Item Search
     
BG-Wiki Search
Page 266 of 269 FirstFirst ... 216 256 264 265 266 267 268 ... LastLast
Results 5301 to 5320 of 5362

Thread: Whats better?     submit to reddit submit to twitter

  1. #5301
    An exploitable mess of a card game
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    13,197
    BG Level
    9
    FFXIV Character
    Gouka Mekkyaku
    FFXIV Server
    Gilgamesh
    FFXI Server
    Diabolos

    Quote Originally Posted by Ddboner View Post
    For BLU Disseverment (also frenetic rip/hysteric barrage)

    Currently:

    applicable merits
    8/8 blu magic | 8/8 sword skill | 5/5 phys pot and acc(i kinda forget blu tier 1 merits w) 4/5 enchainment

    eating meat for the sake of this hypothetical

    perdu | kogg | xxx | smart grenade/str chakram
    v.sallet | fort.torque | minuet earring | suppa
    jubbah+1 | creek M mitts | flame (ulthalam in nyzul) | Rajas
    commander cape | warwolf belt | enkidu | denali

    Cant remember off the top so lets assume +10str +5dex from spells.

    ?: Are the skill peices doing anything for me?

    Neck, whats better?
    fort or pcc/spike necklace (kubira is the end goal but please ignore it for this hypothetical)

    Ear?
    suppa or some variant of str earring

    Edit: thanks in advance hehe /
    1. If by skill piece you mean BLU skill, then yes. Sword skill only affects ACC.

    2. PCC is better for the ACC. You don't benefit from the ATT gained by Fort Torque and the torque only has ~6 ACC.

    3. Suppa + STR Ear maybe. If you're using ATT items > Sushi, then you'll want that extra ~4ACC from the ear equip.

    Edit: Since you're using ATT items > Sushi, the ACC from gear becomes increasingly important. I understand that this is a hypothetical situation, but you'll almost never be in a situation where using ATT items > Sushi-like items (Maybe Pizza?) since ATT doesn't affect spells and you gain more STR from gear than items.

  2. #5302
    New Spam Forum
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    150
    BG Level
    3

    I use meat for things like nyzul (well not so much nyzul I guess) but stuff where I might not have a rdm/brd and feel like I need to spread out my spell usage for mp. I find adding in some nice sword dot with meat and using my tp for vorpals instead of chain affinity helps my group out.

    I know meat doesn't do anything for spells aside from added str etc. from certain meats, and yea more often than not I use pizza or sole.

    I should probably have been more specific in saying "not acc food" hahaha

    Summary is; switch to PCC for neck slot? ear is more of a grey area..?

  3. #5303
    An exploitable mess of a card game
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    13,197
    BG Level
    9
    FFXIV Character
    Gouka Mekkyaku
    FFXIV Server
    Gilgamesh
    FFXI Server
    Diabolos

    Quote Originally Posted by Ddboner View Post
    Summary is; switch to PCC for neck slot? ear is more of a grey area..?
    Pretty much.

    Question: Dusk mask v NQ Wivre for SATACA CB.

  4. #5304
    Old Merits
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    1,151
    BG Level
    6
    FFXI Server
    Leviathan

    Using Brutal Earring and Rajas Ring, for maintaining Store TP +26:

    Aurum Cuirass + Toreador's Ring
    Askar Korazin + Toreador's Ring
    Nuevo Coselete (Accuracy +10 Store TP +4) + Ecphoria Ring

    After negating the minimum of all stats on all 3, I get this:

    Strength +3 Dexterity +8 Defense +2 Attack +18 Accuracy +6
    Vitality +8 Agility +8 Attack +12 Double Attack +2
    HP +10 Dexterity +5 Vitality +13 Agility +8 Defense +2 Accuracy +11 Subtle Blow +5

    What's better?

  5. #5305
    Hydra
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    118
    BG Level
    3

    Just a minor correction, Nuevo can only get store tp+4 on it.

  6. #5306
    assburgers
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    10,925
    BG Level
    9

    Only stats that really matter are: Dex +8 Att 15 Acc 3, DA 2% Att 12 Acc 3, Dex 5 Acc 10.

    Even losing 3 acc from Toreador > Ecphoria, you're still up 10 Acc 5 Dex on Asscrap failazin, and up 10 Acc/down 3 Dex on Aurum.

    10~15 Att~DA for 6~13 Acc is a stupid trade off if you have access to the other options.

  7. #5307
    Puppetmaster
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    70
    BG Level
    2
    FFXI Server
    Bismarck

    Quick War Questions

    I'm sure this has been asked before, but I can't seem to find it using the search function and I don't really want to go through 175+ pages >.>

    Wondering if I should be using Askar Zucchetto or Walajra Turban for TPing on War. Here's my Current Setup (feel free to give any other tips!)
    Byakko's Haidate
    Perdu Voulge
    Fire Bomblet
    Rajas Ring
    Swift Belt
    Ulthalam's Ring
    Dusk Ledelsens
    Cerberus Mantle
    Hauberk
    Askar Manopolas
    Peacock Amulet
    Brutal Earring
    Ethereal Earring
    Pole Grip
    Askar Zucchetto
    Also, any advice on whether the new expansion Head piece would beat heca hat for RR? I saw a few comparisons in the thread, but they seem to all have more hardcore supporting gear than I do. Current setup:
    Hecatomb Cap
    Perdu Voulge
    Hecatomb Leggings
    Hecatomb Mittens
    Hauberk
    Cerberus Mantle
    Rajas Ring
    Potent Belt
    Byakko's Haidate
    Ulthalam's Ring
    Brutal Earring
    Fowling Earring
    Aqua Gorget
    Fire Bomblet
    Pole Grip
    Thanks for the input!

  8. #5308
    E. Body
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    2,096
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Leviathan

    Quote Originally Posted by PEIPld View Post
    I'm sure this has been asked before, but I can't seem to find it using the search function and I don't really want to go through 175+ pages >.>

    Wondering if I should be using Askar Zucchetto or Walajra Turban for TPing on War. Here's my Current Setup (feel free to give any other tips!)
    Thanks for the input!
    Askar vs Turban is depended on haste and acc, though generally if you getting two marchs and haste, turban, otherwise it's more vague and use fowling over ethereal for GA, and mineut when active.

  9. #5309
    Old Merits
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    1,151
    BG Level
    6

    High haste and accuracy situations, Turban. Not so high accuracy, I guess Askar, but this should almost never happen. Askar is an ok piece when you are not being hasted, no marches etc.

    Should also change what Wolfknight said, and use Dusk hands instead of askar in just about any scenario.

    Hecatomb Cap will be better than the new ws head piece combo for RR everywhere except fighting a really evasive mobs without the proper buffs, too. It would allow you to wear stats instead of acc in other slots, but loading on DEX, sea gorget, hauby/+1/ebody is already giving most of the acc you need. That piece is extremely good for pentathrust, asuran fists, guillotine, etc, though.

  10. #5310
    E. Body
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    2,096
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Leviathan

    Quote Originally Posted by Darlantan View Post
    use Dusk hands instead of askar in just about any scenario.
    I am going to have to disagree on that since 3.75 acc vs 1 haste, unless you're capped acc or at 55~65% haste depending on acc% askar will beat out dusk.

  11. #5311
    Puppetmaster
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    70
    BG Level
    2
    FFXI Server
    Bismarck

    Just for comparison

    Hands Dusk vs Askar: 1% Haste 5 att vs 5 Dex (& 8 Eva)

    Head Turban vs Askar: 1% Haste vs 4 Str, 4 Dex ( & 4 Vit)

    Why go with Askar hands over dusk, but turban over askar head. Wouldnt 4str be >> 1 dex (and 5 att) ?
    Not disagreeing, just trying to understand ^^

  12. #5312
    Old Merits
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    1,174
    BG Level
    6
    FFXI Server
    Valefor

    Quote Originally Posted by PEIPld View Post
    Just for comparison

    Hands Dusk vs Askar: 1% Haste 5 att vs 5 Dex (& 8 Eva)

    Head Turban vs Askar: 1% Haste vs 4 Str, 4 Dex ( & 4 Vit)

    Why go with Askar hands over dusk, but turban over askar head. Wouldnt 4str be >> 1 dex (and 5 att) ?
    Not disagreeing, just trying to understand ^^
    If you have over 50-60% haste and over 85% acc then Dusk and Turban win

    If you have less haste and/or less acc then askar become viable.

    Some of these guys only (mostly) do maths based on in a party with a BRD and RDM(or WHM) with at least 1 march and haste.

    Others accept that some of the time you wont have anything more than the haste you wear (campaign, solo) or other times you will be getting limited support (low man, or lacking bards online).

    Those that say Dusk and Turban 'for life' are prodomiently in the former group.

    Disclaimers:
    I know when you are in campaign you will have capped acc, so that is a dusk and turban orny event.
    I am not trying to have a go at anyone, just explain to the new guy how it goes.

  13. #5313
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    617
    BG Level
    5

    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Pretty much.

    Question: Dusk mask v NQ Wivre for SATACA CB.
    Dusk Mask > NQ Wivre because of a huge def difference, assuming you're going to CB tough NM. Otherwise, NQ Wivre > Dusk.

  14. #5314
    E. Body
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    2,096
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Leviathan

    Quote Originally Posted by PEIPld View Post
    Just for comparison

    Hands Dusk vs Askar: 1% Haste 5 att vs 5 Dex (& 8 Eva)

    Head Turban vs Askar: 1% Haste vs 4 Str, 4 Dex ( & 4 Vit)

    Why go with Askar hands over dusk, but turban over askar head. Wouldnt 4str be >> 1 dex (and 5 att) ?
    Not disagreeing, just trying to understand ^^
    Was my understanding for ws dmg heavy jobs acc was valued at least 5x the value of str/attack.

  15. #5315
    Old Merits
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    1,151
    BG Level
    6

    The thing is (at least in my experience) the situations you are on your own (not being hasted, no marches), you are most likely fighting something weak, where you have capped hit rate, anyway. So in the end you only want to wear askar head and hands in the very few situations you find yourself hitting something without capped hit rate and a low % of haste, which will only happen in some hnms or middle-range events where you are slacking and not eating pizza.

  16. #5316
    New Spam Forum
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    170
    BG Level
    3

    For tarudin champion's galea what would be best combination as an ichi piece? 3% FC and +5 shield, 5% FC, whataru? I've already homam legs and 5% FC on Nuevo if that would make a difference in how to build, and I also don't do any major hnm; Odin, Dynamis, low man, solo basically for this taru.

    A complementaruy taru dancey-wance to the firstaru response that informs!

  17. #5317
    Chram
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    2,622
    BG Level
    7

    Ok, with the new moogle hats coming out, I want it to be a pup headpiece, and one augment I am completely set on is the acc +3/pet: haste +5%.

    I want to make it a TP piece for my pup, but I'm also working on a haste build for pup. The two augments I can choose that seem appealing to go with it are the haste +3%/snapshot +3 augment, or the acc +10/att +5 augment to go along with my 3 acc, 5% pet haste.

    The question is, which would be better? I currently have:
    Swift Belt: 4%
    Pantin hands: +3%/pet: haste +3%
    and situationally Wyvern Earring: 5% with /drg sub

    Keep in mind, that pup can hit up to 26% gear haste with /drg sub using the following:

    W. Turban: 5%
    Goliard Body: 4%
    Wyvern earring: 5%
    Usukane legs: 3%
    Usukane feet: 2%
    Swift Belt: 4%
    Pantin hands: 3%/3% pet

    Without /drg, its 21%... and swaping W turban for the 3% haste augment, the caps are 24%/19% respectively.

    At what point of haste % would 3% haste outweigh 10 acc/5 attack? Halp! :s

  18. #5318
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    606
    BG Level
    5

    haste+3
    enmity+4 (mdt-2)

    for flash or other hate casting?

  19. #5319
    Puppetmaster
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    70
    BG Level
    2
    FFXI Server
    Bismarck

    @ Kiaru:
    I would think the best way to go is to put 5%FC on the head, then switch to Koenig/Kaiser Schaller after casting has started for max shield skill
    That would give you 5% FC and 5/6 Shield Skill as well.

    If that's too much macroing/you don't have Martial Head, imo the 5 shield skill would beat out 2% FC. But that's just my 2 cents and I'm new.

  20. #5320
    You just got served THE CALLISTO SPECIAL
    SASSAGE KING OF DA WORLD
    cheap hawks gay

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    26,424
    BG Level
    10

    Quote Originally Posted by seiji View Post
    haste+3
    enmity+4 (mdt-2)

    for flash or other hate casting?
    Assuming this is Dusk hands vs. Iron Ram Dastanas? I would take the Haste personally, against many fodder mobs like Dynamis/Limbus/Einherjar I'd rather the better shot of having recasts up again by the time(if not a few seconds before so I can pre-cast) I'm on the next mob, and in longer fights once you get up near the hate cap you'll want lower recasts over more enmity per to cover your decaying CE.

Page 266 of 269 FirstFirst ... 216 256 264 265 266 267 268 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. What's Better?
    By isladar in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 1466
    Last Post: 2009-10-22, 13:44
  2. What's Better?
    By isladar in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 871
    Last Post: 2009-08-27, 15:39
  3. Whats Better? II
    By Falisa in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 503
    Last Post: 2009-07-21, 08:26