dusk hands.

1 - Feather Tickle
2 - Complete misses (Random Flash or Perfect Dodge)
3 - Mob moves out of range
4 - Cases where you have to revert back to one hit WS
5 - Equip removal abilities
6 - Other TP removal moves such as the Fomor AoE ability

I think that enough warrants a 6-hit build. I am aware that you could bring a separate set for case 4, but if we're talking about an overall set instead of purely merits, it's important to recognize that in the gear set up.

[Havok]

Yes, definitely. Got a parse from that?

But why the claymore grip and not a pole grip!

No parse it was quite a while ago. Claymore was just messing around to see how high i could push crits, i dont even own one anymore lol. The DEX gear needed to do this as an elvaan can be kind of outrageous though sadly =/

gondo/claymore/bomblet
askar head/love torque/brutal/pixie
adaberk/dusk/rajas/thunder
forager/swift/haidate/aurum

leaves you still needing 3 dex from roast pipira...its easier if you can get askar/hachiryu hands (i still have neither)

[FailureMidgard]

I don't like true 6-hit builds on jobs with multihit WSs because the only thing that prevents you from getting TP in 6 hits is feather tickle, in which case it's very likely you'll get hit by the mob (especially with your gear, I have similar gear but no purple body ;; ) making a true 6-hit moot if you add the 2 TP from being hit. It all depends though, if you like to Seigan a lot you might not get hit after feather tickle plus you'll get less out of haste, making ecphoria + askar better. If you hasso a lot, consider thunder ring and dusk hands.

I'm the exact opposite of you, /shrug. As a polearm sam, I hate not having a true 5-hit so much, it's the bane of my existence when I have a polearm out.

[Thorny]

I don't like true 6-hit builds on jobs with multihit WSs because the only thing that prevents you from getting TP in 6 hits is feather tickle, in which case it's very likely you'll get hit by the mob (especially with your gear, I have similar gear but no Blue body ;; ) making a true 6-hit moot if you add the 2 TP from being hit. It all depends though, if you like to Seigan a lot you might not get hit after feather tickle plus you'll get less out of haste, making ecphoria + askar better. If you hasso a lot, consider thunder ring and dusk hands.

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[Athas]

Purple.

Close topic.

[Cream Soda]

BLUE

[Araelus]

hex triplet: 2D293E
Hue: 251°
Saturation: 34%
Brightness: 24%
45 Red
41 Green
62 Blue
Luminosity: 18
a: 6
b: -13
80% Cyan
79% Magenta
48% Yellow
52% Key (black)

ARGUMENT OVER

[Cream Soda]

hex triplet: 2D293E

62 Blue


ARGUMENT OVER

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[Gippo]

aurum legs vs. black cuisses. if you only had these 2 pieces for drk, which would you tp in and which would you ws in. thanks

[Maaglin]

aurum legs vs. black cuisses. if you only had these 2 pieces for drk, which would you tp in and which would you ws in. thanks

If those were your only 2 choices, for TP, it's Aurum no question.

For WS, depends on how much other accuracy your guillotine macro has.