Ridill vs Mandau vs MNK/WAR

[Ryko]

I would personally much prefer THFs be given Mandaus instead of Ridills.

You don't want me to say what I want to say right now so curb it.

[Ryko]

K just so you know.

It's not the thieves' fault you didn't level to 75 until after you got the 8th adaberk behind BSTs and other people who werent prima donnas about their job, nor their fault that they got them while you took a year break. Stop kvetching.

[Stolin]

I'm the best in the world or anything, but your idea that someone can match or beat me in damage with far less work/gear is completely untrue.

No its completely true. You can either get destroyers, a few sky items, and a bb or you can spend a retarded amount of resources for a dagger thats only good for killing birds in thickets.

Aside from this it seems you can't think beyond merit parties. Even in merit parties, DD onlys play a very insignificant role in the party. *Gasp* You can get very good exp (24k/hr) without having a relic weapon, king items, or any retarded salvage equipment. You know what the important jobs are? Bard-Bard-Red mage.

I'd also like to point out that greater colibris are the absolute worst mob ever to gauge your merit against other DDs, and that the original topic was stupid. This belongs xaviers WAR vs MNK vs Whatever thread.

One more lol at you calling mandau a utility item. Its like..when you eat ice cream too fast it just makes your head hurt.

[aurik]

ridill thf is great in salvage

[Francisco II]

just realize SE has long since become afraid to do anything drastic anymore.

What qualifies as drastic? Black Belt, Defending Ring and Ridill?

[Ryko]

just realize SE has long since become afraid to do anything drastic anymore.

What qualifies as drastic? Black Belt, Defending Ring and Ridill?

The anymore implies that it had been done before, and yes, I meant in rotz (With exactly said items).

[divisortheory]

ANNIHILATE!

DESTROY!

SHRED!

That post, and the above quoted lines in particular totally reminds me of a GWAR song lol.

Everything that ever was, and all that there will ever be
Flesh and blood and stick and stone, all is laid to waste by me
I crush you as I would a fly
I kill you and I watch you die
Destroying everything you cherish, masturbating as you perish
Crush, kill, destroy, crush, kill, destroy, destroy!
I was first and shall be last, slaying all who cross my path
Toppling your gleaming towers, bathing you in golden showers
I crush you as I would a fly
I Kill you and I watch you die
Destroying all I find offending, devastation never ending

[Yutuyu]

I think people are (severely) overestimating how good these grips are going to be.

and i think you underestimating what has been said in the annoucement, its not only grip , but 2H delay formula , and 2H dot affected by stats ( STR )

And the same people who missed it in the update notes, also missed what you said here, not at all surprising.

[Ryko]

That's nice, the point was the people who disagree doubt SE would do something so ridiculously drastic that itll somehow displace the top EXP jobs. It's just not likely to happen, you can keep hoping though.

[Xno]

wait n see.

I think SE would benefit this update as well, since people would start leveling 2H jobs (all the bandwagon who leveled war, mnk, nin) and then bring fun and interest to players.

I see that like this : rng era endded long time ago , dual wield era gonna end , lets place to 2H era

[moguri]

wait n see.

I think SE would benefit this update as well, since people would start leveling 2H jobs (all the bandwagon who leveled war, mnk, nin) and then bring fun and interest to players.

I see that like this : rng era endded long time ago , dual wield era gonna end , lets place to 2H era

And then when they gimp 2H, it'll be single wield revolution, then PUP Pet era where DRG & PUP & BST rule, then the era of the galka, where just galka will be king. i see it all now.

[XxSlusherxx]

I'm with Xno on this one, the people who have spent the last 2 years trying to push there 2hand to as close as possible with the main merit jobs will be pumped up pretty seriously by this update. I imagine it will still take less effort to be a top teir DD as a DWing class, but people who have put a lot of time and effort into their DRG/DRK/SAM gear will actually do more dmg an attack round than someone with one handed weapons, which their delay dictates they should.

[Priran]

dual wield era gonna end

pardon the expression, but


XD

[Charismatic]

dual wield era gonna end

pardon the expression, but


XD

Oh no you didn't...

[RKenshin]

This wonderfully evil feeling comes over me every time I'm reminded they're buffing 2h weapons more. Even if the adjustment is small and ends up as noticeable as the BLM nerf... GK SAM so shouldn't be buffed anymore but hey! I'm all for it. :D

I think a lot of people are overestimating how much of a difference this patch will make though. It'd have to be a pretty significant upgrade overall for 2h weapons to be on the same page as 1h weapons... And typically SE is bad with making any kind of significant nerfs/upgrades outside of some of the older updates. But we'll see shortly, update is coming like next week isn't it?

[divisortheory]

This wonderfully evil feeling comes over me every time I'm reminded they're buffing 2h weapons more. Even if the adjustment is small and ends up as noticeable as the BLM nerf... GK SAM so shouldn't be buffed anymore but hey! I'm all for it. :D

I think a lot of people are overestimating how much of a difference this patch will make though. It'd have to be a pretty significant upgrade overall for 2h weapons to be on the same page as 1h weapons... And typically SE is bad with making any kind of significant nerfs/upgrades outside of some of the older updates. But we'll see shortly, update is coming like next week isn't it?

It's coming in August unless they delay it, but I find it odd they still haven't specified the date. My money is that the date will be announced tomorrow, and that the update will be either Monday or Tuesday.

[Ryko]

This wonderfully evil feeling comes over me every time I'm reminded they're buffing 2h weapons more. Even if the adjustment is small and ends up as noticeable as the BLM nerf... GK SAM so shouldn't be buffed anymore but hey! I'm all for it. :D

I think a lot of people are overestimating how much of a difference this patch will make though. It'd have to be a pretty significant upgrade overall for 2h weapons to be on the same page as 1h weapons... And typically SE is bad with making any kind of significant nerfs/upgrades outside of some of the older updates. But we'll see shortly, update is coming like next week isn't it?

It's coming in August unless they delay it, but I find it odd they still haven't specified the date. My money is that the date will be announced tomorrow, and that the update will be either Monday or Tuesday.

<_< The patch was pretty much announced to be the 27th, it's like a 6 hour maintenance.

[Baha]

I used to think "I'd never want Ridill on THF" until I played a bunch with a THF friend who had it, and he was always shredding everything faster than me by a huge margin. If you spend most of your time doing things like Dynamis, Salvage and general NM camping (not HNM), Ridill can be quite good on THF, but it seems like most people would consider someone who primarily does those things to be "toy" players. ;p

Yeah, have to say that I've gone back and forth on my opinion of ridill THF more than once now. I know it'd do well on those things (well, first couple salvage floors and city dynamises), it's mostly the merits and northland dynamises where I'm curious how it works out, if at all.

At any rate, since WARs are actually using Ridill on HNMs these days, the argument that it's a toy for them too is no longer valid, so I don't believe so strongly in the above sentiment anymore. And to be explicit, I'm saying if you use it on HNM, it's not a toy.

Ridill threads always bring up debates on this sort of thing, and it's not any easier to juggle attendance/jobs/etc for all the eligible people when it does drop eventually. Low droprate is frustrating, simply because it's low, but also because it makes people stand on edge about it when it does drop. Oh well. :3

[MNKing]

Sam/Rng is already a sick job. A sam with archery merited and soboro puts out in merit parties, if their acc is up to par. With this update I'd like to imagine they would gain the most benefit from the weapon enhancement, that is if the enhancements aren't garbage to begin with.

[Ryko]

Jesus @ the train wreck of a sig.