UFO haiti video

[Kaylia]

Interesting link, but it's laking too many explanations to comment. Might be a scam like that time when they announced they "teleported" a photon. Well, wasnt a scam, but teleportation wasn't the word that should have been used.

Mathematics still can't account for all the mass in the universe. The movement, speed, direction, etc of galaxies still can't be fully explained by mathematics and it takes some curiously ad-hoc explanation like dark matter to explain it away. While some of it is totally believable (dwarf planets and other large non-luminous objects that we can't observe from earth), other concepts like some magical undiscovered substance that gives off no radiation and is totally and completely unobservable and cannot be proven to exist making up 70% of the mass of the universe...seems to me to be making up for our lack of understanding.

Your apparent view that current human understanding is infallible and anything that cannot currently be conceptualized or explained if it operates even a tiny bit outside of current principles is what's anti-scientific about this whole discussion.

My view is not that human understanding is infallible. You probably skipped through most of my post if you believe that, because I said multiple times it won't stop progressing. However, "understanding" and "technology" are two completely different things. Understanding gravity won't allow you to jump and stay up in the air, no matter how much you know about the topic, and it won't allow you to do many other things. Our science observes, find limits/equations, and prove their validity/accuracy for a certain window. If you want to do something within that window, you will have to follow the rules.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/9/6...180091d068.png Thing like this has been proven to work on matter up to 0.99c. Trace the graphic and tell me how it's possible to go faster than c? You won't break anything until you reach the infinity, but how can you do that? To go the relavitity level, you have to go throught Newton's level, and to reach what's above relativity, you will have to go throught relativity. We can already exclude "faster than light" travel for that. If direct traveling is impossible, can you connect point A to point B to speed up the traveling process, nothing indicate so.

I know about dark matter and mentioned it in almost every post already (since apparently, you just skiped through them). However, it's not a "magical" substance, and pretty much follow the same gravitational laws than us. Is it going to break our current models? Unlikely. There is many evidences pointing toward particles, and not a mistake in our gravitational models. Not saying it's the last model we have, but it's probably going to survive dark matter.

[Kuya]

This has got to be the most circular debate i've ever seen.