Someone with capped/high Guard skill...

[Max™]

How much of a proc rate difference have you noticed?

Does it reduce more damage with higher skill?

I've looked around and haven't seen anything besides leveling guides.

Anyone ever worked out the math about Guard activation/reduction/it's effect on interrupts if any?

[Kriz]

I'd imagine if anyone has put too much research into Monk, it'd be the guy who no longer comes here anymore, Genome, who won't stop rambling of the epicness of Monk in every possible setup.

If you google for his LJ, maybe he can help.

[Shuemue]

I'd imagine if anyone has put too much research into Monk, it'd be the guy who no longer comes here anymore, Genome, who won't stop rambling of the epicness of Monk in every possible setup.

If you google for his LJ, maybe he can help.

I suspect Genome no longer comes here because he got sick of Aurik owning him.

[Jodwahh]

try a search for nagamaki

[mai ikari]

Like the other guys said, look for what Aurik / Nagamaki have to say. And not Genome.

Max proc rate 15%, check goes Evasion > Utsu > Counter > Guard. Player guard skill vs mob weapon skill, so need guard gear for capped rate against anything high level.

No effect on interrupts, just visit some MNK forums and listen to us complain about it.

As I recall, it's a reverse crit, pDIF -1.0, so only job level will reduce more damage.

[Max™]

Ah, cool, thanks for the info.

Well, guess we can't complain too much with the horrible asskickery we pump out, and Counter being arguably the most kick ass defensive ability in game (when it procs) but man, Guard sounds kind of like a let down.

Still skilling it, maybe they'll "adjust" it sometime.

[Appie]

Maybe they'll adjust it in this patch!

(yeah, who am I kidding, loving it either way, still a bit less damage taken for my midget)

[BerenTebogo]

This is pretty interesting, I'm currently leveling MNK (trying to tank / get PLed as much as possible for guard skill as I go) 100% only for being more useful all-around in salvage.

Still only lv25, but since I have the materials, from a MNK perspective if I'm looking to just use it as a DD tank / EVA tank job (for whichever chariot) would it be completely useless to upgrade AF+1 legs?

[LD]

Like the other guys said, look for what Aurik / Nagamaki have to say. And not Genome.

Max proc rate 15%, check goes Evasion > Utsu > Counter > Guard. Player guard skill vs mob weapon skill, so need guard gear for capped rate against anything high level.

No effect on interrupts, just visit some MNK forums and listen to us complain about it.

As I recall, it's a reverse crit, pDIF -1.0, so only job level will reduce more damage.

Everything here is absolutely, unequivocally correct. Everything

Kriz, the amount of violence you are owed for even suggesting that Genome is a reliable source of information is beyond the capabilities of Hercules or Mighty Thor, and is surpassed only by that owed to Genome himself.

[leviathanertai]

Still only lv25, but since I have the materials, from a MNK perspective if I'm looking to just use it as a DD tank / EVA tank job (for whichever chariot) would it be completely useless to upgrade AF+1 legs?

Personally, I macro these in for my utsusemi macro. I really like the AF+1 legs for this purpose as I really never find myself needing to chi blast anymore. Though, honestly, I've never found myself having issues getting shadows up for chariots in salvage as the ones I've fought don't exactly hit fast enough for it to be a real problem casting Ichi. In general for salvage though, where you're the main tank, gear like this is great to have given the slot is unlocked for you. Course, I really don't get the full use out of +guard by any means as I still only have 121 Guard Skill and I've had monk at 75 for over 2 years.

[BerenTebogo]

Still only lv25, but since I have the materials, from a MNK perspective if I'm looking to just use it as a DD tank / EVA tank job (for whichever chariot) would it be completely useless to upgrade AF+1 legs?

Personally, I macro these in for my utsusemi macro. I really like the AF+1 legs for this purpose as I really never find myself needing to chi blast anymore. Though, honestly, I've never found myself having issues getting shadows up for chariots in salvage as the ones I've fought don't exactly hit fast enough for it to be a real problem casting Ichi. In general for salvage though, where you're the main tank, gear like this is great to have given the slot is unlocked for you. Course, I really don't get the full use out of +guard by any means as I still only have 121 Guard Skill and I've had monk at 75 for over 2 years.

Ok that's actually really helpful ^^ thanks

[Francisco II]

Guard is nothing to rely on, it's just a small bit of support really.

Counter is very nice, especially on Chariots, since they have low evasion, and no devastating TP attack (think Sickle Slash, Fang Rush) - so Counterstance is a viable option.