Whats better?

[Fridell]

Moral of the story, unless THF / DRG, Torques are a waist of time, and its faster to get Gorgets and PCCs.
I guess!

[Thorny]

Sea gorget does nothing for damage. The only thing is accuracy bonus which is nowhere close to PCC or ancient torque.

Sea gorget adds .1 ftp to the first hit and gives 10 accuracy to all hits. On asuran, this amounts to a 1.25% damage increase(which isn't anything spectacular), as well as an additional 3.x acc over faith torque. If your pdif is particularly low AND your acc is capped, it's possible for the torque to win out, but it won't happen often(since low pdif typically means low acc as well).

[Killkenny]

To summarise:

lolpchan

[Akasuna]

hello all

simple question about blu

for histeric barrage .. better to have a ring +5 str or a ring +5 dex (for have max dmg)

thanks

[Jem]

Surely it's simply a case of use Torque when capped Acc and PCC when you'll get the full return of the extra accuracy?

Or have I missed some sort of whoosh here...

[Thorny]

Surely it's simply a case of use Torque when capped Acc and PCC when you'll get the full return of the extra accuracy?

Or have I missed some sort of whoosh here...

If acc is capped then there is a decent chance attack is high enough to make the .1 ftp outdamage the attack from torque. Additionally, you can drop a bit of acc elsewhere for a more beneficial stat with gorget. There are situations where torque will win, just not all that many.

[Seraph]

MDT% vs MDB?

Cap MDT at -50% while taking into account Shell. After that, load up on MDB.

[Max™]

How often are you capped on Acc?

Call me crazy, generally when you're capping Acc in WS gear, it's a whoop dee doo type situation.

[Jem]

Oh sorry, my bad. I didn't scan back far enough then. I thought the original question was 'when the hell are torques put in good use?' so thought we were talking in general rather than solely for WS'es. I use Gorgets for WS'es, I just TP in Justice Torque the majority of the time.

[ryskar]

To summarise:

lolpchan

Seriously. "Sniper +1 is gimp" and now this gorget nonsense? Shit should be bannable.

[Shinryuu]

The one thing that is an inevitable con of having a forum as good as BG's standard forum is you can't effectively yell at people for being idiots (since it takes away from the ratio of sensible, helpful posts), and mods won't look at pchan.

[pchan]

How often are you capped on Acc?

Call me crazy, generally when you're capping Acc in WS gear, it's a whoop dee doo type situation.

95% of the time unless you live in MMJSP(north) and your endboss is MMJ lurker. Also :

Sea gorget adds .1 ftp to the first hit and gives 10 accuracy to all hits. On asuran, this amounts to a 1.25% damage increase(which isn't anything spectacular), as well as an additional 3.x acc over faith torque. If your pdif is particularly low AND your acc is capped, it's possible for the torque to win out, but it won't happen often(since low pdif typically means low acc as well).

focus.

[Shinryuu]

Stop talking.

[Wolfknight]

hello all

simple question about blu

for histeric barrage .. better to have a ring +5 str or a ring +5 dex (for have max dmg)

thanks

dex ring should give more dmg since it doesn't have a str mod, though personally I use str ring cause don't own a dex ring atm.

[Max™]

95% of the time unless you live in MMJSP(north) and your endboss is MMJ lurker.

Jiggawut?

I'm sorry, this is just my first time really engaging with you... you're a Pup from your sig pic, a Mnk from your Focus comment, you have full Usukane... but as a 2hed Melee I'm gonna have to call bullshit on being capped on Acc even somewhere as ultimately meaningless as merit parties, much less doing any sort of event tougher than the opening wave of City dyna mobs... or fucking Campaign.

I admit I was fond of MJSP merits, though I preferred camping right in the skoffin pit, I like knowing that there is at least a slim chance someone might die comedically.

Para > Dispelling Wind > Deadly Drive to a taru who just got Seigan/Third Eye paralyzed is ALWAYS funny shit... as is having a Mam Blm repop and quietly start casting Flare on your Ninja friend, in some motherfucking masterfully timed coup with a Mam Blu who just vorpaled his shadows down before the nuke landed...

Leaving him with 7 Hp, which the Blu promptly Foot Kicks away, to add insult to MURDER!


Newsflash: Jesus wouldn't parse 95% Accuracy everywhere, and he dualwields pre-haste-nerf Apoc Drk's from just after the initial 2hed update hit, 1:1 Str/Dex:Att/Acc and all. His every word is a symphony of soulvoiced madrigals, minuets, and marches, and he eats divine bread which gives Acc/Att/AND Haste.


Now, I may not know much, pchan, but I know for fucking sure that you ain't Jesus, so why don't you go sit back down until you can make a properly formatted argument.

[arshesney]

hello all

simple question about blu

for histeric barrage .. better to have a ring +5 str or a ring +5 dex (for have max dmg)

thanks

Mostly depends on the rest of your gear, if your set is heavily focused on stats and not accuracy the DEX ring might grant you an additional 2.5 (3 if DEX is uneven) accuracy. If you're giving up STR for accuracy in other slots then go with the STR ring.
STR is just awesome for BLU spells, the only spell I found heavily dependant on DEX is Sickle Slash.

[mdkuser]

I believe he wanted to say that focus caps your accuracy on almost everything ( not lurker), and if you merit it its almost half the time if recall.

[Max™]

Focus is like 20~30 Accuracy, so 10~15% increase.

Yay for capping Accuracy part of the time on mobs so weak they LITERALLY hurl themselves fleshy-bits first onto your weapons, begging to be torn asunder.

[pchan]

Focus is like 20~30 Accuracy, so 10~15% increase.

Yay for capping Accuracy part of the time on mobs so weak they LITERALLY hurl themselves fleshy-bits first onto your weapons, begging to be torn asunder.

I don't think you realize what full usukane MNK is. It's not a side grade from previous gear. I've got 390 accuracy in gear, that's without cuchulain's mantle and HQ rings. With focus I cap acc on anything but lurkers. Even if you only do merit on mnk, 40% of the time you cap accuracy. It's actually possible to cap accuracy on bird with high end items such as black tathlum+HQ rings+Hollow earring and cuhulain's mantle without focus, and you can even equip raja's and still cap. So yes capped accuracy exist.

Also : What do you sam&wars equip in salvage ? PCC or Justice torque. My pup caps accuracy in there... pre boss of course but boss is 7 min, salvage is 100 minutes.

[Brown Belt]

Yigit Gomlek (5 Mab) or Errant Hpl.
Nuking on RDM. Which should I use (Morrigans whereeee? I know.) or is it the standerd, INT/Skill for higher/more resistant mobs, and MAB for squishy shit?