Battle System Adjustments (08/14/2007)

[Admo]

RNG got the change because SE broke them. Besides, I'm not looking for a change that "fixes" RDM. RDM doesn't need fixing... it needs new toys that are unique to RDM.

In what FF did RDM ever get anything unique other than faster casting?

In what FF did we have a Puppetmaster?

[XxSlusherxx]

Relm.

[Evelyn]

what FF did RDM ever had refresh? and in every FF that I've played, RDM had a good enough melee ability to use in difficult fights... yeah, look where that got us.

Anyway, what I'd love to see RDM get is a new set of DoTs. Something like a mix between the elemental ones and the threnody set, where you get dot with a element down effect (doesn't even have to be as good as threnody, I'd take half as powerful) Only having dia, bio and poison kinda sucks.

Refresh II would be nice as long as it wasn't out-of-party, but I seriously doubt that we'd ever get it.

Besides that, fixing HNM resists on enfeebles would be sweet. I hate having to cast enfeebles over and over on mobs that theoretically are weak to that element (hello slow on Khimmy)

[Admo]

Relm.

Painter

[XxSlusherxx]

double

[XxSlusherxx]

what FF did RDM ever had refresh? and in every FF that I've played, RDM had a good enough melee ability to use in difficult fights... yeah, look where that got us.

Anyway, what I'd love to see RDM get is a new set of DoTs. Something like a mix between the elemental ones and the threnody set, where you get dot with a element down effect (doesn't even have to be as good as threnody, I'd take half as powerful) Only having dia, bio and poison kinda sucks.

Refresh II would be nice as long as it wasn't out-of-party, but I seriously doubt that we'd ever get it.

Besides that, fixing HNM resists on enfeebles would be sweet. I hate having to cast enfeebles over and over on mobs that theoretically are weak to that element (hello slow on Khimmy)

in the original version of ffxi RDM was very much like it was in FF1(probly more), jack of all trades master of none, and compltely worthless after low levels, they added enfeebling and refresh to give it a purpose

Relm.

Painter

technicallity, she painted pets which fought for her, similar to puppets

[Daimen-G]

what FF did RDM ever had refresh? and in every FF that I've played, RDM had a good enough melee ability to use in difficult fights... yeah, look where that got us.

Honestly RDM has sucked in every FF it's appeared in prior to XI if my memory serves me well. They should definitely give RDM new enfeebles and enhancement magic though - maybe stuff like Curse or Potency.

what FF had pup

Closest thing I can think of is Magitek suit pilots in FF6.

[Admo]

Painter is really its own class, but if I had to pick one, I'd say it's closer to BST.

[Evelyn]

first time I played FF1, i had Warrior, Monk, Red Mage, Black Mage. Worked out well, especially once you got the healing staff. Hardly needed the healing, so a slightly beefier mage was a good step for me. Mostly meleed with it because I don't like using MP much unless I have to.

[Healer]

The guy who finished Bravura but quit when he found out AXE/Ridill is higher DoT is probably going to be pissed if he still keeps up with FFXI and hasn't reactivated his account by now.

[Venture]

Refresh, Haste, Cure IV, Regen, Stoneskin, Phalanx, Blink, Fast Cast, Clear Mind, Convert, highest Enfeebling and Enhancing skill, Paralyze-II, Slow-II, Blind-II, Bio II-III, Dia II-III, Bind, Gravity, Sleep I and II, Tier III nukes, Bars, Sneak, Invisible, Sword and Shield skill, Potency/Convert merits, ability to fucking solo shit BST and NIN wouldn't dare touch, get a party invite just logging into the game because everyone needs and wants a RDM.

I'm a RDM, and even I know RDM has just been dancing around the nerf bat for a good two years. People suck your dick for Refresh in pre-merit parties, and you can name your price for any merit party you want in. HNM LSs want RDM, RDMs make every mission, quest and battle easier, and RDMs don't have to get up groups to go collect items they want. You just go solo it.

Wait, we want MORE shit? lolgreedyyyy

[Koyangi]

Refresh, Haste, Cure IV, Regen, Stoneskin, Phalanx, Blink, Fast Cast, Clear Mind, Convert, highest Enfeebling and Enhancing skill, Paralyze-II, Slow-II, Blind-II, Bio II-III, Dia II-III, Bind, Gravity, Sleep I and II, Tier III nukes, Bars, Sneak, Invisible, Sword and Shield skill, Potency/Convert merits, ability to fucking solo shit BST and NIN wouldn't dare touch, get a party invite just logging into the game because everyone needs and wants a RDM.

I'm a RDM, and even I know RDM has just been dancing around the nerf bat for a good two years. People suck your dick for Refresh in pre-merit parties, and you can name your price for any merit party you want in. HNM LSs want RDM, RDMs make every mission, quest and battle easier, and RDMs don't have to get up groups to go collect items they want. You just go solo it.

Wait, we want MORE shit? lolgreedyyyy

QFT, RDM is very capable of so much already, even though most RDM aren't an Avesta, there ability to solo certain mobs as is proves that point enough.

[Sho]

I want RegenII/III for RDM more than Refresh II.

They removed Regen 2 and Cure 5 from RDM for a reason, It's the WHM Job exclusive spells, RDM complains they aren't too unique, yet they also want to be every job...

I didn't say Regen II and III for this very reason. Anyways, it's extremely hard to tweak a seasoned and almost perfect job like RDM, without unbalancing alot of the game. To the people that ask for Elemental enfeebs... that's what Ninja defuffs are, if you've forgotten. Altho', in the dats there are alot of unnammed spells that look like they'd be elemental debuffs...

[Evelyn]

Refresh, Haste, Cure IV, Regen, Stoneskin, Phalanx, Blink, Fast Cast, Clear Mind, Convert, highest Enfeebling and Enhancing skill, Paralyze-II, Slow-II, Blind-II, Bio II-III, Dia II-III, Bind, Gravity, Sleep I and II, Tier III nukes, Bars, Sneak, Invisible, Sword and Shield skill, Potency/Convert merits, ability to fucking solo shit BST and NIN wouldn't dare touch, get a party invite just logging into the game because everyone needs and wants a RDM.

I'm a RDM, and even I know RDM has just been dancing around the nerf bat for a good two years. People suck your dick for Refresh in pre-merit parties, and you can name your price for any merit party you want in. HNM LSs want RDM, RDMs make every mission, quest and battle easier, and RDMs don't have to get up groups to go collect items they want. You just go solo it.

Wait, we want MORE shit? lolgreedyyyy

I don't want anything game-breaking, nor do I want anything that makes other jobs useless. I just want something new to refresh a job I've been playing since PC release that doesn't involve merits.

[Jeryhn]

I don't want anything game-breaking, nor do I want anything that makes other jobs useless. I just want something new to refresh a job I've been playing since PC release that doesn't involve merits.

I just want something new to refresh a job I've been playing since PC release that doesn't involve merits.

just want something new to refresh

refresh

This is the part where you sit in the bottom of your cold shower fully clothed and shivering.

[BRP]

technicallity, she painted pets which fought for her, similar to puppets

Relm is also a Beastmaster right?

[Rocl]

Requesting Rule 34 of Relm.
Alliteration!

[BRP]

Requesting Rule 34 of Relm.
Alliteration!

Rule 34 on a FF character? There's porn of her, trust me.

[LD]

No, unfortunately, he's REQUESTING it. ~_~;

[Valacirca]

Requesting Rule 34 of Relm.
Alliteration!

Done. (NSFW obviously)