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    Quote Originally Posted by SephYuyX View Post
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    Yigit trump Gaiters so completely, I'm not sure how this debate came up.

    As for the body, Genie > Oracle's > NQ Weskit.

    Although Oracle's is very nice to have, as it replaces Mahatma Body for my resting macro, and since I don't have Nashira/Goliard body, it goes in my Dark Magic macro as well.

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    Light Buckler.

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    Trying to choose between belts for Flash on PLD, I'm ghettofied with Quick Belt atm because Swifts are evil, but I also have Trance Belt. Just curious what will create more hate overall, 2% Haste vs. +4 Enm.

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    Black Cuisses vs Ares Flanchard for Weapon skill? (Dark Knight)

    4 STR, 14 attack vs 6 STR, 6 DEX, -3 INT, -3 MND, DA +2%

    Remember that INT and MND are mods of Dark Knight WSs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    Trying to choose between belts for Flash on PLD, I'm ghettofied with Quick Belt atm because Swifts are evil, but I also have Trance Belt. Just curious what will create more hate overall, 2% Haste vs. +4 Enm.
    i would use trance till you get swift

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    Completed Usukane Somen last night. Have been using W. Turban and Usukane legs, should I switch the Usukane legs back to Byakko's Haidate now that I am using Usukane Somen? That is my plan as of now, but always looking for more input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    Completed Usukane Somen last night. Have been using W. Turban and Usukane legs, should I switch the Usukane legs back to Byakko's Haidate now that I am using Usukane Somen? That is my plan as of now, but always looking for more input.
    why weren't you using haidate in the first place? seriously. until you've got the full set, haidate are better in TP mode for all reasonable cases.

    (depending on job, usu legs may be best for ws;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amele View Post
    why weren't you using haidate in the first place? seriously. until you've got the full set, haidate are better in TP mode for all reasonable cases.

    (depending on job, usu legs may be best for ws
    Sorry, this was for MNK to clarify. The logic was actually pretty simple, I used to use B. Haidate and Dune Boots, then I got Usukane legs and feet, which have the same amount of haste but much better stats, compared to the old pairing. I would understand individually each piece, but as a pair compared to the old pairing it was what I preferred. This was only compounded when I got my Usukane hands. I did keep my B. Haidate around for low accuracy situations, but I rarely ever found a need for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmancilla View Post
    Drachen Brais +1 or Aurum Cuisses for Penta?

    Basically 9 accuracy vs. STR+4 Attk -4 accuracy +7
    I'd use Aurum, but if you have gil look into getting some Dusk Trousers, they're better than either if you can live without the accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    Sorry, this was for MNK to clarify. The logic was actually pretty simple, I used to use B. Haidate and Dune Boots, then I got Usukane legs and feet, which have the same amount of haste but much better stats, compared to the old pairing. I would understand individually each piece, but as a pair compared to the old pairing it was what I preferred. This was only compounded when I got my Usukane hands. I did keep my B. Haidate around for low accuracy situations, but I rarely ever found a need for them.
    yes but; usukane sune-ate and b.haidate is a superior pairing to usukane sune-ate and usukane hizarayoi...

    there's not like a partial set bonus or anything, and when it's more haste -and- more acc there's no question.

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    Not really worth losing 5 acc and 2 haste for 10 attack 5 str. Only time I TP in usu legs is in salvage vs non megaboss mobs because I have imperial ring which would keep me at capped hasted regardless of which of the 2 pants I wer. On the boss though, I like the acc because I eat meat, so I swap back to my traditional set up for tanking chariots.

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    3 gear questions for my war:

    Maneater/ Ridill/ Fire Bomblet
    W. Turban/ P charm/ Suppa/ Brutal
    Adaman/ Dusk gloves +1/ Rajas Ring/ Sniper's +1
    Forager's/ Speed/ B. Haidate/ Aurum

    Based on that gear set would I be better off with a Jugg or does Maneater win.

    Would another Sniper's +1 outperform the Rajas ring.

    I'm fairly sure about this one but Dusk +1 feet would outdo Aurum?

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    I'd stick with a Maneater, the added acc considering you'r off-handing a Sword is nice and the higher base dmg is great as well. Since I got Aurum I've never looked back, the only feet wear I would consider using over them would be Uni+1's, I think again the ACC and other stats far outweigh the 1% haste from Dusk+1. I think you'd be better parsing your ACC in different situations to decide for yourself wether you need the added ACC from the sinper+1.

    One thing tho, altho don't have a Ridill myself I often read that a lot of Ridill users don't use Brutal Earring and use Assault ot Howling instead, something to do with stacking DA lowers your Ridill's chance of TA happening. Could be wrond but I'm sure I've read it a few times here.

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    I think you're underestimating the value of 1% haste in a normal merit, event situation where I will always have atleast 1 march and haste so I'm fairly sure dusk +1 would win by a fairly substantial amount.

    I don't understand why anyone would want Unicorn boots +1 over dusk +1. The more damage you do the more you're going to take hate and the less time you will spend in white hp (any comments about needing to find better mages will be disregarded).

    I've only just noticed the higher delay on Jugg so that leans me more towards Maneater but clarification would still be nice.

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    1) Maneater is better. Lower delay, more accuracy, more base damage. There's a reason that everyone uses one, and it's not just because Jugg is overpriced.

    2) Check to see if Rajas helps you shave off any hits. Even if it didn't, I'd probably still wear it to help on crits, but that's personal preference for merits. Anyway, you're still going to have a net acc gain if you keep rajas and switch to aurum, not to mention gaining 8 dex.

    3) Lol... you got an answer to your Aurum question and then argued against it

    If you already have your mind made up about dusk just wear them, but as Aragon said, parse both. I'd be willing to be that Aurum comes out ahead, especially if the dex helps your crits on colibri. And in other situations, the accuracy/attack will most likely still pull ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger View Post

    3) Lol... you got an answer to your Aurum question and then argued against it

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    Actually I didn't get an answer because I was hoping for something that was based on maths as opposed to eyeballing a parse. I have seen in previous threads roughly how much acc you would need (provided you aren't capped) to outdo a certain % of haste, but I have no idea on doing the maths myself.

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    No answer for my question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trime View Post
    Actually I didn't get an answer because I was hoping for something that was based on maths as opposed to eyeballing a parse. I have seen in previous threads roughly how much acc you would need (provided you aren't capped) to outdo a certain % of haste, but I have no idea on doing the maths myself.
    I know that is eyeballing, but I'm pretty sure +7 acc will outperform 1% of haste. If not, then why not use Blitz Ring over Sniper's Ring+1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vejitta View Post
    I know that is eyeballing, but I'm pretty sure +7 acc will outperform 1% of haste. If not, then why not use Blitz Ring over Sniper's Ring+1?
    Good point, maybe thats why blitz ring used to be like 5-10k and is now 200k, any poster here who can do the maths?

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    Unless you have damn near capped accuracy, 7acc is gonna win in pretty much any feasible situation. Can run the maths if you give Haste% without the other and the acc% without the 3~4% (7acc => %)...

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