Battle System Adjustments (08/14/2007)

[Naygor]

Hence the sarcasm. I didn't really find the "you're a dick sucking faggot because I disagree with you" argument to be all that impressive.

[Beckwin]

So a job that can actively participate in good xp has problems that need to be seriously addressed?

Give it a fucking break, you just want to see Carbuncle running around while doing it. If SE just gives you some avatar emotes would you just shut the fuck up?

[Nirokun!]

I finally caught up to the end of the thread (YOU FUCKERS ADD A NEW PAGE EVERYTIME I GET TO THE END OF ONE ((()

im at the point where i can see which people dont see eye to eye, which people dont understand, and which people dont contribute anything to the discussion.

i think most everything that i wanted to say has been echo'd over and over, trying to communicate the same point in different ways, but others dont accept the opinions set by the folks that play the job. Oh well.

[Naygor]

If you can't accept their opinion they're obviously a dick sucking faggot. I mean, that's just the way it is.

[Sasarai]

Using logic makes you gay, I read it on the internets.

[Fryte]

Boy, I am so glad I leveled SMN so I can fight Cerberus, Khimaira, and Tiamat once every 3 months. I'm sure that's exactly what SE intended when it created the job years ago. What exactly is your vendetta against SMN? Do you have the same beef against BST since they can lowman Xolotl and almost every other NM with pets around it?

OH MAN, a few of the jobs that need some tweaking can already do some random gimmick task better than your standard melee! "THEY DONT NEED SHIT". Your argument or lack thereof just doesn't make sense or isn't very fair. You keep arguing this point, but offer no solution. If your solution was to buff NIN (like this thread was about 15 pages ago), you are the biggest hypocrite ever. Utsusemi is so broken it's ridiculous, but SE's going with it because it's way too late to fix it. It's also sad that whatever tank job SE cooks up, it will still be overshadowed (PUN, lol) by Utsusemi tanking. Personally, I'd love to see Utsusemi:Ni become level 38 or shadows working like Blink. Oh, the fun that would ensue.

Anyways, I'm going to bed. I look forward to page50 tomorrow.

[Sasarai]

Boy, I am so glad I leveled SMN so I can fight Cerberus, Khimaira, and Tiamat once every 3 months.

And how many jobs don't even get that much, but have recieved little to NO updates from SE?

[Beckwin]

You and your peers are choosing to only use SMN on Tia/Cerb/Khim every month, just like people chose to not use MNK on HNMs at all in years past. Deal with it; it's a malleable condition so you're really only got yourself to blame.

[Fryte]

I'm not saying SMN should get updates firstomgneeditnow. I can only speak about jobs I actually play. I can't really go spouting off about MNK when I've never played it, can I?

[Naygor]

I could and I've never even played mnk. Probably the simplest melee in the game.

[aurik]

I could and I've never even played mnk. Probably the simplest melee in the game.

how naive

[Naygor]

Name a melee that is simpler.

[aurik]

Name a melee that is simpler.

Just because it's among the simplest doesn't mean you know everything about it without ever playing it.

[Naygor]

Never claimed I know everything about it, but I probably know enough to at least get by.

[Beckwin]

There's a difference between knowing the ins-and-outs of a job from experience and knowing what roles the job can fill from related/second-hand experience.

[aurik]

Never claimed I know everything about it, but I probably know enough to at least get by.

Maybe enough to be a mediocre monk, but that in no way makes you qualified to spout off about what the job does or does not need.

[Naygor]

Ummm, I'd know what gear to wear endgame and I'd sub nin so I don't see how I could be that mediocre (I'd even get some merits too!).

[Deathbeckons]

ok i know my comment is gonna drown like a yacht made out of lead in this thread but...

i just gotta say this is the most incredibly stupid thread ive ever seen. my IQ may very well likely have been halved, im not even sure. i want all the random amounts of time i spent looking in here hoping for an interesting new development back.

also: naygor, gtfo.

[aurik]

Ummm, I'd know what gear to wear endgame and I'd sub nin so I don't see how I could be that mediocre (I'd even get some merits too!).

That makes you mediocre, almost everyone who plays this game is capable of reading.

[Naygor]

I'm mediocre because I'd know what gear to wear? Should I punch harder and believe in the heart of the cards to get better damage?