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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    RNG Bolts for TP/WS? I have acid/holy/venom/darksteel to choose from, no dedicated holy bolt build though. Acid for TP, Darksteel for WS?
    Shoot an Acid bolt at the start of a fight, TP in Holy bolt, WS in Darksteel. Or all out on darksteel if you're feeling like shooting more gil. Depends on the mob and if they're resistant to the acid/holy bolt add. effects. Personally, I try to TP in Holy bolts while maintaining the def. down, but thats just me. I switch bolts a lot.

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    whats better, NQ Choral Cannions or Sha'ir Seraweels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeman View Post
    Shoot an Acid bolt at the start of a fight, TP in Holy bolt, WS in Darksteel. Or all out on darksteel if you're feeling like shooting more gil. Depends on the mob and if they're resistant to the acid/holy bolt add. effects. Personally, I try to TP in Holy bolts while maintaining the def. down, but thats just me. I switch bolts a lot.
    I'm doing the same, and it's working great, Acid at start to pull and shoot until def is weakend, then I switch to Holy for TPing and I barrage and WS in darksteel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    RNG Bolts for TP/WS? I have acid/holy/venom/darksteel to choose from, no dedicated holy bolt build though. Acid for TP, Darksteel for WS?

    That got me thinking...what would a good build be for using Holy Bolts? I mean, I dont know if you need to get nuts with it, but what would be some good choices to boost the dmg

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    75 PLD doing endgame

    After DM I picked Knight's earring but someone told me I should have picked Suppa without any reasons. Opinions please?

    On an unrelated note: 5/5VIT for rampart sentinel mods or 5/5AGI for shield and stuff for a career PLD

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    I'm leaning towards the reason being that they're midly retarded. I guess the 4 acc/5 atk for when you're idling for extra TP/damage but Knightly you're basically going to swap in when you'd swap in a Buckler, and you get more skill than with Buckler. And spending the amount of points needed to max out 5 VIT is huge for the almost 0 return you get out of it, if every other helfpful area is already merited then it'd be decent, but I would put that as far back at the end of the line as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    I'm leaning towards the reason being that they're midly retarded. I guess the 4 acc/5 atk for when you're idling for extra TP/damage but Knightly you're basically going to swap in when you'd swap in a Buckler, and you get more skill than with Buckler. And spending the amount of points needed to max out 5 VIT is huge for the almost 0 return you get out of it, if every other helfpful area is already merited then it'd be decent, but I would put that as far back at the end of the line as possible.
    Knight's Earring, not knightly. Shield skil +5 Divine magic skill +5 Vit+2 VS AGI+2 "Enhances Dual Wield effect" sword skill +5

    Almost done meriting that's why I ask for the VIT or AGI.

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    Seiryu's Kote vs. Usukane Gote vs. Denali Wristbands for a NIN/DRK oh shit/shadows down setup?

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    I'd use Seiryu's personally- the agi and HP are outstanding. Really depends if you use an evasion ohshi setup or a turtle ohshi setup though- if you use evasion I could see a case for Usukane I guess... but even then I'd probably still wear Seiryu :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneJackit View Post
    That got me thinking...what would a good build be for using Holy Bolts? I mean, I dont know if you need to get nuts with it, but what would be some good choices to boost the dmg
    Kirin's Osode and Suzaku's sune-ate and a Faith Torque is what I use normally. Scout's Beret is another 4 mnd, though I don't always use that.

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    For my War/Sam G.axe ws what's better for merit considering colibris and mamools:

    I have 8/8 g.axe merits, 3/3 aggressor/berserk, 4/4 DA, 3 str, 4/4 critical.

    WS Gear: heca. head/hands/feets, hauby+1 (wondering if osode would be good for ws), snow gorget, brutal,forager,warwolf,haidate,rajas,bomblet, perdu with pole grip.

    With Flame ring:

    STR 69 + 48
    DEX 68 + 46

    With Spinel/Thunder ring:

    STR 69 + 43
    DEX 68 + 50/51

    With Osode and Spinel/Thunder ring: (thinking to use this setup for colibri with aggressor/berserk up)

    STR 69 + 47
    DEX 68 + 54/55

    Any inputs which combos would be better for me, would be appreciated thx.

    Edit: i put spinel/thunder because i have spinel atm, not sure if +1 from thunder will make a difference.

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    if i were you I'd stick with haub+1 and go with s flame/acc ring. Osode is pretty much only good for steel cyclone(don't hold me to this since i haven't played war in forever, but its pretty much what i was told). Otherwise I'd say that's a really good setup.

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    What's better, Hachiryu Kote or Enkidu's Mittens for Blade: Jin?

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    In general, Enkidu's mittens. If your acc is below a certain point or you believe in DEX tiers, hachiryu kote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    In general, Enkidu's mittens. If your acc is below a certain point or you believe in DEX tiers, hachiryu kote.
    1 str is almost exactly equal to 2 dex as far as base weapon damage goes (ignoring acc and attk). If by "certain point" you meant "accuracy cap", then perhaps, but even so, if you're saying you don't believe in dex tiers, doesn't that mean you actually believe in increased crit rate for every point of dex?

    In any case, its going to be ~2 attack and .5 weapon damage vs 3 accuracy and 6dex worth of crit. I think it depends a lot on what gear you have in other slot, but I think Hachiryu Kote is likely a better tradeoff. I think you can get more than 1 str for a 3 accuracy loss somewhere else.

    And I'm calling the Subtle Blow Bonus for WS only about as useful as the Zanshin bonus! ;p

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    mmm, that's why i shouldn't post while half asleep. I didn't say anything about my beliefs on the subject, because I've never seen any parses that were very convincing either way. If dex tiers exist and hachi isn't bringing you to a new one, enkidu wins. As far as the acc, NIN gets quite a few ws mod pieces that still have heavy acc bonuses and should keep your WS acc capped or close to it(shura head, hauby/+1, enkidu mitts, byakkos, denali shoes, minuet earing, lack of a good ranged means bomblet for ws).. though if you don't have katana merits or are using meat w/o madrigal you should definitely change to hachi before potent belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    mmm, that's why i shouldn't post while half asleep. I didn't say anything about my beliefs on the subject, because I've never seen any parses that were very convincing either way. If dex tiers exist and hachi isn't bringing you to a new one, enkidu wins. As far as the acc, NIN gets quite a few ws mod pieces that still have heavy acc bonuses and should keep your WS acc capped or close to it(shura head, hauby/+1, enkidu mitts, byakkos, denali shoes, minuet earing, lack of a good ranged means bomblet for ws).. though if you don't have katana merits or are using meat w/o madrigal you should definitely change to hachi before potent belt.
    Yea, like I said, depends on other gear...but like you said, if you are using a Potent, switching Potent to Warwolf and using Hachiryu is better overall (and Voyager is slightly better than NQ Shura head -if- you are acc capped...so Voyager+Hachiryu is going to barely be better than Shura+Enkidu if you are acc capped in both situations)

    Depends on way too much outside of the piece which is better. And in most situations, 1 piece won't show a huge difference on a parse, but when you start adding together good decisions, it makes a difference in the end.

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    Since I'm poor and don't have linkshells to get better gear yet; Cobra Unit Gloves (MAB+2) or Errant Cuffs (+5INT) for nuking? (SCH)

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    Viscious Muffler(MAB+5) aren't too hard to get.
    I killed bloodlapper with 6 and no problems using PLD/NIN tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XingCai View Post
    Since I'm poor and don't have linkshells to get better gear yet; Cobra Unit Gloves (MAB+2) or Errant Cuffs (+5INT) for nuking? (SCH)
    INT > MAB for helixes hands down.
    Personally, I'd go with the Yigit gloves (and boots for that matter) if you can get them. As I fully realize 5 MAB > 5 int + 2 MAB for a BLM, the int helps make up for the lower elemental skill scholars get somewhat. I've seen no good formulae for magic accuracy (especially in regards to int), but if it's 2 int = 1 skill/mac roughly, then I think the int is more important.

    In any case, 5 int > 2 MAB for sure, if you have no access to Yigit either. And finally uhhhh, Yigit or Viscious are end-of-the-line for scholar. There is no better gear for those slots.

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