Whats better?

[Mugekuge]

Imo.. If you need Sushi, then Ecphoria build. If you need Meat, then Carbonara build. Again, don't focus on a 6hit build if you don't have the means to hit the mob.

Ecphoria
ACC+4
Meat or Sushi Possibility

Carbonara
ACC+7
Stuck to ATK+ food

If you are at colibri camp , imo brutal+rajas+ecphoria is good even if you are spamming RR, since sometimes feather tickle will screw your 6hit build.

For all merit zones you dont need sushi, if you have full merits and good gear on war. I would say without full merits on great axe, you could eat meat too.

Besides you could just eat a Hedgehog Pie, if you want a little more acc.

[Khajit]

Skadi hands vs thf af+1 hands during TAWS?
on one hand af+1 gives me essentially +15 agi at minimum but the damage bonus only applies to the first hit so would the str and atk outweigh the af gloves during that?
Skadi hands vs hect gloves for WS while not stacked with SA or TA.
and since some thf decided that hect gloves are inferior to skadi hands in all/most situations would anyone care to prove or disprove this? I personally think this sounds well.. stupid but it's always good to have facts to backup your claims.

[Noob]

Aqua Gorget or Fortitude Torque for RR?

Aqua Gorget or Fortitude Torque for SC?

[Max™]

Gorget for SC, Torque for RR is common understanding.

[Raen Ryong]

I've got a What's Better question!

4 Str vs 15 Vit on a 50% Str 50% Vit mod WS.

I know 4 Str gives the fStr bonus, 3 Attack, and 2 WS mod, 15 Vit just gives 7.5 WS mod.

I'm still trying to work out exactly how the WS mod damage bonus works, part of me wants to say it would take 5 or more Str to beat out that much Vit, and I could swear I've seen the bonus of the two scaled out somewhere before.

Actually, WS mods work slightly differently; 100 STR on a 50% WS mod will not give you 50 "WS mod damage" unless you are level 1. There is a quantity commonly referred to as "Alpha" which you multiply the mod against; this "Alpha" quantity begins at 1.00 at level 1 and decreases to 0.83 at level 75, with values inbetween. It is important to note that the numbers are floor'd at regular intervals, so you will not get decimals.

100 STR on a 50% WS mod at level 75 will give you: (100 * 0.5) * 0.83 = ~41 damage.

Therefore, 15 Vit gives you (15 * 0.5) * 0.83 = ~5 damage, theoretically. [Because 7.5 will be floor'd to 7 before being multiplied by alpha]
4 STR will raise your DMG by 1, give you 3 attack, and ~1 damage on top of that.

So you are looking at ~2 damage + 3Attack vs ~5 damage.

Note that damages here mean damage before being multiplied by fTP or pDIF; in reality they could be higher or lower than this.

Generally speaking, I would expect the ~5 damage to produce higher damage in most situations.

Tl;dr: I'd use the 15VIT.

In reality, the VIT and/or the STR may add more than examined here in terms of WSC due to how they are added. The calculations here are pretending that you have 0STR/0VIT before adding them. Regardless, I would expect the VIT to be better.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/WSC <== Further reading on WSC (mods) etc.

[Ferien]

Askar or Turban for WAR TP? Askar is ugly as sin but I like the stats better.

Possible issues

Normal TP Gear:
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...no/ffxi/TP.png
Neck is Chiv, Waist is Swift. I get Refresh in Salvage for the Chopper (<3 my RDM), else it's 2/tick from Sanction and Ares.

I spend most of my time in Salvage. XP gear is usually Haub instead of Ares, but I constantly fuck with gear/food depending on the parse.

[ringthree]

Askar or Turban for WAR TP? Askar is ugly as sin but I like the stats better.

Possible issues

Normal TP Gear:
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...no/ffxi/TP.png
Neck is Chiv, Waist is Swift. I get Refresh in Salvage for the Chopper (<3 my RDM), else it's 2/tick from Sanction and Ares.

I spend most of my time in Salvage. XP gear is usually Haub instead of Ares, but I constantly fuck with gear/food depending on the parse.

I mean Askar would be best, but even better would be getting a Haidate. And I am not being a jerk here, but the difference between those two items is small. The difference between Haidate and WAR AF2 legs is much greater.

[Ferien]

Yea, I'm well aware. Problem is between school, work, and time allotted to other things in game, there's no time for Sky. Trust me, if it were a viable option right now, I'd have them.

[Max™]

Tl;dr: I'd use the 15VIT.

In reality, the VIT and/or the STR may add more than examined here in terms of WSC due to how they are added. The calculations here are pretending that you have 0STR/0VIT before adding them. Regardless, I would expect the VIT to be better.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/WSC <== Further reading on WSC (mods) etc.

KK, and ty.

Got about 132 Str and 69 Vit in the rest of the gear before factoring in the head, but now that I have an understanding of the alpha bit (Ghibli didn't make it clear enough where that was factored in) I can see it a bit better, and yeah 74 Vit does seem like it will pack more oomph than 136 Str.

[Raen Ryong]

I assume you mean 84 VIT, but yeah; if we take those values;

WSC = STR_50% and VIT_50% with a level 75 character below.

WSC using (STR132, VIT69) = 83
WSC using (STR136, VIT69) = 84, + 1 damage comparatively from fSTR (if not capped already, that STR is very high)
WSC using (STR132, VIT84) = 89

So basically you have;

Using 4STR gives (84 + (fstr +1 [if not capped]) + D) * pdif [where pdif may or may not be slightly higher] * fTP
Using 15VIT gives (89 + fstr + D) * pdif * fTP

Where D is DMG on the weapon.

I would widely expect the 15VIT to give better results.

[Max™]

Yeah, my Str build is wtf ridiculous, but I did the math and I'd only be capped with a Dmg 88 weapon on like, low low low end Greater Coli's, which I'd be using my mixed Str/Dex for Raging Rush.

Steel Cyclone though I've been a Str whore, so when I got Uni cap for fashion I figured I'd test it out... makes me mad though because looking at that, I would have done more on my recent record high Steel against Kirin. T.T

[Maxxthepenguin]

Ridill or Bravura?

[Callisto]

Just curious...is Molione's set crap? (For normal use, not BWSE zerging)

It seems like the Scythe has relatively decent base damage, and the ring is effectively a Ruby and a Woodsman combined, and the head/legs slots would be freed up for Souleater WS' to put harder hitting gear in those slots...or is it just total crap compared to other setups?

[Turambar]

Just curious...is Molione's set crap? (For normal use, not BWSE zerging)

It seems like the Scythe has relatively decent base damage, and the ring is effectively a Ruby and a Woodsman combined, and the head/legs slots would be freed up for Souleater WS' to put harder hitting gear in those slots...or is it just total crap compared to other setups?

Well look at it like this: it's the highest DPS scythe other than Apocalypse, paired with the equivalent of a Sniper/Woodsman with +7 STR and enhanced Souleater. I don't see how that could ever be considered "crap".

[Raen Ryong]

Moliones is a very good scythe combination, though I personally prefer my Perdu.

[Callisto]

Just curious...is Molione's set crap? (For normal use, not BWSE zerging)

It seems like the Scythe has relatively decent base damage, and the ring is effectively a Ruby and a Woodsman combined, and the head/legs slots would be freed up for Souleater WS' to put harder hitting gear in those slots...or is it just total crap compared to other setups?

Well look at it like this: it's the highest DPS scythe other than Apocalypse, paired with the equivalent of a Sniper/Woodsman with +7 STR and enhanced Souleater. I don't see how that could ever be considered "crap".

That's exactly what I thought, but almost every DRK I know has said something along the lines of:

Moliones is a very good scythe combination, though I personally prefer my Perdu.

I'm not a DRK at all, so I was just curious as to if there was something I was missing about it that made DRKs prefer the other Scythe options.

[Raen Ryong]

To be honest, a lot of it is the cost of the new set and secondly just the resilience to change unless something is WTFAMAZING.

I like my Perdu because of the atk/acc bonuses, and if you were to compare Moliones and Perdu side by side, you could replace the 5acc for more STR than the Moliones offers. Both are situational though; I accept in situations in which you have to store TP a lot, Moliones will win. No scythe is the best 100% of the time except Apocalypse.

[Max™]

Ridill or Bravura?

>.>

2h Buff+Meta after effect making riding Hasso even less of an MP sink+the option of Crit TP WS with base 99 Dmg+obtainable 6 hit Build...

People outdo decked Ridill's when parsing against themselves by swapping to Perdu and such, and Perdu is a piece of shit next to a Bravura... so I dunno, what do you think?

[Clash Perez]

Currently THF69. Harpe/Sirocco until 72, then Blau/Sirocco? Or should I trade 3 base damage for 10 attack and a very slight delay reduction, and go for Behemoth Knife +1 when I hit 70?

Also, should I switch to Tatami as soon as I can use it? Does the STR+5 trump the ATT+12 on WS? I can't imagine it being better for TPing.

[Kiyuan98]

Few questions...

1. Which is better between the two for WAR WS (2-axe setup). Hecatomb Body or Kirin's Osode?

2. Which is better between the two for WAR WS (2-axe setup). Peacock Charm or Chiv Chain?

3. Which is better between the two for WAR TP (G-Axe). Peacock Charm or Fortitude Torque.

4. I use Forager's Mantle for SAM/MNK, etc. Do I really need to buy a Cerb mantle? (I only use WAR for merit.)

5. I've always used Alky's for WS on SAM. Is there anything better to use these days for WS? (Other than Hachiman Kote +1)

6. Between the two, which is better for WAR EXP. Byakko's Axe, or Martial Bhuj.

7. Which G-Axe WS is best for EXP (Birds). Raging Rush or Steel Cyclone? Also is Steel Cyclone still any good? lol I noticed noone never uses it in EXP.

8. Which helm is best for WS on SAM. Wyvern Helm +1, Shura (NQ), or Ace's Helm. (I use Wyvern Helm +1) mainly, but just wondering for any feelers on this..

9. Do Sprinter's shoes work outside of WOTG areas?

10. Which body piece is best for WAR between these two (G-Axe setup) for TPing. Osode, or Haub +1?

11. What two rings are best for WAR WS, I'm using Triumph Ring + Rajas right now for WS.

Thanks