A Bad GM decision?

[Croaker]

If I were an SGM I would fire the GM and perma ban the miserable fuck you called him on you.

But.. you're not.

Yes.. I know that. They couldn't pay me enough to take the job.

A hypothetical statement causes confusion again I'll fix it.

The SGM should have fired the GM and prema banned the player who called him on you.

[Honorable]

Khamsin you lil pimp

[Hanyoko]

Not trying to take sides but I wonder if a GM tell will override the tell filter?

Its not like people never filter things so they can focus more on the situation right? Or miss things cause they dont have filters set correctly and get pages of spam.

[Cichy]

Ok so my linkshell was at Khimaira and it pops and we get it with 7 people. We start killing albeit slowly (12% in about 30minutes).

All of a sudden 1 by 1 a GM jails 4 of us leaving the rest to die.

He says we were holding Khamaira without damaging it. Never asked us to warp or anything, just sends 4 of us to Mordian and leaves the other 3 to die. We asked to speak to a senior GM while in Mordian and the GM ignored us completely and told 3 of us that he is releasing us and held the 4th and temp banned him.

Finally got in touch with a SGM and he said that 12% in 30 minutes is not a "reasonable" amount of time on Khimaira so it was deemed holding. GMs take into account the monster being fought and what it is being fought with into account when defining a "reasonable" amount of time. And killing Khimaira in 2hours+ with 7 isn't acceptable. The person in our kill team who got banned was banned because he was told by the GM to tell us to disengage but he didn't and i guess ignored the GM.

Of course the GM was called by a rival linkshell I guess who hates that we can actually kill Khimaira with 7 instead of wiping, who knows. I'm not writing this thread to start linkshell bashing but to ask the people here if they agree / disagree with the decision by the GM and to warn people that holding isn't defined as zero damage apparantly.


Edit: After posting this the member was un-tempbanned. I guess after I talked to SGM about the whole situation he revisited it and decided not to temp ban him.

Yes, we envy you so much, especially cuz our swords go freelot at this point. Your ls member called GM on our members for standing too close to her at a Fafnir camp. You honestly think your members can pull this kinna shit and we just gonna watch you bio 2 Khimira to death than?

[Cichy]

nah the person who we were killing it for today just hit 75 PLD like a week ago

[Ryko]

Wonder if we're the only ones who, y'know, stop camping mobs we don't need shit from >_>

nah the person who we were killing it for today just hit 75 PLD like a week ago

So they're not freelot then.

[Deevo]

To clarify, when 4 of us were jailed 3 of us had no idea why. One person in our group according to the SGM was told that we were holding and to leave but wouldn't say who because they can't give out player info. And the "we have more on the way" didn't work. They don't care who was on the way they based the decision on what we had there at the time.

[Shyla]

This is a good GM imo. Most take no action, have no ppl skills or even just reply in the help desk message. A GM that actually takes initiative and deals with the situation, we need more like that.

[TheUnspeakable]

http://tinyurl.com/yqlbha

For example, some Notorious Monsters need a few hours and a large number of players to be taken down. Starting the battle at once is best, but sometimes due to several reasons, such as login timing etc, it might take time before all members arrive and actually start fighting the monster. In such case, we do not consider this monster holding.

From SE themselves

http://tinyurl.com/yqlbha

I applaud you for being able to take him down with 7 people. I'd be annoyed watching someone fight for hours, but if you can kill it and are actually taking down the HNM... go for it.

[Honorable]

To clarify, when 4 of us were jailed 3 of us had no idea why. One person in our group according to the SGM was told that we were holding and to leave but wouldn't say who because they can't give out player info. And the "we have more on the way" didn't work. They don't care who was on the way they based the decision on what we had there at the time.

You noobed it up, died. End of story. Got any other issues where we raped your face that you'd like to bring up?

[Skyylya]

stupid move on the GM and asshole thing to do by the other LS.

Let's just start banning everyone that solo's or does low number things now cause it takes a while and they are obviously holding.

You all have some serious problems if you are going to bitch at people who are killing something with low numbers and not having any trouble. Not everything should be a zerg kill asap thing every time esp if it's not really by choice they had low numbers but a time frame thing.

[Cichy]

To clarify, when 4 of us were jailed 3 of us had no idea why. One person in our group according to the SGM was told that we were holding and to leave but wouldn't say who because they can't give out player info. And the "we have more on the way" didn't work. They don't care who was on the way they based the decision on what we had there at the time.

Your Aegis pld died at 100% so that leaves 6 and bio 2

[Eanae]

Wonder if we're the only ones who, y'know, stop camping mobs we don't need shit from >_>

nah the person who we were killing it for today just hit 75 PLD like a week ago

So they're not freelot then.

Sure seems like it. Everyone loves to be a cockblock. Shells on Bismarck have something like 50+ Dalmaticas and still go to Turtle. Need those D Feet amirite?

Edit: This other ls sounds like a real winner that's for sure.

[Deevo]

http://tinyurl.com/yqlbha

For example, some Notorious Monsters need a few hours and a large number of players to be taken down. Starting the battle at once is best, but sometimes due to several reasons, such as login timing etc, it might take time before all members arrive and actually start fighting the monster. In such case, we do not consider this monster holding.

From SE themselves

http://tinyurl.com/yqlbha

I applaud you for being able to take him down with 7 people. I'd be annoyed watching someone fight for hours, but if you can kill it and are actually taking down the HNM... go for it.

Thank you for the info.


As far as the flamers from the rival LS go....i'm ignoring it. This thread is to get outside opinions not to start drama competition. This is why you are all on my blist. No one even came close to dying until the GM pulled 4 of us to jail. Of course they started dying when there were only 3 and no healers.

[Honorable]

http://tinyurl.com/yqlbha

For example, some Notorious Monsters need a few hours and a large number of players to be taken down. Starting the battle at once is best, but sometimes due to several reasons, such as login timing etc, it might take time before all members arrive and actually start fighting the monster. In such case, we do not consider this monster holding.

From SE themselves

http://tinyurl.com/yqlbha

I applaud you for being able to take him down with 7 people. I'd be annoyed watching someone fight for hours, but if you can kill it and are actually taking down the HNM... go for it.

Thank you for the info.


As far as the flamers from the rival LS go....i'm ignoring it. This thread is to get outside opinions not to start drama competition. This is why you are all on my blist.

Says the person who started the thread.

[Cichy]

oh come on there is no such thing as enough Fenrir drama on BG

[Honorable]

Yes, he did say that, when he started the thread.

Because a post with the words "Rival Linkshell" and "GM call" dosent start drama at all huh.

[Eanae]

Yes, he did say that, when he started the thread.

Because a post with the words "Rival Linkshell" and "GM call" dosent start drama at all huh.

No, the assholes with the big e-penises that think they're cool because they can claim via a bitch of a GM do.

[Eiladar]

http://tinyurl.com/yqlbha

For example, some Notorious Monsters need a few hours and a large number of players to be taken down. Starting the battle at once is best, but sometimes due to several reasons, such as login timing etc, it might take time before all members arrive and actually start fighting the monster. In such case, we do not consider this monster holding.

From SE themselves

http://tinyurl.com/yqlbha

I applaud you for being able to take him down with 7 people. I'd be annoyed watching someone fight for hours, but if you can kill it and are actually taking down the HNM... go for it.

Thank you for the info.


As far as the flamers from the rival LS go....i'm ignoring it. This thread is to get outside opinions not to start drama competition. This is why you are all on my blist. No one even came close to dying until the GM pulled 4 of us to jail. Of course they started dying when there were only 3 and no healers.

hmmm....

Of course the GM was called by a rival linkshell I guess who hates that we can actually kill Khimaira with 7 instead of wiping

Could have fooled me.

[Honorable]

Yes, he did say that, when he started the thread.

Because a post with the words "Rival Linkshell" and "GM call" dosent start drama at all huh.

No, the assholes with the big e-penises that think they're cool because they can claim via a bitch of a GM do.

Welcome to Fenrir hun