Whats better?

[Khrno]

I agree with the above poster, if the bonnet had Acc or Dex, It would be a worthy piece over Turban, much like Askar is for a GA WAR to some extent, but that extra attack will not make a difference when you are hitting 1% slower, you might as well use it if you are actually tanking something since it has eva/agi.

[Zilong]

Assuming that I'm gunning for DEX build on colibri, would 118 DEX from spear strap be better than 115 DEX + 3% critical hits with claymore?

[Tan]

Assuming that I'm gunning for DEX build on colibri, would 118 DEX from spear strap be better than 115 DEX + 3% critical hits with claymore?

No, as the +3% crit hit from Claymore will raise your Crit hit % above the capped value.

[Rama]

For RNG Sidewinder

Hachiryu haidate Rare
[Legs] All Races
DEF: 42 STR +10 Attack +5
Enhances "Zanshin" effect
Set: Enhances "Store TP" effect

or

Pahluwan Seraweels RareExclusive
[Legs] All Races
DEF: 36 STR +3 Accuracy +4
Ranged Accuracy +4
Set: Enhances "Subtle Blow" Effect

...then the hachiryu pants will be better than pahluwhan but I would probably use pahluwhan because of the accuracy personally.

Revisiting this, I'd say the Hachi pants win outright. A comparison of 4R.acc vs 7STR is no comparison at all IMO. If you need the acc, drop a flame for a Behemoth ring +1 or w/e (5STR -> 12R.acc, much better trade). Of course, I guess if you need a "Max ACC" build for something extremely evasive go back to the pants.

[Amele]

No, as the +3% crit hit from Claymore will raise your Crit hit % above the capped value.

based on the data on searain's website, he shows a delta of 2.6%~ crit from 115 to 118 dex. so.. the claymore will raise you more (by about .4%)

note that if you were going from say, 110 to 113 (where the knee from 17.5 to 20%+ is) it would be better to use the +dex, because you'd get about 3.5% crit boost.


all absolute numbers listed based on searain's data; which includes +4% from crit rate boosts; but otherwise isn't sweetened by other +crit gear/traits/abilities.

[Tan]

based on the data on searain's website, he shows a delta of 2.6%~ crit from 115 to 118 dex. so.. the claymore will raise you more (by about .4%)

note that if you were going from say, 110 to 113 (where the knee from 17.5 to 20%+ is) it would be better to use the +dex, because you'd get about 3.5% crit boost.


all absolute numbers listed based on searain's data; which includes +4% from crit rate boosts; but otherwise isn't sweetened by other +crit gear/traits/abilities.

Was this the website of the guy who found the Crit tiers? Also whats the link to that? And I thought the final capped Crit % was 20% and then gear and or merits would raise you above that cap?

[Amele]

Was this the website of the guy who found the Crit tiers? Also whats the link to that? And I thought the final capped Crit % was 20% and then gear and or merits would raise you above that cap?

even if it is, his numbers include +4% from merits so you wouldn't be at cap yet at ~118 on g.colibri.

I just googled searain and crit to find it again, it's something like: seaseaseasea.livejournal.com

it was convenient since we were already talking g.colibri, but if you want to divorce the rates from the target- g.colibri agi is 67.

[Tan]

even if it is, his numbers include +4% from merits so you wouldn't be at cap yet at ~118 on g.colibri.

I just googled searain and crit to find it again, it's something like: seaseaseasea.livejournal.com

it was convenient since we were already talking g.colibri, but if you want to divorce the rates from the target- g.colibri agi is 67.

Its cool I wasn't questioning your conclusions, just was interested in seeing the actual data was all, and if it was the same from one of the threads floating around here about the MNK who did the Crit hit build (couldn't remember his name).

[Amele]

Its cool I wasn't questioning your conclusions, just was interested in seeing the actual data was all, and if it was the same from one of the threads floating around here about the MNK who did the Crit hit build (couldn't remember his name).

that could be any of alot of people lol. sea was involved in the early tests though and has the most readily accessible documentation (at least, that I can still find!)

[Scorp]

I know i've seen this discussed before but can't find it... also it may have been before the last 2h update.

Martial GAxe or Perdu GAxe for merits and for hnm.

Personally I'm inclined to go with Martial if you tp off X before ws'ing on HNM. Martial for merits. Perdu for zerg or full time on hnm.

Thoughts?

(my gear is pretty generic - no ebody/ no ares /no torque /no hq haste).

[Raen Ryong]

I'm not a WAR, but there aren't many situations that I'd use a Martial Bhuj over a Perdu Voulge. Probably only situations where you spam Steel Cyclone (not merits) and even then...

[Khrno]

Not worth it unless you are war/thf and even so, war/sam might as well do more damage.

There was a time (2005) when I used to DRK/THF with a Martial Scythe and SATA Spiral Hell @ 200% TP, those times are gone.

I know the case with RR and Guillotine are different so RR does adctually benefits from more TP, however the loss on dot doesn't justify the (i'm just going to say any number) 150-200 dmg more you could get.

Definitively the only good TP bonus weapon is Hagun, all others have too low dmg compared to the better options, and against Perdu you are losing the acc/att during the TP phase that you will actually benefit more from.

[Jaceot]

For thief

P. Harpe/X's or X's/Blau

in context of merit parties, and high level mobs like Kings and gods.

Please say X's/Blau because P harpe just droped 2 nights in a row and i didnt end up with either of them....

[Tythera]

I'd use X/Blau myself

[Secksi]

I'd use X/Blau myself

^

[Slott]

X's/blau should outdo pharpe/x's.

[Max™]

I know i've seen this discussed before but can't find it... also it may have been before the last 2h update.

Martial GAxe or Perdu GAxe for merits and for hnm.

Personally I'm inclined to go with Martial if you tp off X before ws'ing on HNM. Martial for merits. Perdu for zerg or full time on hnm.

Thoughts?

(my gear is pretty generic - no ebody/ no ares /no torque /no hq haste).

Mbhuj is fun.

It's great in sky, dyna, ein, lots of places where targets have really high def/agi and your crit rate is gonna be pooptastic.

War/Thf in sky was really fun, and I used Bhuj to keep myself alive during Kirin burns, instead of spamming a 300% DA SC > RR's, I'd do a 200% SC > Med > 200% DA SC.

Wound up with similar damage, but without getting me deadly hold spammed to open the fight.

Sadly, I sold mine, don't do a lot of sky, fuck dynamis, and would rather have the gil for other things.

I do miss it though, will probably get it back when I get some more gil.

[wiggly]

Fuma's or Dusk feet for a Sam's tp set meriting?

[Amele]

Fuma's or Dusk feet for a Sam's tp set meriting?

4 attack is going to be about +1% dps (closer to 1.25%) if you have at least 25% haste (gear/spells/songs/hasso/etc) the extra 1% haste from fuma is going to be 1.5% dps.

since haste spell, swift belt, and haidate is already 24%; you'd be hard pressed to find a sam who *wasn't* at least at 25%.

[anathema]

for raging rush:

aurum gauntlets vs hecatomb mittens?

also, what do you guys think is better overall - dex or str build for raging rush (i.e. thunder vs flame ring)