Question for Atheists/Agnostics with Kids

[Demosthenes11]

We know the science behind the cells by now, that's not the question. We know how they work in perfect conjunction with one another on the grandest scale. We even know the driving force. I'm not attributing god to something completely unexplainable, just to what fits too perfectly together for me to be mere coincidence.

And that's what separates me from atheists

[Neosutra]

We know the science behind the cells by now, that's not the question. We know how they work in perfect conjunction with one another on the grandest scale. We even know the driving force. I'm not attributing god to something completely unexplainable, just to what fits too perfectly together for me to be mere coincidence.

And that's what separates me from atheists

Entropy drives the universe. Its the driving order of the universe that makes you beleive...

So to you god = entropy?

But your right, everything does fit perfectly together. I mean, look at all the complexities that make up the human DNA. If there wasnt a god, and it was all random, then there would just be a ton of random variations, and earth would house billions of different species....... oh wait. Seriously, if its one thing the unvierse screams, its random chaotic disorder desperately attempting to find the lowest state of entropy, NOT perfect puzzle peices just for nice little Demosthenes to feel good about.

[Demosthenes11]

and this is why a lot of people are annoyed with people that push their beliefs on others. And don't even try to say you are not, because you are

"UR STUPID IM SMRT LOL"

[Neosutra]

and this is why a lot of people are annoyed with people that push their beliefs on others. And don't even try to say you are not, because you are

"UR STUPID IM SMRT LOL"

Strike 3 on the "attemping to call you an elitist pushing your beleifs" attempt jackass. We have already stated that everyone here bashing you is doing so because:

1. Its a debate on religion, so yes... we are going to tell you our thoughts.
2. You dont post anything half as intelligent as any other poster here, pro/con-religion.
3. You never actually respond to what people say when they show your flaws, just change the subject and call them mean. Your really a waste of time =/

[Maguspk]

Just wanna throw this out there, I want to strangle Neosutra irl, lol.

I don't care either way or another as far as the debate goes but atheists who feel it's their duty to fight tooth and nail to be "right" about there not being a god really make me angry. Just about as bad as the over-zealous Christians who think it's their job to annoy people about their condemnation or their eternal destiny.

I dunno, it looks like Demos is just trying to say why he chooses to believe and not truly instigating an argument but you're taking it upon yourself to press down on him. What's worse is you both won't stop because your e-peens are at stake.

[Neosutra]

Just wanna throw this out there, I want to strangle Neosutra irl, lol.

I don't care either way or another as far as the debate goes but atheists who feel it's their duty to fight tooth and nail to be "right" about there not being a god really make me angry. Just about as bad as the over-zealous Christians who think it's their job to annoy people about their condemnation or their eternal destiny.

I dunno, it looks like Demos is just trying to say why he chooses to believe and not truly instigating an argument but you're taking it upon yourself to press down on him. What's worse is you both won't stop because your e-peens are at stake.

Your in the same category as demos. You dont post any evidence, reasonable debate, or intelligent repor, just post how mean everyone is that has the nerve to call your bullshit. And if I have to tell you again that your getting pissy about religion being discussed in a religion thread, im going to have to virtually bitch slap you(though im not sure how I would do that, just making fun of your angry bursts of "i hate neo, he made fun of my weak and pathetic arguments"). Really, seriously, grow up and get over it. Youll find my responses alot more respectful when you give me/everyone else the respect to put some evidence/reasoning behind your post. And between us, you seem to be the violent hater of everyone that disagrees with you with your desire to strangle people lol, what a tool.

[Venture]

I don't understand what happened to this thread since Page 1. I'll write it off as one of God's Things, and be on my merry way to Hell, or at least Purgatory.

[Siniroth]

haha, well said


I'll wait till I die to try and say what happens when I die, personally

[Maguspk]

Just wanna throw this out there, I want to strangle Neosutra irl, lol.

I don't care either way or another as far as the debate goes but atheists who feel it's their duty to fight tooth and nail to be "right" about there not being a god really make me angry. Just about as bad as the over-zealous Christians who think it's their job to annoy people about their condemnation or their eternal destiny.

I dunno, it looks like Demos is just trying to say why he chooses to believe and not truly instigating an argument but you're taking it upon yourself to press down on him. What's worse is you both won't stop because your e-peens are at stake.

Your in the same category as demos. You dont post any evidence, reasonable debate, or intelligent repor, just post how mean everyone is that has the nerve to call your bullshit. And if I have to tell you again that your getting pissy about religion being discussed in a religion thread, im going to have to virtually bitch slap you(though im not sure how I would do that, just making fun of your angry bursts of "i hate neo, he made fun of my weak and pathetic arguments"). Really, seriously, grow up and get over it. Youll find my responses alot more respectful when you give me/everyone else the respect to put some evidence/reasoning behind your post. And between us, you seem to be the violent hater of everyone that disagrees with you with your desire to strangle people lol, what a tool.

You need to learn to read.

[Tristam]

haha, well said


I'll wait till I die to try and say what happens when I die, personally

Lol, I hear that, I don't believe in god, but I kinda hope I'm wrong!

[Neosutra]

Just wanna throw this out there, I want to strangle Neosutra irl, lol.

I don't care either way or another as far as the debate goes but atheists who feel it's their duty to fight tooth and nail to be "right" about there not being a god really make me angry. Just about as bad as the over-zealous Christians who think it's their job to annoy people about their condemnation or their eternal destiny.

I dunno, it looks like Demos is just trying to say why he chooses to believe and not truly instigating an argument but you're taking it upon yourself to press down on him. What's worse is you both won't stop because your e-peens are at stake.

Your in the same category as demos. You dont post any evidence, reasonable debate, or intelligent repor, just post how mean everyone is that has the nerve to call your bullshit. And if I have to tell you again that your getting pissy about religion being discussed in a religion thread, im going to have to virtually bitch slap you(though im not sure how I would do that, just making fun of your angry bursts of "i hate neo, he made fun of my weak and pathetic arguments"). Really, seriously, grow up and get over it. Youll find my responses alot more respectful when you give me/everyone else the respect to put some evidence/reasoning behind your post. And between us, you seem to be the violent hater of everyone that disagrees with you with your desire to strangle people lol, what a tool.

You need to learn to read.

Really, which part of your post did I miss? Which part of your intellectual masterpiece eluded me? I think i summed up your contribution to this topic rather well. Give a good argument/data or GTFO, and stop being so mellow dramatic .

[Maguspk]

Just wanna throw this out there, I want to strangle Neosutra irl, lol.

I don't care either way or another as far as the debate goes but atheists who feel it's their duty to fight tooth and nail to be "right" about there not being a god really make me angry. Just about as bad as the over-zealous Christians who think it's their job to annoy people about their condemnation or their eternal destiny.

I dunno, it looks like Demos is just trying to say why he chooses to believe and not truly instigating an argument but you're taking it upon yourself to press down on him. What's worse is you both won't stop because your e-peens are at stake.

Your in the same category as demos. You dont post any evidence, reasonable debate, or intelligent repor, just post how mean everyone is that has the nerve to call your bullshit. And if I have to tell you again that your getting pissy about religion being discussed in a religion thread, im going to have to virtually bitch slap you(though im not sure how I would do that, just making fun of your angry bursts of "i hate neo, he made fun of my weak and pathetic arguments"). Really, seriously, grow up and get over it. Youll find my responses alot more respectful when you give me/everyone else the respect to put some evidence/reasoning behind your post. And between us, you seem to be the violent hater of everyone that disagrees with you with your desire to strangle people lol, what a tool.

You need to learn to read.

Really, which part of your post did I miss? Which part of your intellectual masterpiece eluded me? I think i summed up your contribution to this topic rather well. Give a good argument/data or GTFO, and stop being so mellow dramatic .

Nothing about my post in the topic has pertained to religion. My posts involving you have simply been me expressing my annoyance with your replies and your attitude overall. You should read my posts before you make such a confident statement, my only reply to the OP was along the lines of "don't give him mixed messages from both parents or you'll fuck with his head". Nowhere did I state,refer to or assert my "religious stance" which you seem to be so sure about.

Like I said, I only hate your attitude not your argument and especially the way you think it's your job to belittle any of Demos replies. Is that really melodrama?

[Neosutra]

Nothing about my post in the topic has pertained to religion. My posts involving you have simply been me expressing my annoyance with your replies and your attitude overall. You should read my posts before you make such a confident statement, my only reply to the OP was along the lines of "don't give him mixed messages from both parents or you'll fuck with his head". Nowhere did I state,refer to or assert my "religious stance" which you seem to be so sure about.

Like I said, I only hate your attitude not your argument and especially the way you think it's your job to belittle any of Demos replies. Is that really melodrama?

It was the comment below i was targeting:

I don't care either way or another as far as the debate goes but atheists who feel it's their duty to fight tooth and nail to be "right" about there not being a god really make me angry. Just about as bad as the over-zealous Christians who think it's their job to annoy people about their condemnation or their eternal destiny.

Because you obviously missed the memo about this being a religious debate and thus arguing the validity of either sides argumens IS part of the game. And i am being antagonistic to demos because he posts counter responses that ignore everyone elses posts, but simply show his complete disregard for any reason/logic. And yes, its fine for him to beleive what he wants, but if (and i stress this part).. IF he wants to come here and attempt to justify it, he better damned well be able to back it up.

I brought you into it, because you didnt have the forsight to realize this, and were so painfully hurt by the poor demos's melancolly that you just had to come to the rescue and make yourself look like an ass too. For the 53rd time, since you apparently missed it in your retarded rants, neither me nor any other athiest here goes out and preaches or attacks religious people for their beleifs, but if you plan on stating them as fact in a religious debate in this thread then be prepared to get the fuck shot down. As demos has been each time, and as you have been ever since you decided to completely ignore the point and go desperately emo. Such a child.

[Maguspk]

...this being a religious debate and thus arguing the validity of either sides argumens IS part of the game.

Please dont turn this into a discussion about why atheism/agnosticism is right/wrong or why religion is...

uh

asking for advice != asking for advisers to argue their points

[Neosutra]

...this being a religious debate and thus arguing the validity of either sides argumens IS part of the game.

Please dont turn this into a discussion about why atheism/agnosticism is right/wrong or why religion is...

uh

asking for advice != asking for advisers to argue their points

Again..

For the 50th time..

Arguing the validity of a set of beliefs is indeed relevant in a discussion of what should be taught to a child.

And demos will recieve a respectful post when he does more then "i beleive this, so there!". There are many others whom put forth time and effort to present an intelligent arguement that I enjoyed reading alot. I do not however, have a high tolerance for those that reaaaally want to tell everyone their opinion, but show no evidence to back it up. Understood?

[Demosthenes11]

why am I being dragged into each one of your posts?

Why do I need to support my feelings in your eyes? What kind of evidence are you looking for? I never said anything bad about atheism, simply why I believe what I do. This was never a debate until you started throwing your ass into my face, and even then you were arguing with nobody. I was responding to Blarg because he wasnt being a total dick about it and was simply asking me questions instead of baselessly attacking.

I don't give a fuck what you think, honestly lol

[Maguspk]

...this being a religious debate and thus arguing the validity of either sides argumens IS part of the game.

Please dont turn this into a discussion about why atheism/agnosticism is right/wrong or why religion is...

uh

asking for advice != asking for advisers to argue their points

Again..

For the 50th time..

Arguing the validity of a set of beliefs is indeed relevant in a discussion of what should be taught to a child.

And demos will recieve a respectful post when he does more then "i beleive this, so there!". There are many others whom put forth time and effort to present an intelligent arguement that I enjoyed reading alot. I do not however, have a high tolerance for those that reaaaally want to tell everyone their opinion, but show no evidence to back it up. Understood?

I get where you're coming from, but I don't think you can convince me you aren't just being a dick for the sake of being a dick. Anyway, I'm going to bed so this'll be my last post in the topic and probably altogether, have fun being "right".

[Andarvi]

...this being a religious debate and thus arguing the validity of either sides argumens IS part of the game.

Please dont turn this into a discussion about why atheism/agnosticism is right/wrong or why religion is...

uh

asking for advice != asking for advisers to argue their points

Seriously, what happened lol.

I guess it was my own mistake for asking anything related to religion. Guess I should be happy it started off well .

[MF Perm]

...this being a religious debate and thus arguing the validity of either sides argumens IS part of the game.

Please dont turn this into a discussion about why atheism/agnosticism is right/wrong or why religion is...

uh

asking for advice != asking for advisers to argue their points

Seriously, what happened lol.

I guess it was my own mistake for asking anything related to religion. Guess I should be happy it started off well .

Your avatar makes me thirsty every time.

[archibaldcrane]

Your avatar makes me thirsty every time.

I don't trust beer in green bottles.