Bachelor party in Vegas - any suggestions?

[Amastacia]

What a stick in the mud...

[Intense]

I just got home from work. You guys have been busy posters while I sat in traffic, lol. I think divisor is saying a lot of stuff he really doesnt know about. I think that is something small like a bachelor/bachelorette party has that capacity to break up a marriage, then one shouldnt be getting married in the first place. That shows a lot of immaturity, I think.

To say that having a bachelor party will doom or is proof of a dooming relationship is a very STRONG claim, and divisor hasnt really given enough proof other than his initial claim to be taken seriously.

[Intense]

Yeah, another thread he has completely shit on, I couldn't even read half of it and I was SOOOOO looking forward to some good suggestions.

Hey, I gave some...

[divisortheory]

Oh for fucks sake, let the men have their final hurrah. This coming from a woman:

Who cares? My sentiments have nothing to do with the women. You act like I think I'm standing up for women or something. Further evidence that it's a cultural thing and you don't get it. Which is fine, cultures are cultures, I just think this happens to be a particularly disgraceful aspect of american culture. You don't, great.

To archibald, the only one I've been to involved going to a strip club and the groom and everyone else (groom moreso than others) getting a bunch of lap dances. Nobody fucked anybody, yet somehow that isn't now and never was the point.

I think divisor is saying a lot of stuff he really doesnt know about

I think I know all about it. I think that neither you nor anyone else are getting the point that it doesn't matter if anyone fucks anyone, touches anyone, or whatever else. There are certain people in the world who simply would not have a bachelor party, and there are certain people who would. Why do you think this is? Could it be that, oh... The first group of people views relationships differently? Now, think about how they view relationships differently. That's what I'm talking about. If they view relationships exactly the same, then explain why one group of people would be opposed to bachelor parties and the other would embrace them.

[Ddz]

Oh for fucks sake, let the men have their final hurrah. This coming from a woman:

Who cares? My sentiments have nothing to do with the women. You act like I think I'm standing up for women or something. Further evidence that it's a cultural thing and you don't get it. Which is fine, cultures are cultures, I just think this happens to be a particularly disgraceful aspect of american culture. You don't, great.

To archibald, the only one I've been to involved going to a strip club and the groom and everyone else (groom moreso than others) getting a bunch of lap dances. Nobody fucked anybody, yet somehow that isn't now and never was the point.

I think divisor is saying a lot of stuff he really doesnt know about

I think I know all about it. I think that neither you nor anyone else are getting the point that it doesn't matter if anyone fucks anyone, touches anyone, or whatever else. There are certain people in the world who simply would not have a bachelor party, and there are certain people who would. Why do you think this is? Could it be that, oh... The first group of people views relationships differently? Now, think about how they view relationships differently. That's what I'm talking about. If they view relationships exactly the same, then explain why one group of people would be opposed to bachelor parties and the other would embrace them.

Your obvious distrust in yourself in that type of situation is really fucking LOUD in this thread. Just because you can't handle it doesn't mean every single guy can't. Accusers are all too often the ones to keep an eye on, I'm afraid.

[Intense]

Youre making claims, but are not backing yourself up. This is all I see.

[divisortheory]

Your obvious distrust in yourself in that type of situation is really fucking LOUD in this thread. Just because you can't handle it doesn't mean every single guy can't. Accusers are all too often the ones to keep an eye on, I'm afraid.

Further evidence that you just don't get it. Since when did "no interest in activity X" equal to "distrust in self"?

Youre making claims, but are not backing yourself up. This is all I see.

Backing up claims that I feel a certain way? It's me. Are you saying I have to prove that I have a certain opinion?

[Kuya]

Oh for fucks sake, let the men have their final hurrah. This coming from a woman:

Who cares? My sentiments have nothing to do with the women. You act like I think I'm standing up for women or something. Further evidence that it's a cultural thing and you don't get it. Which is fine, cultures are cultures, I just think this happens to be a particularly disgraceful aspect of american culture. You don't, great.

To archibald, the only one I've been to involved going to a strip club and the groom and everyone else (groom moreso than others) getting a bunch of lap dances. Nobody fucked anybody, yet somehow that isn't now and never was the point.

I think divisor is saying a lot of stuff he really doesnt know about

I think I know all about it. I think that neither you nor anyone else are getting the point that it doesn't matter if anyone fucks anyone, touches anyone, or whatever else. There are certain people in the world who simply would not have a bachelor party, and there are certain people who would. Why do you think this is? Could it be that, oh... The first group of people views relationships differently? Now, think about how they view relationships differently. That's what I'm talking about. If they view relationships exactly the same, then explain why one group of people would be opposed to bachelor parties and the other would embrace them.

WUT

yet somehow that isn't now and never was the point.

You never had a stable point, you only sead people who have bachelor parties are dumbasses.

. I think that neither you nor anyone else are getting the point that it doesn't matter if anyone fucks anyone, touches anyone, or whatever else.

Then how is it cheating?

[Ddz]

Your obvious distrust in yourself in that type of situation is really fucking LOUD in this thread. Just because you can't handle it doesn't mean every single guy can't. Accusers are all too often the ones to keep an eye on, I'm afraid.

Further evidence that you just don't get it. Since when did "no interest in activity X" equal to "distrust in self"?

Youre making claims, but are not backing yourself up. This is all I see.

Backing up claims that I feel a certain way? It's me. Are you saying I have to prove that I have a certain opinion?

You're talking about your experiences with these types of traditions in the past and how it's cheating and bla bla bla...and you're giving a deaf ear to everyone else's experiences in this thread.

[evilbau]

I think that neither you nor anyone else are getting the point that it doesn't matter if anyone fucks anyone, touches anyone, or whatever else.

I think some people get your point (like me) but you are trying to defend your opinion you brought to this thread which holds moral judgments. Just let it go...

[Creeps]

Why can't divisortheory just be banned already? No one gives two shits about your opinion. I'm pretty sure 90% of BG is sick of your bullshit. Just go away.

On topic, listen to Intense when he talks about clubs. The man knows what he's talking about.

[Exoduso]

Why can't divisortheory just be banned already? No one gives two shits about your opinion.

I'm losing brain cells every time I read his posts..

[Intense]

Youre making claims, but are not backing yourself up. This is all I see.

Backing up claims that I feel a certain way? It's me. Are you saying I have to prove that I have a certain opinion?

No, youre not just "giving your opinion." Youre making statements and then insulting those who believe otherwise.

[Intense]

Oh also, Nore.. If you or the girls dig sushi, there is this really nice place called "Ah Sin" at the Paris. Its a sit down place, across the street from The Bellagio. I dont know if you remember that hotel, but they have that cool water show every 30 minutes (It was shown at the end of Oceans Eleven.) GREAT FOOD, GREAT SAKE. :D

[Exoduso]

This doesn't have to do with the party, but just make sure you go eat at the Paris and the Wynn's Buffets before you leave Vegas...

[archibaldcrane]

Divisor - if the bachelor party involved shooting machine guns, getting drunk at clubs, driving nice cars down the freeway, and lots of gambling (read: no hookers or strippers) do you still feel that the desire to have one signifies a bad relationship?

Maybe you should elaborate on how you see relationships so that the rest of us can compare how we see them, and then possibly gain some sort of insight into how this pertains to a bachelor party. I'll say it again, it is (or at least it can be) mostly for the enjoyment of the groomsmen, often at the expense of the groom, and can in no way point to how the groom feels about the relationship with his bride.

[Exoduso]

I just can't stand the fact that he claims that if you have a bachelor party, you're bound to get divorced "eventually"... give me a fucking break.

[Semitry]

I'll recommend Shibuya at the MGM. Best sushi I've ever had anywhere.

[Intense]

I'll recommend Shibuya at the MGM. Best sushi I've ever had anywhere.

;o Ive never even heard of it..

[divisortheory]

Divisor - if the bachelor party involved shooting machine guns, getting drunk at clubs, driving nice cars down the freeway, and lots of gambling (read: no hookers or strippers) do you still feel that the desire to have one signifies a bad relationship?

No. But what's a bad relationship in my opinion clearly isn't in someone else's opinion. Which is fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I personally think it's no coincidence that America has one of, if not the highest divorce rate in the world. Does it mean that if everyone stopped having bachelor parties the divorce rate would go down? No, that's a logic failure, it's not a cause and effect relationship. Rather, I think bachelor parties are merely one of the many symptoms of a problem, and divorces are one of the many effects. Please make sure that sentence is clear. I don't view bachelor parties as a problem, only as a symptom of a more fundamental problem.

Maybe you should elaborate on how you see relationships so that the rest of us can compare how we see them, and then possibly gain some sort of insight into how this pertains to a bachelor party.

It's hard to elaborate on abstract concepts and philosophical views such as this, nonetheless I will think about it and try to quantify.


Edit: If everyone is gonna keep getting sand in their vaginas over the fact that I posted in a thread that I object to the moral premise of the thread, then be my guest and move this whole discussion to antoher thread called "Morality of Bachelor Parties".