Whats better?

[Shinryuu]

The haste is a 7% increase in damage when you have hasso, marches and haste. The base damage is a 8.6% increase if you have +5 fSTR. Will be less in WS, too. The hitrate may or may not apply but the attack bonus also gives a few % increase.

Rune chopper build is better when you're hasso'ing (and are getting marches and haste, which you should).

[Meowwie]

I'm not a FFXI-numbers specialist, but Nuevo Coselete w/ ACC+10 and DW+3 augments, or Hauby +1?

I'm a ridill war with capped axe/sword/aggressor merits and Suppa earring. I have hauby +1, just curious about the loss of 12 attack and 2 acc compared to DW+3.

Thanks : )

[Redshift]

Difference in haste is only ~1.5%, but Unicorn+1 for feet would be better (with an even smaller difference in haste now). I'd put my money on Perdu since the haste is so close. The benefit to using Rune Chopper is if you don't have all those lovely HQs and can get refresh.

[Thorny]

I'm not a FFXI-numbers specialist, but Nuevo Coselete w/ ACC+10 and DW+3 augments, or Hauby +1?

I'm a ridill war with capped axe/sword/aggressor merits and Suppa earring. I have hauby +1, just curious about the loss of 12 attack and 2 acc compared to DW+3.

Thanks : )

Assuming 1.5 pdif ~400 def mob you're losing 12 attack(or .03 pdif) .03 / 1.5 = 2% increase in dmg from tp

2 acc = 1% hitrate, assuming 90% acc it's 1/90 or 1.1% increase in dmg from tp and ws

3 DW with 80 DW is a 3/80 increase in swings, resulting in 3.75% dmg from tp(superior) and varying difference to #/WS(need to know your mainhand) As your attack and acc get lower the hauby+1 gradually becomes superior.

[TheTaru]

Mirke Waldecors(with attack+10 accuracy+10) or Shura Togi for Monk on merit-level mobs?

[Meowwie]

Assuming 1.5 pdif ~400 def mob you're losing 12 attack(or .03 pdif) .03 / 1.5 = 2% increase in dmg from tp

2 acc = 1% hitrate, assuming 90% acc it's 1/90 or 1.1% increase in dmg from tp and ws

3 DW with 80 DW is a 3/80 increase in swings, resulting in 3.75% dmg from tp(superior) and varying difference to #/WS(need to know your mainhand) As your attack and acc get lower the hauby+1 gradually becomes superior.

Thanks Thorny!

This is my TP setup atm:
http://f.imagehost.org/0613/war-gear.jpg

Rings are toreador's, belt is swift, and choochootrain cape will replace forager's mantle (when I can afford it). D:

I use couerl sub or hedgehog pie most of the time.

[Thorny]

512 delay on man/ridd - 20% = 410 delay
410 - 180 = 230 *6.5 = 1495 / 270 = 5.537 * 1.01= 5.59 = 5.6 tp/hit
512 - 15% = 436 delay
436 - 180 = 256 * 6.5 = 1664 / 270 * 1.01 = 6.2 tp/hit
rampage = 6.2 * 2 + 4 = 16.4 tp
100 - 16.4 = 83.6
83.6 / 5.5 = 15 hits to 100 tp without new body

512 - 23% = 395 delay
395 - 180 = 215 * 6.5 = 1397.5 / 270 = 5.1759 * 1.01(stp) = 5.2 tp/hit
rampage same since you ws in hauby+1
83.6 / 5.2 = 17 hits to 100 tp with new body

2/15 more hits, results in 13.3% more hits to get tp vs the 3.75 more swings landed.. not really worth it in this instance

[Carraway]

Thick Breeches or Exorcist Hose as a stepping stone to better options? (70WAR)

[Genmu]

For RNG TP Bow

Mirke waldecors
[Body] All Races
DEF: 42 HP+10 MP+10 STR+5 DEX+5 AGI+5

with 10 racc/ratt aug

or

Osode

[Genmu]

For NIN TP

Mirke waldecors
[Body] All Races
DEF: 42 HP+10 MP+10 STR+5 DEX+5 AGI+5

Dual Wield3, acc10 or att 10(which 2 augs? acc 10 and duel wield im thinking for better meat results?)


vs AF1

Ninja Chainmail +1
[Body] All Races
DEF: 46 HP +15 DEX +5 VIT +5
Enhances "Dual Wield" effect
Physical damage: "Shock Spikes" effect


will the new body give same, less or more dw effect?

[Meowwie]

For NIN TP

Mirke waldecors
[Body] All Races
DEF: 42 HP+10 MP+10 STR+5 DEX+5 AGI+5

Dual Wield3, acc10 or att 10(which 2 augs? acc 10 and duel wield im thinking for better meat results?)


vs AF1

Ninja Chainmail +1
[Body] All Races
DEF: 46 HP +15 DEX +5 VIT +5
Enhances "Dual Wield" effect
Physical damage: "Shock Spikes" effect


will the new body give same, less or more dw effect?

I may be wrong, but NIN AF probably gives the same effect as Suppa (5%). ACC+10 seems like a reasonable trade for 2% DW.

[Genmu]

2 less DW wil give slightly better tp per swing too, or am i wrong?

[Clash Perez]

Nevermind! Easy choice when one of the pieces wasn't actually an option.

[Pharaun]

For RNG TP Bow

Mirke waldecors
[Body] All Races
DEF: 42 HP+10 MP+10 STR+5 DEX+5 AGI+5

with 10 racc/ratt aug

or

Osode

If you're serious about Ranger why aren't you considering Snapshot +5%? That plus the R.acc or R.att should be better than Osode for TP, Osode should still win for WS. I'm sure VZX could crunch the numbers to tell us how much better.

[Thorny]

For RNG TP Bow

Mirke waldecors
[Body] All Races
DEF: 42 HP+10 MP+10 STR+5 DEX+5 AGI+5

with 10 racc/ratt aug

or

Osode

Mirke waldecors
[Body] All Races
DEF: 42 HP+10 MP+10 STR+5 DEX+5 AGI+5
Subtle Blow+4 Store TP+4 Snapshot+5

Fin.

[Redshift]

Carrying this discussion over from another thread, interested to see thoughts (math!) comparing these 2 GA builds:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18.../RCvsPerdu.png

The difference between the 2: +2 Accuracy, + 12 Attack, +2% Haste for the Rune Chopper Build; +8 Base DMG on the Perdu build.

Eyeballing it I would think the base dmg on the Perdu would certainly make up for the difference in Haste, Acc, Attack and be slightly better overall, but maybe the RC build pulls ahead in higher haste/ zerg situations?

I just put in the info into my excel sheet, and Perdu wins in DoT assuming haste spell, minuet x2 and hedgehog pie. It didn't win by much (just barely), but perdu would definitely win WS damage anyway.

[brisk]

If you're serious about Ranger why aren't you considering Snapshot +5%? That plus the R.acc or R.att should be better than Osode for TP, Osode should still win for WS. I'm sure VZX could crunch the numbers to tell us how much better.

The real issue right now is if RACC or RATT is better paired with Snapshot. What would 8/8 Archery merit players put along with Snapshot?

[Shinryuu]

Store TP.

[Thunder]

what other kind of stp pieces would a vali's bow rng need for a 5hit?

[Jaregue]

which would be better?
sky strider+supremacy earring or Thalassocrat