Whats better?

[Arthars]

nah not talking about XP and merits mobs, sorry if i didnt clarify XD

i only use drk if i meripo, so my other jobs macro is kinda stats-boosted for simple, easy events where i can take a break from drk

just for stuffs like salvage or dyna where we all love pizzas

[Arthars]

http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=81244

not a problem with sushi/pizza, but just wanna know if i should swap hope torque for pcc, and rajas for 2nd toreador/angel ring/sniper+1 for meat onry

[mdkuser]

- FFXIAH.com

not a problem with sushi/pizza, but just wanna know if i should swap hope torque for pcc, and rajas for 2nd toreador/angel ring/sniper+1 for meat onry

This gear is so wrong. Full usukane is only good for mnk and pup. Ninjas get AF+1 body dusk gloves turban and byakko's for a pizza build. Meat replace body by usukane and 2 HQ sniper.

just for stuffs like salvage or dyna where we all love pizzas

wtf do you use pizza for in dynamis and salvage...

[Wolfknight]

This gear is so wrong. Full usukane is only good for mnk and pup. Ninjas get AF+1 body dusk gloves turban and byakko's for a pizza build. Meat replace body by usukane and 2 HQ sniper.



wtf do you use pizza for in dynamis and salvage...

for mnk w/no H2H merits[salvage that is] on mega boss run and full usukane is good for relic sam, or TE merit non-Relic sam really, or good overall for sam cause of defensive advantage.

[Arthars]

well pizza good for salvage so i dont have to eat over and over to become fatter

as for going back to dusk hand + chainmail, i dont wanna be in a town ninja uniform again, i'll stick to full usukane lol

as for sushi and pizza yea, chainmail + dusk + byakko + turban definately better, but my main concern is saying that if i eat sushi or pizza with that set, it wouldnt hurt my acc at all.
not comparing whether it is better than chainmail + dusk + byakko + turban if i eat sushi ^^

so mainly talking about:
5 agi 7 katana skill + 5 str 5 dex stp 5 VS 17 acc

mainly looking at meat for that equip. tbh i havent eat sushi and pizza on nin since 2006

if i were to eat sushi again on NIN, i will definately go back to turban + byakko + chianmail + dusk, but honestly, i dont see myself doing so.
NIN for me atm is used only for SSR, and some stuffs where i dual box, or low man, like fire bomblet and dual-boxing salvage where some evasion wouldnt hurt. full usu nin is a general 3 in 1 package deal. acc + enough haste + evasion

my nin parse the same like a well geared ridill war before 2H patch and tbh, if you saying turban + chainmail + byakko + dusk + sushi is better than full usu + meat in merit situation, i would not disagree. i doubt the gear i posted above is even better than my previous gear (chainmail byakko dusk turban)

now DRK pretty much took over everything in the damage department.....so i dont really care about ninja in damage oriented situations anymore
damage is DRK ONRYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyy

i hope you get what i mean for my situation ^^

so yea! back to hope torque + rajas VS toreador/sniper/angel ring + pcc/ancient!!!

[Max™]

PCC/Ancient + Acc rings

[mdkuser]

I never use meat on ninja in merits because I have zero katanas merit. Even with my best meat build ( turban, usukane body, byakkos, usukane feet, 2 HQ sniper, A. torque, chuchu, bomblet) I cannot break 80% average hit rate at MMJ camps, and found a sushi build a lot better. For a ninja, af body or mirke are awesome. Moving from 35% dw to 40% is a 8% straight dmg increase, and 35% > 38% is 5% increase ( a bit less if you include the acc str and attack loss).

By the way, augmented mirke wardecors will be better for meat build than either usu body or HQ haubergeon, and hope torque is only good for caped or close to caped accuracy (> 92%), and for trick attack!

[pchan]

Hissho Hachimaki vs Optical Hat for Asuran Fists? Haven't gotten Hissho yet, and I'm wondering if it's the best piece around (in head slot) or is it just basically inventory -1?

Always Hissho hachimaki. Since you boost, with AF hands, it's 9 or 10 attack. It's best for cap and uncap accuracy.

[TybudX]

Oracles vs. Yigit vs. Morrigan's hands?
Altruistic vs. Ixion back?
Igqira (Genie) vs. Morrigan's legs?

For BLM enfeebling? I would think in these cases the hard stat would be better for potency, or am I missing something?

[Raen Ryong]

1 skill = 1 macc
1 INT/MND = +1 macc until dSTAT is +10, then +0.5 macc thereafter
1 macc = 1 macc

Where d = delta, "difference"
STAT = INT or MND

E.g.: You have 90 INT, monster has 85 INT. You add a +8 INT item. This adds 6.5 magic accuracy (first 5 is worth +1macc each, last 3 is worth +0.5macc each).

Can use those criteria to compare them~

Obviously for para/slow, MND also adds potency so consider that in balance.

[Arthars]

I never use meat on ninja in merits because I have zero katanas merit. Even with my best meat build ( turban, usukane body, byakkos, usukane feet, 2 HQ sniper, A. torque, chuchu, bomblet) I cannot break 80% average hit rate at MMJ camps, and found a sushi build a lot better. For a ninja, af body or mirke are awesome. Moving from 35% dw to 40% is a 8% straight dmg increase, and 35% > 38% is 5% increase ( a bit less if you include the acc str and attack loss).

By the way, augmented mirke wardecors will be better for meat build than either usu body or HQ haubergeon, and hope torque is only good for caped or close to caped accuracy (> 92%), and for trick attack!

seriously, i doubt any NIN atm can cap acc in mamools(95%) with well mix haste and acc gears, even with sushi ._.

my previous turban chainmail dusk byakko+sushi build is roughly 89% only even with sushi +1

maybe wish usu they can now! XD

[TybudX]

Stuff.

So ideally I'll want to have both options, with the exception of Oracles gloves. These things don't appear to exist, but I want them for the hMP. If they're just going to come out even with Morrigan's, I can live without them. I don't need hMP that badly.

[drwaffles]

So ideally I'll want to have both options, with the exception of Oracles gloves. These things don't appear to exist, but I want them for the hMP. If they're just going to come out even with Morrigan's, I can live without them. I don't need hMP that badly.

Considering BLM is the only pure mage job in the game without a reasonable, self-sustaining and consistently available method of MP recovery, I'd say you probably do need as much hMP as you can get. Seriously, I'd make getting together a really solid hMP setup a priority before trying to fine-tune your other setups.

[Shinryuu]

But Aspir iz teh kewlies.

[TybudX]

I don't do HNM, and aside from Gnole Torque, Oracle's Gloves are the only upgrade I can make to hMP. For the stuff I do use BLM for, hMP isn't that big of an issue, unless I'm soloing something and things go bad... nothing sucks more than having to sleep something, rest a tick, re-sleep it, rest a tick, re-sleep it, rest a tick...

I guess it's a tough call, either way... part of me wants to get all 3 hand options, just to have everything covered, but the other part of me has to worry about storage space and an ever increasing number of Rare/Exclusive items that I can't stuff in my delivery box.

[Khajit]

seriously, i doubt any NIN atm can cap acc in mamools(95%) with well mix haste and acc gears, even with sushi ._.

my previous turban chainmail dusk byakko+sushi build is roughly 89% only even with sushi +1

maybe wish usu they can now! XD

83% on my nin with pizza. Vs non lurker/infiltrator i had 90% acc. puks(yay flash) and infiltrator made the overall acc lower.
Before I get hq snipers I can add around +10 acc on my tp set. cuch mantle, chuck rajas for a sniper on tp, upgrade neck and bam. That should give me around 95% acc with pizza.

[mdkuser]

Oracles vs. Yigit vs. Morrigan's hands?
Altruistic vs. Ixion back?
Igqira (Genie) vs. Morrigan's legs?

For BLM enfeebling? I would think in these cases the hard stat would be better for potency, or am I missing something?

Leg: genie.
back: altruistic
hands: I use Master caster mitts ( +10 skill ) in limbus sea dynamis, morrigans otherwise.

[Pumaite]

TP gear question for polearm sam on greater colibri.

edit: this is assuming no madrigal/hunter's roll

Sub War I would use
Tomoe | Pole grip| | Goblin Cracker
Usu | love torque| brutal | minuet
Usu | dusk | rajas | toreadors
cuch | swift | byakko's | Usu

Alternative choices include W. Turban, Askar head, /drg (with wyvern earring). I know ace's would be the best choice but unfortunately that's not an option.

Is this my best option or would I be better served with a different combination?

FFXIGEAR.com -- here is the set

[Cream Soda]

For no madrigal/sushi/hunter's, I use
Tomoe/Pole/Empty/Black Tathlum
Usu/Pcc/Brutal/Minuet
Haub+1/Usu/Rajas/Toreador's
Foragers/Vbelt/Kitty/Usu

So comparing acc

0/0/0/+2
0/-1~0/0/0
0/+10/0/0
-5/-3/0/0

So before dex you have -(3~4) Then you have +2 dex on me from body,+4 from back, and +5 on torque (which I already added when comparing to pcc) and -1 since I have black tathlum. 5 dex (.75) is 3-4 acc so you either have +1 acc than me or break even. My build gets 83-85% on lv 82 birds and higher on lv 81 birds (w/o hasso, 5% higher on each w/). So you should be fine to use teh meats with that build but focus more on acc for ws than str and attack (as u would be doing with madrigal/sushi/hunter's).

I have capped PA merits though so if you don't, you may not be able to do this build w/o the acc buffs/food

[Shinryuu]

Tomoe/Pole/_/Black
Turban/Love/Brutal/Hollow
Usu/Dusk/Rajas/Toreador
Cuchulain/Vbelt/Byakko/Usu

Would be 120 DEX for me, and with 6 polearm merits (257 skill) it'd be 394 ACC with hasso, or a little less than 90% hitrate. With Ace's it'd only be better. Then you could opt for hands with more ACC... but 3% haste is a lot, and 5% hitrate won't beat that I think. Even 6% (Hachiryu hands) won't in merits w/ 2x march and hasso.

/DRG w/ polearm isn't that great, Berserk is like 30% damage on both TP and WS (comparison: for GKT berserk is basically only that for TPing since Gekko'll have capped pDIF on a lot of stuff). /DRG is pretty much GKT-only.