Battle System Adjustments (08/14/2007)

[aurik]

I'm mediocre because I'd know what gear to wear? Should I punch harder and believe in the heart of the cards to get better damage?

Knowing why you wear what you wear allows you to make situational changes when the situation calls for it.

[Naygor]

I wear haste because it makes me punch faster. I wear accuracy because it makes me punch more accurately. Seems rather straightfoward.

[aurik]

I wear haste because it makes me punch faster. I wear accuracy because it makes me punch more accurately. Seems rather straightfoward.

And that's what makes you mediocre.

[Ahnuld]

I wear haste because it makes me punch faster. I wear accuracy because it makes me punch more accurately. Seems rather straightfoward.

Dude, just stop there.

[Koyangi]

lol

[LD]

Did I tell you, or did I tell you?

Six more pages of this shit, simply because they can't believe there's a reason we think they shouldn't get a fucking thing. They wont stop either. They really can't see the inconsistencies of claiming to be average in a game with mostly average jobs and a small handful of completely shitty ones. They continually cite the above-average jobs, yet claim they don't want to be uber. Shouting over and over that we don't understand what they're saying when the truth is we do, but they DON'T. Power is understood by everyone, greed is only understood by everyone else.

I don't say shit that I don't believe, and I don't believe in something unless I have as many facts I can. I haven't just played with every single job, I talked to them. I ask questions. I watch what they do, what works and what doesn't. Just because you don't absorb information at every turn doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

I also notice that each job has a certain type of person that it is most able to attract. MNK, for example. Out of the many old school monks I have met, spoken with, or listened too (even the most odious one), there is a common theme: They are all very Logical, Methodical, Analytical, and Egotistical. The logic and method may be flawed, the analysis may be incorrect, and the ego may be wildly out of control (HINT!!), but it is a theme, none the less. WAR's another good example: Somewhat amiable when it comes to the desires and opinions of others, but hardliners when their opinion or interests are conflicted. Not so much aggressive, more like they simply wont give an inch. Summoners, when you talk to them directly, are somewhat calm, polite, and low key. Friendly, that's the word for it. However, each and every one I have ever known has been one of the most obnoxious and petty people whenever it comes to something they want. Two of them, whom I actually knew somewhat personally, started a fight in KI on the Summoner board, derailing it earlier than even this one. It was a personal quarrel that could have just as easily been done on the server forum, not to mention the MB of the LS THEY BOTH BELONGED TO. Worst part is....it was over an Astral Signa.... This was long before Bahamut's staff, but fuck me...It wasn't even as good as this topic, reading it was like drinking drain-o.

Point being, I know your job and I know the people who play it. Just because I choose not to play it myself doesn't mean I don't understand it as well or possibly better. You are incredibly shallow people, but don't worry, that's not necessarily a bad thing and it sure as hell isn’t limited to your class, as much as I wish it were. I can see right through you, your thought processes, and the ideas they create. I am not an unnecessarily cruel man, so I’ll give you the answer to finding some middle ground, assuming you even seek it. Your unending and unapologetic selfishness would be more accepted if you were able to acknowledge it. Simply say “I know I don’t need or deserve it, I just want it anyway.” and this will become a much different conversation....in that it will actually BE a conversation. You will not take this advice, however, because the large words and wall of text has scared you. Even if they haven’t, you will write me off just as before.


P.S. Naygor, don't argue with aurik. You'll lose and it's one derail at a time.

[Naygor]

Argue what with Aurik? He's telling me I would be a terrible mnk with next to no evidence other than I haven't played that job. I'm pretty sure there's a job or two in this game I haven't played, but could still play and not be terrible at it.

[aurik]

terrible

mediocre

Well maybe you would be terrible since apparently you can't read.

[LD]

...I'm not getting into this. I warned you.

[Naygor]

Would you like me to bust out the dictionary where it states that mediocre is average to inferior in quality and terrible would be at the other end of that or would you prefer to nitpick semantics some more?

Edit: Getting into what? I said I'd probably know how to play mnk and you jumped down my throat. Is this how you settle all your arguments about how to play your job?

[LD]

Unified front, bitches! You're ruining my grand works. ;-;

[Ahnuld]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Miserable.jpg

[LD]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Miserable.jpg

Verd.

[Nuketwig]

terrible

mediocre

Well maybe you would be terrible since apparently you can't read.

Semantics aside, he's right it's not a terribly complex job. But hell, what melee is?

[Demosthenes11]

Princeton vs. Jesus, match of the century, GO

[aurik]

Would you like me to bust out the dictionary where it states that mediocre is average to inferior in quality and terrible would be at the other end of that or would you prefer to nitpick semantics some more?

Bust away, you'll probably find that terrible and mediocre are hardly the same thing.

[Naygor]

mediocre

adjective
1. moderate to inferior in quality; "they improved the quality from mediocre to above average"
2. lacking exceptional quality or ability; "a novel of average merit"; "only a fair performance of the sonata"; "in fair health"; "the caliber of the students has gone from mediocre to above average"; "the performance was middling at best" [syn: average]
3. poor to middling in quality; "there have been good and mediocre and bad artists"

Directly from dictionary.com. Now you could've meant the second definition and then it would be a different thing, but the context was pretty much up for grabs.

[LD]

....God damnit....

Aurik is right because he proved he doesn't know WHY it works.

Haste, as it pertains to auto-attack, is only useful if you're getting another attack round.
Accuracy, while it does have a point, also has a point where having more of it at the cost of more damage is pointless. That is WHY Fumas aren't that great and WHY Sushi is lol in merit.


Now, for the love of God, get back on my path to glory.

and eat hearty....

For tonight...we dine....in GROUNDROUND, BITCHES!!

[aurik]

So where does "poor to average" equal
terrible (adj)
1: causing fear or dread or terror;
2: exceptionally bad or displeasing;
3: intensely or extremely bad or unpleasant in degree or
quality;
4: extremely distressing;

[FinalJustice]

LOL here we go again

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But I do have a serious question for LD. How is wanting some tweaks for about 5 jobs that need it, being selfish? I can happily discuss the other jobs that need help. Though With Drg, i HEAR about its problems, but Im still not exactly sure how to fix them, beyond Making better pole arms, and adjusted their WS dmg?

Edit: I think you mentioned awhile back, that you don't have an actual issue with smn wanting an update, but the problem was the one who feel entitled or something? Unless that was someone else?