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    I'm sitting at WAR 65 now, and I've been considering leveling it again. Now my question is simple, since I don't seem to have any luck with drops, what would be my best option instead of kitty pants when I reach that level, at least until I can get my hands on them?

    I do have AFv2 (lawl) and Aurum legs, if those are any good. Or is there an AHable option I should look at? Basically, what do you wear on WAR if you don't have Byakko's?

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    Ares Flanchard / Aurum Cuisses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aksannyi View Post
    I'm sitting at WAR 65 now, and I've been considering leveling it again. Now my question is simple, since I don't seem to have any luck with drops, what would be my best option instead of kitty pants when I reach that level, at least until I can get my hands on them?

    I do have AFv2 (lawl) and Aurum legs, if those are any good. Or is there an AHable option I should look at? Basically, what do you wear on WAR if you don't have Byakko's?
    Use Barone pants at 70, and Aurum at 72+ until you get Haidate. The gains from 7acc will most likely out weigh the loss of attack.

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    Was there ever a definitive answer to which is better, Kaiser or Terror shield? It's my understanding that Kaiser's def will help you take less damage when blocking and Terror's HP will lower the rate of enmity loss(when getting hit or overall?). If those are correct it's pretty much a wash isn't it? I'd REALLY like to know since there's a Kaiser for sale now and they don't show up often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secksi View Post
    Was there ever a definitive answer to which is better, Kaiser or Terror shield? It's my understanding that Kaiser's def will help you take less damage when blocking and Terror's HP will lower the rate of enmity loss(when getting hit or overall?). If those are correct it's pretty much a wash isn't it? I'd REALLY like to know since there's a Kaiser for sale now and they don't show up often.

    Inb4Max, I don't give a shit about campaign.
    The HP+ only changes CE lost when damage is dealt to you. Kanican - Enmity Table (Damage Taken) indicates that as max HP rises, the effect of additional HP+ decreases in terms of reducing CE loss.

    Terror's Enmity +4 will increase overall Enmity gain by 4%, but Kaiser has this exact same stat.

    I would go with the Kaiser Shield - more DEF, more VIT, other things are negligible. Both shields should have the same block rate, since both are size 3, and as you said, Kaiser should reduce damage taken by 1.5% more than the Terror Shield.

    (Terror Shield for Campaign YEAAAAH.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aksannyi View Post
    I'm sitting at WAR 65 now, and I've been considering leveling it again. Now my question is simple, since I don't seem to have any luck with drops, what would be my best option instead of kitty pants when I reach that level, at least until I can get my hands on them?

    I do have AFv2 (lawl) and Aurum legs, if those are any good. Or is there an AHable option I should look at? Basically, what do you wear on WAR if you don't have Byakko's?
    Askar Dirs are decent too, good chunk of acc, that's what I'm looking at to try and get to hold over for TP/Raging Rush until we can get back to Sky as I don't have Aurum myself.

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    Aside from Campaign, I also dig the look of Terror shield in a crowd of Koenigs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    Aside from Campaign, I also dig the look of Terror shield in a crowd of Koenigs.
    Unless your Koenig is secretly a unique signed snowflake!

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    Followup to the aurum vs black cuisses on ws.

    Using:

    "Haubergeon +1";
    input /equip head "Wyvern Helm";
    input /equip ear1 "Brutal Earring";
    input /equip ring1 "Rajas Ring";
    input /equip main "Perdu Sickle";
    input /equip feet "Hct. Leggings";
    input /equip back "Forager's Mantle";
    input /equip ammo "Bomb Core";
    input /equip ammo "Fire Bomblet";
    input /equip sub "Pole Grip";
    input /equip hands "Chs. Gauntlets +1";
    input /equip neck "Snow Gorget";

    Would the +7 acc outweigh the out the -18 atk, assuming it allows me to go with flame ring, triumph earring and warwolf for the extra str? Or would I still need assualt earring/ulthalam's/potent to stack acc?

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    Using both fire bomblet and bomb core is pretty cool and unique.

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    If you use Optical Hat over Wyvern Helm there and change Ulthalam's to a STR ring, it would be a better combination than what you're currently using.

    As for Aurum vs Black... it's Guillotine so shit's situational, but steer away from using Warwolf Belt in particular... it's a very poor offensive tradeoff for the deficit of accuracy. I'd try to incorporate Black Cuisses just because they're so powerful if I at all could though.

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    You basically want to try to hit around 400 acc on your guillotine macro before you start adding in +str/atk gear.

    o.hat is a better choice than wyvern helm. I would only consider not using o.hat when you get n.head. And then, it's still situational based on eva of mob.

    potent is sex for guillo, use it over warwolf.

    I would only use a str ring if it was raja's; otherwise 2x acc rings or raja's/acc ring.

    Would also leave assualt/brutal on ears.

    And just for clarification, use fire bomblet over bomb core full time.

    With that setup you should be able to use black legs np.

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    Ace's Helm is also a very good substitute for Optical Hat!

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    Currently using Boreas Cesti should I switch to Impact knuckles/Mythrill +1? Have Retaliators waiting for me @ 50

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchDizzle View Post
    LvL 33mnk

    Currently using Boreas Cesti should I switch to Impact knuckles/Mythrill +1? Have Retaliators waiting for me @ 50
    I really liked Boreas, definitely preferred them over Impact Knuckles. I can't comment on the Mythril +1s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aksannyi View Post
    haidate alternative
    If you have access to the ashu talif, these are pretty good. You'll get some money along the way, if you end up farming it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryskar View Post
    I really liked Boreas, definitely preferred them over Impact Knuckles. I can't comment on the Mythril +1s.
    Awesome, thanks!

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    Algol < Naglering < Ragnarok as far as gswords go for DRK?

    Edit: messed up my greater-than and less-than signs =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farseer View Post
    Algol > Naglering > Ragnarok as far as gswords go for DRK?
    uh, other way around, ragnarok is best but that doesnt mean its a good relic

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    yea other way around, i read it 4 times before hitting post and still failed =/

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