Battle System Adjustments (08/14/2007)

[Jotaru]

I also hope Sams get atleast 1 AoE weapon skill (for farming) and a multi-hit weapon skill.

May be good, but I *really* doubt they will be changing much more than the damage formula for some WS's (or changing their type, i.e. making Penta TP>Crit rather than TP>DMG). A lot of your ideas seem nice, but would require a lot of major overhauls, and I think is probably way beyond the spectrum of this update, and more akin to wishful thinking that comes around when contemplating new jobs or other such additions ^^;;

[Xanthe]

I hope they make Penta thrust an attack bonus based on TP type of weapon skill. Drg's dont get much attack bonus so this would help them out greatly since they have a ot of acc gear choices.

Completely untrue. There are plenty of attack+ gear choices available. If anything, Penta Thrust should be changed to a critical mod based on TP.

[Amele]

Just because I don't have a K.Club for my Drk yet, I got kinda excited about that -3% Delay.

Would that give the 90%+(don't remember the actual numbers from that old thread), 100 Scythe thing, that final push into infinite numbers?

I really doubt it cause -3% isn't much, haha... just something for me to search and calculate... /shrug

this doesn't happen. maths: two numbers greater than zero when multiplied together will never result in a number that is less than or equal to zero.

(.00000000001 * .00000000001 = 0.000000000000000000001)

in the case of BZ: even assuming this stacks in you've got:

current BZ speed fraction (what, .07?) * .97(delay -3%) = ~ .068 (so two thousandths of a percent gain.)

in the case that it stacks linearly with desperate blows, you *might* see as much as a 1% percent gain. (I'd have to run the numbers again)

[Mazrim]

Now we're going to see even more people trying to merit as war/sam

[Jotaru]

Variation? How horrible. Curse you, SE, CUUURSE YOUUU.

[Nirokun!]

as a mage, im hoping that the grips function like shields and not sub-weapons in dual-wield for macro-writing

making a macro to include swapping in 2 weapons, the 2nd dependant on the first, is lame (losing your grip everytime you change a staff </3)

[Arnwulf]

Something tells me that this update, along with the statement from the last interview about the new expansion and the revamping of the battle system, is just the first of many major changes they are going to make. It also points to the likelihood of at least 1 or 2 of the new jobs being a 2handed weapon class.

[Kael]

Holy shit. Awesome Sauce.

[Wizerd]

All this talk of horribly wrong speculation every time an update patch is posted amuses me...

If you don't already have a multi-hit weapon skill, you're not getting one. If you have one and it sucks, it might be better now. That's really all.

Now to level a 2H weapon job so I can still merit... Oh wait, I have BRD. I still win. ^.^

[Siatdiat]

All this talk of horribly wrong speculation every time an update patch is posted amuses me...

Now to level a 2H weapon job so I can still merit... Oh wait, I have BRD. I still win. ^.^

Irony?

[LD]

No, he's right.

[Venture]

Ohgawd, no /NIN. My RDM merit futures cringe at the idea of having to cast Cure IV once every 5 seconds because thick-headed melee asleep at their Auto Attack button have no concept of alternating Seigan and Hasso.

[algrensan]

wootaru! :D

[Siatdiat]

Right, because there is nothing horribly speculative about proclaiming 2h weapons new merit fad based off a picture of a -3% delay equip and mention of ws adjustment.

[Larrieux]

Going to be skill up pts galore again "All Right!" and seems wrong to say it but...War pts with Gaxes swinging.

[Amele]

at this point the only way to 'unseat' bard (if that was ever SE's intention) would be to make gear with ridiculous bonuses and a latent of: "no songs".

like say, a pair of red kotes with latent effect: Attack+80. we can call them 'tone-deaf kote' or something.

(and no, I'm not endorsing this. just would be an amusing line of gear if named properly)

[isladar]

I sincerely doubt this is going to revolutionize meriting -- but I can sure hope its going to make trucking a GA around for other events not something you have to beg for.

[Izzy]

Tiphia Sting and Bellicose Mantle? I know they aren't that great, but they are something.

That's what i'm using haha!

[LD]

Right, because there is nothing horribly speculative about proclaiming 2h weapons new merit fad based off a picture of a -3% delay equip and mention of ws adjustment.

Considering the news bit also said 2H weapons would get an inherent attack calculation bonus and the fact that the only job that really makes use of things like Ridill is WAR, it doesn't seem that unlikely.

People won't suddenly stop using /NIN, they use it for the same reason MNK has used it: Defensive purposes. The only difference is DRK & WAR will have the option of also using it for offensive purposes.

[Siatdiat]

Right, because there is nothing horribly speculative about proclaiming 2h weapons new merit fad based off a picture of a -3% delay equip and mention of ws adjustment.

Considering the news bit also said 2H weapons would get an inherent attack calculation bonus and the fact that the only job that really makes use of things like Ridill is WAR, it doesn't seem that unlikely.

Because its all about damage, has nothing to do with survivability, or the fact that a single rdm can keep 3-4 melee alive with utsusemi.