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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by zard1977
    For ranger tp and ws: Skadi cuirie or Osode?

    For ranger ws: Skadi hands or Seiryu's kote?

    I am using bolts mainly.
    Can't comment on the body piece, but surely the hands will obviously depend on what you're fighting and the food/support you have?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by zard1977
    For ranger tp and ws: Skadi cuirie or Osode?

    For ranger ws: Skadi hands or Seiryu's kote?

    I am using bolts mainly.
    I don't think the extra 5 RAcc/5 RAtk on Skadi body will offset the loss of 10STR/2AGI enough to not WS in Osode, though I'd probably TP in the Skadi. As for hands, same deal, 15 AGI and 17~ RAcc on S.Kote is a pretty huge chunk in one slot to be overlooked, especially when RNG can get a lot of STR in other slots.

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    Re: Whats better?

    I assume it was around 2k damage, right?

    22% would be 6 hits, a 5 hit+full crit will do about 2k (crits being right around 400 Dmg with your setup, as I recall) so a 6 hit 2k WS would be hard to produce without say, 5 non-crits+1 crit, which is just damn unlikely, on top of damn unlikely to get 3 doubles landed.

    You don't have full HP in the SS, and I don't know of anyone landing a 2400-2500 RR on a G.Coli, so I'd bet that a hit got through during the WS animation just as Third Eye was firing, turning a 20 into a 22%.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Adaman mufflers or alk. brc. for guillotine?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Depends on the rest of your gear; if you already swap in a lot of +acc for Guillo, then use Alky's; otherwise Adaman Mufflers. Work on Chaos Gauntlets+1 though.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Yeah, was gonna say go for the happy middle, AF +1, Heca, something along those lines.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Unless you think you have more acc than needed to get a 95% hit rate with your existing guillo gear, adaman mufflers by far. Alky's only for single hit ws's, spinning slash and such.

    But as others have said, af+1 hands are the best.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Max™
    I assume it was around 2k damage, right?

    22% would be 6 hits, a 5 hit+full crit will do about 2k (crits being right around 400 Dmg with your setup, as I recall) so a 6 hit 2k WS would be hard to produce without say, 5 non-crits+1 crit, which is just damn unlikely, on top of damn unlikely to get 3 doubles landed.

    You don't have full HP in the SS, and I don't know of anyone landing a 2400-2500 RR on a G.Coli, so I'd bet that a hit got through during the WS animation just as Third Eye was firing, turning a 20 into a 22%.
    I found the log, forgot ffassist make a log everytime i close it, my bad it didnt die by RR but this is log, i guess could have been lag and that hit that colibri did on me appeared after RR was connected:


    [2008/05/10 01:06:55] 33 Khayman starts casting Refresh on Khayman.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:55] 38 Mugekuge gains the effect of Minuet.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:56] 1c The Greater Colibri hits Mugekuge for 163 points of damage.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:56] 19 Uki hits the Greater Colibri for 130 points of damage.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:57] 14 Mugekuge uses Raging Rush.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:57] 14 The Greater Colibri takes 1639 points of damage.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:57] d1 Time left: (0:00:20)
    [2008/05/10 01:06:57] 7a Unable to use job ability.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:57] 15 Mugekuge misses the Greater Colibri.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:57] 19 Eclipses hits the Greater Colibri for 93 points of damage.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:58] 0d (Zabac) 15Œo‰ß
    [2008/05/10 01:06:58] 6e Uki readies Tachi: Gekko.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:58] 65 Mugekuge uses Third Eye.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:59] 64 The Greater Colibri readies Snatch Morsel.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:59] 19 Uki uses Tachi: Gekko.
    [2008/05/10 01:06:59] 19 The Greater Colibri takes 927 points of damage.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:00] 19 Zabac hits the Greater Colibri for 58 points of damage.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:00] bf Mugekuge's Food effect wears off.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:02] 19 Uki hits the Greater Colibri for 87 points of damage.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:02] 33 Tellahh starts casting Carnage Elegy on the Greater Colibri.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:02] 7f Eclipses obtains a wind crystal.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:02] 7f Eclipses obtains a wind crystal.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:02] 7f Eclipses obtains a colibri feather.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:03] 66 The Greater Colibri uses Snatch Morsel.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:03] 66 1 of Mugekuge's effects disappears!
    [2008/05/10 01:07:04] 25 Uki defeats the Greater Colibri.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:04] 83 Limit chain #125!
    [2008/05/10 01:07:04] 83 Mugekuge gains 193 limit points.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:04] 79 You find a colibri feather on the Greater Colibri.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:04] 79 You find a wind crystal on the Greater Colibri.
    [2008/05/10 01:07:04] 79 You find a wind crystal on the Greater Colibri.

    Post your parses using rampager if you can plz.

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    Re: Whats better?

    PS2 so gotta get someone to parse for me, the guys I usually try to merit with in LS haven't been on (well, and one had a borked parser til recently) but believe me I will be bugging them to post them up asap when we do.

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    Re: Whats better?

    which is better martial gun or coffinmaker for cor?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Seigfried Of Pandy
    which is better martial gun or coffinmaker for cor?
    That's almost entirely a matter of preference. I have both, I prefer Martial Gun for almost everything, the Slug damage/Accuracy is about the same at 100% TP, while the Detonator damage is much, much better. Corsair's Gun +1 is extremely rare as a QD piece so I use Coffinmaker in fights we're I'm mostly just QD whoring, Martial for everything else.

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    Re: Whats better?

    which is better martial gun or coffinmaker for cor?
    Martial if you melee for TP or are using Detonator, Coffinmaker if you shoot for TP. Pick up a Corsair's Gun (+1 if you can find/afford it) for Quick Draw, a Peacemaker for the rare occasions when you'll be pulling, and a Death Penalty for sinking ships.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Anything else SAM-wise I could be doing better for TP or WS? (Minus Salvage gears).

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/Mantis_22/tp.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/Mantis_22/WS.jpg

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyuan98
    Anything else SAM-wise I could be doing better for TP or WS? (Minus Salvage gears).

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/Mantis_22/tp.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/Mantis_22/WS.jpg
    Cerberus Mantle +1?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Is that a 6 hit build?

    Alky's for WS?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyuan98
    Anything else SAM-wise I could be doing better for TP or WS? (Minus Salvage gears).

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/Mantis_22/tp.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/Mantis_22/WS.jpg
    Need Hachiman Hands (or 8 store tp) for 6 hit build in your tp gear, and Alky's is better for WS as previously stated.

    Other than that, good setup.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaxx
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyuan98
    Anything else SAM-wise I could be doing better for TP or WS? (Minus Salvage gears).

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/Mantis_22/tp.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/Mantis_22/WS.jpg
    Need Hachiman Hands (or 8 store tp) for 6 hit build in your tp gear, and Alky's is better for WS as previously stated.

    Other than that, good setup.
    I never use Alky's for anything except /THF. For /WAR I've always used Kote +1 and I feel I tend to have better results. Maybe I'm just crazy. As for the mantle, I'd rather not bother with a Cerb Mantle +1 mainly due to its current price.

    edit: I'm currently trying to HQ a pair of Hachiman Hands +1. So I guess all I can do is hope I get a good crafting day.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyuan98
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaxx
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyuan98
    Anything else SAM-wise I could be doing better for TP or WS? (Minus Salvage gears).

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/Mantis_22/tp.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/Mantis_22/WS.jpg
    Need Hachiman Hands (or 8 store tp) for 6 hit build in your tp gear, and Alky's is better for WS as previously stated.

    Other than that, good setup.
    I never use Alky's for anything except /THF. For /WAR I've always used Kote +1 and I feel I tend to have better results. Maybe I'm just crazy. As for the mantle, I'd rather not bother with a Cerb Mantle +1. Also, I'm currently trying to HQ a pair of Hachiman Hands +1. So I guess all I can do is hope I get a good crafting day lol.

    Don't need HQ hands for a 6 hit. Unless you have whitebox syndrome, I'd personally sell the HQ if I had them .

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    Re: Whats better?

    if MS is up what would be best for rampage. war. cuisses+1, askar legs or something ive completely overlooked

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capo
    if MS is up what would be best for rampage. war. cuisses+1, askar legs or something ive completely overlooked
    Ares legs. Otherwise, probably WAR AF2 legs for the double attack.

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