Whats better?

[Max™]

Yeah...

If I was completely gimping myself, and let's be totally honest here, I don't /Sam that much anymore, so 6 hit is out the window, leaving me with what, the option for a 7 hit on a Job I play strictly for fun these days... or a ring which makes me super happy, that I use constantly on a job I love being on?

That's so utterly moronic of you to make it a "It's my $12.95" thing, it isn't as if I'm not using the Sattva every day, all day, for the HP+Enm combo, or at least voke on War... where Rajas I don't miss because I wouldn't be using it's biggest boost, easy 6 hit.

Learn that other people have different goals and enjoy different things... stroking my War epeen is boring, it's huge, I know, I don't really care anymore.

[Thorny]

it a "It's my $12.95" thing

.

[Kaelia]

I think they're only making it a deal, because this is a "what's better?" thread, and it's implied that people are looking for responses about "what's better for overall performance" rather than "what's better for my personal tastes." Your argument is perfectly valid in a general sense, but in consideration of the thread's purpose, pimping out a character with both a DD and a tank to the best balance they can = Rajas > Sattvas.

[matix]

seka namas>namas>light p

krakening, it would happen ALOT more often than once per 5mins

[tsola]

This has probably been asked a million times, but can't find it.

Morrigan vs Magus Jubbah for TPing? I used to think Morrigan's was better, but recent threads have been saying you should gear for as much haste/acc, and then eat meat. I used to eat sushi as blu as well, should I now be eating meat?

8/8 sword merits, following gear:

Weapon: Perdu/Koggel
Head:Turban
Neck: PCC
Body:Morrigan or Magus
Hands:Homam
Legs:Homam
Feet:Homam
Back:Cuchu
Waist:Swift
Rings: Toreador/Sniper
Ear:Brutal/Suppa

I'm hoping to try and merit this week as BLU, so trying to get all my gear ready. Thanks for any help.

[Yugl]

This has probably been asked a million times, but can't find it.

Morrigan vs Magus Jubbah for TPing? I used to think Morrigan's was better, but recent threads have been saying you should gear for as much haste/acc, and then eat meat. I used to eat sushi as blu as well, should I now be eating meat?

8/8 sword merits, following gear:

Weapon: Perdu/Koggel
Head:Turban
Neck: PCC
Body:Morrigan or Magus
Hands:Homam
Legs:Homam
Feet:Homam
Back:Cuchu
Waist:Swift
Rings: Toreador/Sniper
Ear:Brutal/Suppa

I'm hoping to try and merit this week as BLU, so trying to get all my gear ready. Thanks for any help.

I hate all these BLUs with shiny gear. With your set up (Actually any set up), Relic Body triumphs over Morrigans. I doubt you can use Subs, but you might be able to get away with Pizza > Sushi. Not sure though.

[Wolfknight]

This has probably been asked a million times, but can't find it.

Morrigan vs Magus Jubbah for TPing? I used to think Morrigan's was better, but recent threads have been saying you should gear for as much haste/acc, and then eat meat. I used to eat sushi as blu as well, should I now be eating meat?

8/8 sword merits, following gear:

Weapon: Perdu/Koggel
Head:Turban
Neck: PCC
Body:Morrigan or Magus
Hands:Homam
Legs:Homam
Feet:Homam
Back:Cuchu
Waist:Swift
Rings: Toreador/Sniper
Ear:Brutal/Suppa

I'm hoping to try and merit this week as BLU, so trying to get all my gear ready. Thanks for any help.

I assume you meant mirage not magus >.>. Since that doesn't make sense, Mirage is generally better unless you're at or near the acc cap, though If you have morrigan mirage shouldn't be huge priority.

[Colm]

Is Shura body worth picking up for SAM? Usukane isn't really an option, but I have Osode waiting at 75.

[Burnsy]

Is Shura body worth picking up for SAM? Usukane isn't really an option, but I have Osode waiting at 75.

Gonna say no, as you have access to a Haubergon/Osode, and as a SAM the Osode is actually sorta good...


Personally I'd fulltime a hauby on MNK if I could, and never need another body again.

[Wolfknight]

Gonna say no, as you have access to a Haubergon/Osode, and as a SAM the Osode is actually sorta good...


Personally I'd fulltime a hauby on MNK if I could, and never need another body again.

this, TP haub, WS Osode.

[fantasticdan]

Using meat on blu is rarely worth it. It only affects a portion of your damage, and if your acc on multihit spells isn't capped than it's a waste. Honestly I think it's generally better just to stick to sushi/pizza and swap in some STR/atk gears where applicable if your acc is capped in TP gear; for example cuch. mantle -> foragers, pcc -> fort. torque, etc. Also the more excess accuracy you have, the more acc you can drop for str/dex on spells.

Meriting on blu sucks thou, unless you're soloing/duoing or something.

I hate all these BLUs with shiny gear. With your set up (Actually any set up), Relic Body triumphs over Morrigans. I doubt you can use Subs, but you might be able to get away with Pizza > Sushi. Not sure though.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. With his gear/merits and sushi/pizza, his melee acc will be over cap in basically any situation blu/nin would be useful.

[Max™]

I think they're only making it a deal, because this is a "what's better?" thread, and it's implied that people are looking for responses about "what's better for overall performance" rather than "what's better for my personal tastes." Your argument is perfectly valid in a general sense, but in consideration of the thread's purpose, pimping out a character with both a DD and a tank to the best balance they can = Rajas > Sattvas.

I'm quite aware of that, I wasn't asking for what is better for overall performance.

Let's go ahead and turn the logic around, test how it bears out.

Shin, Thorny, if you ever use any job but War/Sam, then hey, it's your $12.95 to waste.

Wow, sounds pretty stupid that way doesn't it?

[Shinryuu]

I'm going to respond in the same way I always respond to "12.95"-based comments (whether it's "omgz teh swordz dmgz is maekin me moar damagey"-Red Mage w/o subjob or whether it's well-thought out and seemingly viable on the outside, like your thing):

MMORPG

->

On BLU:

Please please please keep in mind sushi doesn't cap your accuracy like tada bam fixed. It's simply 16% more accuracy, which is +64 if you have 400 base ACC. Now, as a BLU you don't have anywhere near that, so it's less, and I'd say 464 just about barely caps accuracy on really hard stuff (if even). In comparison: my NIN that doesn't have katana merits but does have good accuracy gear just about caps hitrate on birds with sushi (and Haubergeon+1 to boot).

[Max™]

lol

Ok, so you admit that you're wasting the time of everyone you do anything with in game any time you get on any job but War/Sam or Sam/War.

[Shinryuu]

No, I mean that overall utility in a group-based game is derived from both your utility ("Happiness") and the utility other people derive from your performance. Simple economics. Now, I can safely say that no other person will ever notice your Sattva, whereas Rajas? Decent extra chunk of damage if it adds either a notable amount of +crit (it can, easily) or especially if it cuts a hit to 100 (from 6 to 5 swings-after-WS is a 17% decrease, multiply that by your WS/TP ratio and bam, there's the increase in total damage).

[Cream Soda]

lol

Ok, so you admit that you're wasting the time of everyone you do anything with in game any time you get on any job but War/Sam or Sam/War.

Did I miss the memo where those 2 jobs were the best DDs in every situation?

[Crizto]

Did I miss the memo where those 2 jobs were the best DDs in every situation?

Yes you did. It was sent this afternoon.

[Killkenny]

krakening, it would happen ALOT more often than once per 5mins

Soboro sam is going to get tp faster than K club rng in high haste situations, you self SC very often with soboro and haste/march/hasso.

[Max™]

No, I mean that overall utility in a group-based game is derived from both your utility ("Happiness") and the utility other people derive from your performance. Simple economics. Now, I can safely say that no other person will ever notice your Sattva, whereas Rajas? Decent extra chunk of damage if it adds either a notable amount of +crit (it can, easily) or especially if it cuts a hit to 100 (from 6 to 5 swings-after-WS is a 17% decrease, multiply that by your WS/TP ratio and bam, there's the increase in total damage).

It doesn't cut my hits from 6 to 5 as I generally go War/Nin for tanking or War/Drg for fun these days. The +Crits I'll give you, but I don't do merit parties anymore, so the situations where my damage output is a critical factor are significantly reduced.

Sattva lets me get a full 193 Hp Cure 3 in +37~41 Enm, which generates about 265~270 CE, not using Sattva would require replacing a slot I currently use for Enm for more Hp, for a net loss of at least 6 Enm.

250 CE/1500 VE vs 270 CE/1600 VE makes me that much more efficient at capping Atonement damage rapidly, using less MP to do so, and holding hate that much more effectively.

Just because you assume Rajas would be more noticeable doesn't make it a fact, the truth is that both are marginal gains at best in my situation, so it comes down to what I do more with the jobs. Most of the time, I'm tanking while DDing, it's more useful than just DDing outside of merits.

I actually USE my Sattva for a unique benefit it offers (HP + Enm in Ring slot), and the marginal benefit of +6 Enm in ring slots for War voke, 5 Vit for /Dnc waltzes, and 5 Agi for Eva/Parry/Shield blocks is just gravy. I'd use it if it was just 30 Hp and 3 Enm.

[Shinryuu]

The fact that you even use WAR/DRG illustrates my point all the more: you don't value other players at all, only about your self-derived happiness. It's quite selfish and ultimately doesn't yield the best results in a team-based game where the same situations keep repeating themselves. You'll slowly but surely build a bad reputation.