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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    Well, you should be aiming to eat meat in most cases, and if you're not getting a base D upgrade from the h2h skill, then you're looking at;

    6.3acc/7atk vs 10acc (PCC; Ancient Torque is even better)

    which is roughly 4acc vs 7atk, accuracy obviously winning here.
    3 accuracy at 299.

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    Hmm, you're right there. I'd still take 3acc over 7atk for TP, but the difference is a little smaller.

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    yes you should aim for meat anyway but if you dont do salvage, you will be stuck with pizza most likely and with pizza on most mob Faith is far enough (against depends on what gear you have).

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    Even the extra base damage doesn't warrant using Faith over Ancient. Even Pizza doesn't cap your hitrate on most stuff.

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    if you just do salvage then faith full time except bosses. caped acuracy is caped.

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    Spike Necklace would be better :/ capped pDIF is capped, too.

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    MNK can cap accuracy? Wtshit?

    If you're going to use both, Faith when Focus is up, PCC/AT when Focus is down.

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    I have caped accuracy at birds w/o focus.

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    Absolutely Not Possible, if you're eating Meat and hitting 25% Haste in gear. If you're not, fix those 2 things first. This is, from what I can tell, the best setup you're going to be able to get on Mnk acc-wise: http://ffxigear.com/?ref=4416, and that's 395 acc. Even with 8/8 h2h merits added on top of that, you're adding 14.4 acc to hit 409. *Barely* scraping capped acc, and the model in that setup is a Mithra. Any other race will be below capped acc.

    Possible changes would be to ditch full usu and go Turban/Byakko's to keep Haste capped, but you'd end up losing accuracy overall from the change. (7 acc Usu head + 5 Dex usu pants > 15 Dex kitty pants)

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    We (Raen and me) were talking about Salvage. On birds, the highest possible accuracy without sacrificing good gear is:

    82 base DEX (mithra MNK w/ DEX merits) + 4 (torque) + 13 (usukane) + 1 (tathlum) + 4 (Cuch) = 52 ACC
    Gear: 10 (weapon) + 4 (tathlum) + 38 (Usu) + 15 (rings) + 9 (torque) + 5 (Cuch) = 81 ACC
    Skill: 292 = 282 ACC

    Total: 415 ACC. It's possible. It's possible even without Mars's (-1), Mithra DEX (-varied).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Absolutely Not Possible, if you're eating Meat and hitting 25% Haste in gear. If you're not, fix those 2 things first. This is, from what I can tell, the best setup you're going to be able to get on Mnk acc-wise: FFXIGEAR.com, and that's 395 acc. Even with 8/8 h2h merits added on top of that, you're adding 14.4 acc to hit 409. *Barely* scraping capped acc, and the model in that setup is a Mithra. Any other race will be below capped acc.

    Possible changes would be to ditch full usu and go Turban/Byakko's to keep Haste capped, but you'd end up losing accuracy overall from the change. (7 acc Usu head + 5 Dex usu pants > 15 Dex kitty pants)
    Um, you just proved yourself wrong....

    if that build is 409acc the he is capped. end of.

    This is a far more obtainable build that still caps acc (with 8/8 merits and Focus up)

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    409 in an absolutely ideal situation, 410 being capped, and if he's elvaan then he loses 4 acc vs the Mithra in the model.

    Ah, I didn't see you were talking about Salvage though, my bad. I was responding more towards the bird comment though. And in an ideal damage situation a Mnk would be using Augmented Manopolas over Hades+1, dropping 7-9 acc. I forgot Black Tathlum and Mar's Ring too... bah. Dex merits though? I'd toss those out just for being, well, Dex merits. It's still ridiculously difficult to cap acc on even Birds on Mnk, so for all practical purposes I'd still say Faith for Focus onry.

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    I use this gear, capped haste, with meat:

    - FFXIAH.com

    On bird camps I actually use destroyers.

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    I'm impressed. Aye, with Destroyers that's about 395-400 acc, so 90%~ish (?). Nice Mnk~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    Spike Necklace would be better :/ capped pDIF is capped, too.
    you never cap pdif, seriously. Never.

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    Unless you're a 2hed melee with Berserk and Minuets eating Meat on the right targets.

    On Monk... some Salvage mobs are really squishy... I could see it I guess.

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    This is my TP build on war atm with 8/8 GA merits.
    FFXIGEAR.com

    Aiming for these 2 pieces atm to be at about 420 acc base.
    FFXIGEAR.com

    Now I'm wondering if I could settle for ethereal and full time fort torque instead. How bad would it hurt my acc or should I stick to what I'm aiming for maybe a torque in the future.

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    PCC/Assault is the best of those options, I use PCC/Ethereal cause I'm low on funds atm and have both for Pld anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    PCC/Assault is the best of those options, I use PCC/Ethereal cause I'm low on funds atm and have both for Pld anyways.
    Depends on other gear, but with his setup, you're wrong I think. His main goal should be to drop Askar hands/head IMO, and pick up Dusk+Turban (hand switch first, head later if you have the acc).

    Assault+Askar = 5.75acc, 5attk, 2haste
    Hollow+Dusk = 5.25acc, 5attk, 3haste

    Unless you're arguing for Assault+Dusk, which is ok as long as he's still accuracy capped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I'm impressed. Aye, with Destroyers that's about 395-400 acc, so 90%~ish (?). Nice Mnk~

    if you think about it, 431 acc (focus) caps your acc (thats almost 50% of the time); then when focus is down you , with 401 acc, you still cap on the lower level colibris. So in practice, 401 acc with destroyer caps you 75% of the time and gives 92% otherwise, which explains why the parse gives 94% on average.

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