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    Quote Originally Posted by Amele View Post
    conventional wisdom is process A, which lines up with other behaviors in XI (like using tons of evasion- gear to increase guard or parry skillup rates etc)

    generally the order is assumed to be: evade > parry > shadow > shield > counter > guard

    although the order is directly altered by Seigan (counter and parry both above anticipate, evasion goes away etc.)
    I don't think shield would be before counter that seems unlike since counter is full damage negate it would make more sense being before shield's chance to trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfknight View Post
    I don't think shield would be before counter that seems unlike since counter is full damage negate it would make more sense being before shield's chance to trigger.
    shield used to be a full block. I haven't really heard anyone discuss it since it was changed.

    if you know someone with counter and shield who wants to test I'd love to see it lol

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    Wait, would reprisal make parsing block rate easier? I just got it but I think spikes proc every time you block a hit. So can't you use a parser to parse the spike proc??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupunpupun View Post
    Wait, would reprisal make parsing block rate easier? I just got it but I think spikes proc every time you block a hit. So can't you use a parser to parse the spike proc??
    Reprisal also increases shield block rate, so it would alter results. Unless we know exactly how much it increases block rate by (which we don't) it wouldn't help much.

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    is spectral belt the best easily-obtainable -enmity waist for whm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anathema View Post
    is spectral belt the best easily-obtainable -enmity waist for whm?
    If you know anyone who spams RvB assault for salvage points, ask them to save their ??? sash for you (assuming they don't want it), can be Theta sash (-5 enm).

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    Penitent's rope is -3 and wearable by a WHM. You can BCNM it easily or buy from AH. Obviously not quite as much -EMN as spectral but does have MND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlasion View Post
    Reprisal also increases shield block rate, so it would alter results. Unless we know exactly how much it increases block rate by (which we don't) it wouldn't help much.
    And you can't keep it up 100% of the time, so it would completely screw up results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferien View Post
    And you can't keep it up 100% of the time, so it would completely screw up results.
    No, it weren't because parser would only record the spike effect from reprisal. We would only get the block rate when reprisal is up but it would still be the easiest way to parse blocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rama View Post
    If you know anyone who spams RvB assault for salvage points, ask them to save their ??? sash for you (assuming they don't want it), can be Theta sash (-5 enm).
    Since we started doing RvB, we must have seen at least half a dozen of these. Long since past the point where everyone in our static who wanted one had one. I'm sure there are plenty of others in the same boat. We like to say "There's our Divisor Ring!" every time we "successfully" appraise an earring or sash (having long since given up after 0/many rings).

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    For pentathrusting colibris, assuming no polearm merit on SAM with maybe 1 madrigal, I would like to know what'd be the best option for the following slots.

    Head: Hissho Hachimaki or Optical hat
    Hands: Myochin Kote +1 or Usukane Gote
    Belt: Life Belt or Warwolf Belt
    Leg: Usukane Hizayoroi or Byakko's Haidate

    much help would be appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakthi View Post
    Since we started doing RvB, we must have seen at least half a dozen of these. Long since past the point where everyone in our static who wanted one had one. I'm sure there are plenty of others in the same boat. We like to say "There's our Divisor Ring!" every time we "successfully" appraise an earring or sash (having long since given up after 0/many rings).
    we've only seen one sash and we've been doing 6-10/wk rvb runs between all the shellmembers lol

    edit: maybe this means I should be doing divisors instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilong View Post
    For pentathrusting colibris, assuming no polearm merit on SAM with maybe 1 madrigal, I would like to know what'd be the best option for the following slots.

    Head: Hissho Hachimaki or Optical hat
    Hands: Myochin Kote +1 or Usukane Gote
    Belt: Life Belt or Warwolf Belt
    Leg: Usukane Hizayoroi or Byakko's Haidate

    much help would be appreciated
    Head: Hissho. Gotta love attack on the multi hits
    Hands: I don't have either of those. I use Bkote
    Belt: Life belt
    Legs: As much as I love my usu legs, thats just too much acc to give up not using byakko's, but on the plus side, its a mod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilong View Post
    For pentathrusting colibris, assuming no polearm merit on SAM with maybe 1 madrigal, I would like to know what'd be the best option for the following slots.

    Head: Hissho Hachimaki or Optical hat
    Hands: Myochin Kote +1 or Usukane Gote
    Belt: Life Belt or Warwolf Belt
    Leg: Usukane Hizayoroi or Byakko's Haidate

    much help would be appreciated
    Hissho Hachimaki
    Myochin Kote +1
    Potent belt(beats both if u ask me, other wise life belt)
    Personally I'd say Usukane Hizayoroi(or maybe shura)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfknight View Post
    Potent belt(beats both if u ask me, other wise life belt)
    2 Accuracy >>>>>>>>>>> 3 STR on multi-hit WS, especially when the weapon you're using only has 240 skill.

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    Well in all honesty, sam af2 belt would be best choice for penta imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Well in all honesty, sam af2 belt would be best choice for penta imo
    agreed I didn't think of it lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruiner View Post
    2 Accuracy >>>>>>>>>>> 3 STR on multi-hit WS, especially when the weapon you're using only has 240 skill.
    Eh, first off, if you're using polearm in a bird party, you really should be asking the bard for Madrigal, and should be easily parsing at 85% accuracy with that. That's with full haste gear on (W. Turban, Swift Belt, etc). You're already gaining some accuracy in your WS I assume switching to either of the listed helms, Potent Life or AF2 Belt, Something in Hand Slot, and potentially a sea gorget. I think with those assumptions, you can afford to not focus 100% on accuracy in your WS set. Don't ignore it, but look to gain some str and/or dex where possible.

    Furthermore, Hachiryu Kote is probably the best bet for hand slot.

    Anyway, if the rest of your gear is in top notch and you can swing a madrigal, I'd say AF Potent and Warwolf are all up there. Without Madrigal...I really think you should do some parsing, there is a good chance with march/minuet you will parse higher (or at worst case the same) with a Hagun than with a Polearm.

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    Which is better for spinning slash on DRK? chs. hands+1 or alky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rama View Post
    If you know anyone who spams RvB assault for salvage points, ask them to save their ??? sash for you (assuming they don't want it), can be Theta sash (-5 enm).
    oh yeah! forgot about this one. thanks!

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