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    Re: Whats better?

    No crit WS worth using, and no option with anywhere near such a delicious packaging of stats says Destroyers will lose out.

    10 acc and better damage alone would probably seal the deal, everything else on them is just gravy.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Mountain Gaiters (STR+2) vs. Federation Kyahan (Att.+4) during WS @SAM37?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jakson
    Mountain Gaiters (STR+2) vs. Federation Kyahan (Att.+4) during WS @SAM37?
    I'd take the gaiters, would only be missing out on 3 Attack and 2 STR is a decent chunk at that level.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushii
    crossbowman's ring (ratt+5) or STR+3 ring? For WS and reg rngd attacks.

    Also, Marine M Boots (STR+3 AGI+2) or AF feet (AGI+4) for general use on RNG. Keep in mind the price tag on boots.
    If you don't swap, STR+3. If you like pressing lots of buttons, ratt+5 for TP, str for WS. and yes. boots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Quote Originally Posted by Jakson
    Mountain Gaiters (STR+2) vs. Federation Kyahan (Att.+4) during WS @SAM37?
    I'd take the gaiters, would only be missing out on 3 Attack and 2 STR is a decent chunk at that level.
    Thank you.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Should I sell http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=15292&sid=1
    For
    http://ffxi.wikia.com/wiki/Forest_Rope

    I'm elvaan blm of course so the -1int can hurt but I think -1int for 60mp is a decent trade. Any input?

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    Re: Whats better?

    I'm an elvaan RDM so I know how it is to need +INT. I went through the same debate, stuck with Penitent's Rope (because it fulfilled +MND and +INT) and never looked back. 60 MP is nice, yes, but Pentient's Rope wins in the end.

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    Re: Whats better?

    If gil isn't an issue, you could keep both, use the rse rope as a first nuke piece, going towards a "free" nuke setup. The droprate of p rope is pretty nice, can be duo'd with whm and nin also.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by gandorf
    Should I sell http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=15292&sid=1
    For
    http://ffxi.wikia.com/wiki/Forest_Rope

    I'm elvaan blm of course so the -1int can hurt but I think -1int for 60mp is a decent trade. Any input?
    I use the Ocean Rope over Penitent's Rope as a hume, I would use Penitent's if I had one also, but I'm comfortable with one less INT, and 45 more MP.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turambar
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny
    Avocat Pigaches(3 enfeeb skill) vs Goliard Clogs(4 INT 2 m.acc) overall on RDM, I only have inventory space for one of them(though I own both).

    Edit: to be clear, not throwing one out, just don't have space to carry it in my standard solo gear
    If it's for soloing, you've probably got all the enfeebling skill, magic accuracy, and INT you need naked with 0 merits. If it really has to be one of them though, I'd say the Goliard is definitely better, for the +4 DEX, +4 MND, and +5 Evasion.

    EDIT: The Goliards are probably better for non-solo play too, since you'll have enough +skill from AF body, torque, etc. for most things, anyways.

    What about for BLM? My Enfeebling skills is at low 275 atm with 10 M acc from Morrigan's cuffs, Goliard Feet, and Omega Ring. ;x Can add 8 more from merits and 12 from Genie Head/Legs, Enf Cape/Torque, Af1+1. So roughly I will end up at 295~

    Would Goliard still be better? Also Morrigan's cuffs/ 5 M acc vs Oracle's cuff 5 Enf skills, which is better for blm at 275 and 295 skills? I do believe Goliard feet and Morrigan's cuff ( <3 <3 <3 M acc! ) are better than Avocat's feet and Ocacle's cuffs, but a friend said Blm's enf skills are pretty low so it is better to stack Enf more first than M acc...

    Thoughts?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Binaa
    Quote Originally Posted by Turambar
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny
    Avocat Pigaches(3 enfeeb skill) vs Goliard Clogs(4 INT 2 m.acc) overall on RDM, I only have inventory space for one of them(though I own both).

    Edit: to be clear, not throwing one out, just don't have space to carry it in my standard solo gear
    If it's for soloing, you've probably got all the enfeebling skill, magic accuracy, and INT you need naked with 0 merits. If it really has to be one of them though, I'd say the Goliard is definitely better, for the +4 DEX, +4 MND, and +5 Evasion.

    EDIT: The Goliards are probably better for non-solo play too, since you'll have enough +skill from AF body, torque, etc. for most things, anyways.

    What about for BLM? My Enfeebling skills is at low 275 atm with 10 M acc from Morrigan's cuffs, Goliard Feet, and Omega Ring. ;x Can add 8 more from merits and 12 from Genie Head/Legs, Enf Cape/Torque, Af1+1. So roughly I will end up at 295~

    Would Goliard still be better? Also Morrigan's cuffs/ 5 M acc vs Oracle's cuff 5 Enf skills, which is better for blm at 275 and 295 skills? I do believe Goliard feet and Morrigan's cuff ( <3 <3 <3 M acc! ) are better than Avocat's feet and Ocacle's cuffs, but a friend said Blm's enf skills are pretty low so it is better to stack Enf more first than M acc...

    Thoughts?
    I think the Goliard would probably still be better. Even without extensive testing of m.acc vs. skill vs. stat, I suspect that the accuracy difference between 4 INT + 2 m.acc and 3 skill is negligible at best.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Aurum Sabatons or Unicorn Leggings (assume white HP a majority of the time)? Wondering if I should sell my Uni after I get Aurum so I'd have enough for a Toreador Ring. Right now I have 22% haste with Unicorn if that matters. For /NIN I have Maneater/Ridill and for /SAM I have Perdu with a 6-hit setup. I've been going over it in my head and it really seems to me that in any non-capped accuracy situation Aurum would be the winner. Trading 1% haste for 6-7 acc depending on weapon seems like a good exchange.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Aurum seems to be an ok upgrade from NQ dusk or unicorn, unless of course your accuracy is nearly capped and you have either dusk+1 or unicorn+1. They are just so damn ugly though!

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    I'd use Aurum over anything but Uni +1, and I'd keep Aurum around to macro from Uni +1 > Aurum if I got hit... I blink a lot anyways, and could find somewhere to work that into my macro setup/timing I'm sure.

    7.2~ Acc by itself is appealing, 3 Dex towards 118 when meriting is sexy, 2% Haste makes me wet, and 5 Att is just gravy.

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    Re: Whats better?

    enkidu's mittens: str+4 dex+4 r.acc+5 acc+5

    how do they stack up against bandomusha kote for nin WS and seiryu's kote for RNG WS?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Meat build, Berserk up, no AF +1 tekko? Cool for Jin.

    Not sure about 15 Agi on a 40% Agi mod Rng WS vs 4 Str 5 Racc, but it doesn't feel good in my head.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Just wanting to see if anyone has parsed these 2 weapons in endgame/EXP parties
    and if so which one is indeed the better GS for drks?

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    Re: Whats better?

    What 2 weapons.

    You seem to have forgotten to add that little detail.

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    Re: Whats better?

    He's talking about Naglering and Subduer.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mythical
    Just wanting to see if anyone has parsed these 2 weapons in endgame/EXP parties
    and if so which one is indeed the better GS for drks?
    Algol is better than Subduer so your question should be whether or not Naglering is better than Algol.

    If you really want to ask whether or not it's better than a Subduer well, as a DRK myself, let's just say it should painfully obvious to you.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Quote Originally Posted by Mythical
    Just wanting to see if anyone has parsed these 2 weapons in endgame/EXP parties
    and if so which one is indeed the better GS for drks?
    Algol is better than Subduer so your question should be whether or not Naglering is better than Algol.

    If you really want to ask whether or not it's better than a Subduer well, as a DRK myself, let's just say it should painfully obvious to you.
    If it was obvious to me i wouldnt ask... i havent played drk... in about 2 years and no longer have the character that even has my drk 75... and main mage atm so wont take time to lvl it again to test it out. Plus some in my ls argu with me... so this is also to point it out to them
    IMO i think Naglering is better but i may be wrong(although i doubt it)

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