August Update

[Credos]

Please take the portal back to Allakhazam.

I got my L1 items with a group of people all my level, without the help of a 75. You want to play FFXI and get shit done? Make friends; there are always going to be people in your level range. Limit quests are made to be an achievement; getting them done should mean something, not just given to you. What are they going to do for the Maat fight, have him hooked up to life support and all you need to do is pull the plug to beat him?

And finally, if you're going to complain about Limit 1, you probably should just quit the game now.

I was allready expecting this, but you know I dont care, if you cant see how G1 and G2 were bad designed thats your problem not mine.

So because something has bad drop rates now it's poorly designed? I guess that pretty much any mob that drops anything is poorly designed then.

Limit II is a joke; it's easily winnable by a small group of people. I agree that you don't see shouts as frequently anymore, but you also don't need 18 people to beat it either.

Edit: If you think it's hard getting the drop now, imagine 3 years ago when the mobs were camped.

[Tajin]

Heh, a few nights ago, some guy was doing G3, and i was on Qulun Dome (BLM/RDM) hanging with the turtles. He asks for help on the quest. I was like: "huh?, help on this, oh well, all i have to do is sleepga the turtles in case he screws up"; he was tagging along with i think two DRKs.

So, he gets the crest, and asks for a teleport-holla or mea, i even went into my magic menu -_-; . So i warp2 them, and say my goodbyes:

DudeOnG3: What, you not helping with the others?
me: uhh, you will be ok.

... some more stuff.

Some more stuff, but not a single please ;;

P.S. I got 2 of my G1 items on xp parties, all but the coal, and G2 a lvl75 NIN soloed it for me 8) (Thanks Guranimol if you read this :D )

[Credos]

Heh, a few nights ago, some guy was doing G3, and i was on Qulun Dome (BLM/RDM) hanging with the turtles. He asks for help on the quest. I was like: "huh?, help on this, oh well, all i have to do is sleepga the turtles in case he screws up"; he was tagging along with i think two DRKs.

So, he gets the crest, and asks for a teleport-holla or mea, i even went into my magic menu -_-; . So i warp2 them, and say my goodbyes:

DudeOnG3: What, you not helping with the others?
me: uhh, you will be ok.

... some more stuff.

Some more stuff, but not a single please ;;

P.S. I got 2 of my G1 items on xp parties, all but the coal, and G2 a lvl75 NIN soloed it for me 8) (Thanks Guranimol if you read this :D )

With the exception of Hellmines, you could totally exp off of the mobs too. This was how I got my L1 items and AF coffers.

[Max™]

Bst can exp off the mobs.

My Bst friend soloed GK1, Im convinced if there were charmable mobs even remotely worth using in Xarcarbard, he would have soloed GK2, since he did the two Bastok Sphinxes at 58... 60, along with the Minotaur for his PM's, solo.

[Gilanth]

And really who don't remember "I got my Papyrus, I gtg now" after 3 hours of liches, increasing the droprate isnt a bad thing same if they did coffer keys. What a boring crock'o'shite it was back in the day , 1-2 weeks trying to get G1 items is silly.

[Amele]

And really who don't remember "I got my Papyrus, I gtg now" after 3 hours of liches, increasing the droprate isnt a bad thing same if they did coffer keys. What a boring crock'o'shite it was back in the day , 1-2 weeks trying to get G1 items is silly.

increasing coffer key drops might actually make several of the coffers harder - since more keys means more people with a key to open a random chest they find - means less likely to find a chest already up when you go looking.

[Lordender]

kinda glad they are nerfing genkai because I knew so many people over the years who flat out quit over those retarded quest lines because they couldn't get groups to help them with g1 and g2. I think they should just remove all of them except the maat battle tbh. Genkai are a bunch of stupid fucking quests that turn people off from the game and probably has caused alot of people to quit.

[Xaetica]

And really who don't remember "I got my Papyrus, I gtg now" after 3 hours of liches, increasing the droprate isnt a bad thing same if they did coffer keys. What a boring crock'o'shite it was back in the day , 1-2 weeks trying to get G1 items is silly.

Yea no shit. I had two separate instances where the first person to win the lot on the paper was our only WHM, and they (in both instances) said: gtg bye! and warped out. Took me way to long to get the papyrus. To this day I still curse that damn drop.

[Intense]

This just further sets the tone of "What else can we get them to nerf for us?"

[Max™]

This just further sets the tone of "What else can we get them to nerf for us?"

Alla: Wahh, I can't get into an HNM Shell that can kill Fafnir but I want a Ridill.

SE after hearing this for 3 months: The monster Fafnir will no longer drop several items, these have been moved to (insert whichever BCNM/ISNM newbies can do easiest)

[Septimus]

This just further sets the tone of "What else can we get them to nerf for us?"

I'm just happy when nerfs don't involve making things worse for us.

[Intense]

This just further sets the tone of "What else can we get them to nerf for us?"

I'm just happy when nerfs don't involve making things worse for us.

While thats a valid point, its a sad one.

[Tajin]

which of the nerfs makes you sad?

[Nirokun!]

people who quit over genkai will still quit over CoP missions, run around with gimp gear, and find colibri "slow"

they need to go

[Intense]

people who quit over genkai will still quit over CoP missions, run around with gimp gear, and find colibri "slow"

they need to go

Maybe they will nerf CoP missions and add exp to them next!

[Sho]

people who quit over genkai will still quit over CoP missions, run around with gimp gear, and find colibri "slow"

they need to go

Maybe they will nerf CoP missions and add exp to them next!

I tell you, people still bitch about CoP still on my server.

[Amele]

people who quit over genkai will still quit over CoP missions, run around with gimp gear, and find colibri "slow"

they need to go

Maybe they will nerf CoP missions and add exp to them next!

I tell you, people still bitch about CoP still on my server.

I predict that people will stop bitching about CoP the same time that Redmages on FFXIO's forums stop requesting refreshga XLVII etc.

[Epyslon]

After reading all this only one question still lingers in my mind. WHAT type of endgame zone are we getting with ToAU. And will it be just mission dependent or will you need to be a certain assault rank as well. In the past when they have added the "Final" missions they have always released an endgame zone, (IE don't know about Sky, because it was already out at PS2 release). Anyone have any "Ideas" of what type of zone SE will implement for ToAU.


NOTE: Sheer Speculation.

[Bakthi]

kinda glad they are nerfing genkai because I knew so many people over the years who flat out quit over those retarded quest lines because they couldn't get groups to help them with g1 and g2. I think they should just remove all of them except the maat battle tbh. Genkai are a bunch of stupid fucking quests that turn people off from the game and probably has caused alot of people to quit.

G3 needs to be left in; perhaps one or two people will actually learn how to MGS.

I also did G4 without looking up the answers; it's pretty obviously a way to enourage people to have done quests, but of course the cheat sheet makes this unnecessary, which I'm sure is fine with most people. The only problem with quest-doing being rare is that sometimes there's one nasty fight for a not-particularly-profitable quest, and trying to get people to help results in "y lol".

[Max™]

After reading all this only one question still lingers in my mind. WHAT type of endgame zone are we getting with ToAU. And will it be just mission dependent or will you need to be a certain assault rank as well. In the past when they have added the "Final" missions they have always released an endgame zone, (IE don't know about Sky, because it was already out at PS2 release). Anyone have any "Ideas" of what type of zone SE will implement for ToAU.


NOTE: Sheer Speculation.

Hmmm.

RoZ, Dynamis, Sky
CoP, Limbus, Sea, CoP Dynamis
AU, Assault, Nyzul (different enough to be its own thing, I think), Salvage, Einherjar

Now, RMT's are infested in Sky, doing Dynamis regularly, I've yet to really hear of RMT Limbus, but while it wouldn't be that hard, the AF+1 stuff is one of the bigger draws, they're in Sea trying to make it profitable... and then, poof, Assault, can't get RMTs there, Nyzul.. nope, out of luck... Salvage? lol... Einherjar, maybe with their hordes of Blm's, but for what, possible Abjurations, and a restart at Odin?

So you want a untimed, quest accessed new zone for RMT to play in, preferably with monopolizable NMs on long timers, with a few good pieces of gear that RMT can try to cockblock for years?