KSNM: Orichalcum Ingot drop rates

[Francisco II]

Does anyone know if any specific KSNM drops Orichalcum Ingots at a higher rate than others? I'm working on Usukane Somen, and need to collect 12 of these... I have more than enough gil to fund them, but they tend to disappear from the AH before I even get a chance to bid on them.

Any help is appreciated. ^^

[aurik]

Royal Ramble has one as a near-guaranteed drop.

[Francisco II]

Figures... isn't that the worst KSNM out there?

[aurik]

If you think its bad check out Today's Horoscope

[Kriz]

I need to make a topic for Today's Horoscope. I really want that mantle.

Got Aries to 20% once with 3 blms and whm and a really dumb ninja.

The other two times were pathetic though. I'll get you someday!

[Spekkio]

i've done horroscope twice now, i believe, and have won both. bring 5 smn and a brd. make a blp order and keep rotating who's close to the mob. this way, you don't risk everyone rushing in and getting petrified at once. keep balading a loooong distance out from him (just make sure everyone's outside of the hate radius when you cast and you're golden. we had problems with our brd pulling hate several times in the fight once.) keep blood pacting predator claws and it will go down fast and easy. if you're bringing a leech, go with 4 smn and a brd, and have the leech come rdm if it's 41 or above or corsair if they have it high enough for evoker's. it's not required, but it helps.

[tyraravenlocke]

Having run a KSNM service, I can tell you no..

They all pretty much have the same drop rate.. Ori Ingots are a semi-common drop in these BC's.

[Kyreth]

May as well do a KSNM 30 that's got other money drops, so you can at least pick up Gil to AH-buy ingots along with the chance of an actual drop.

I usually see about 1/6 O. Ingot doing Operation Desert Swarm runs with my linkshell, just as ancedotal data.

[divisortheory]

royal ramble is actually pretty easy. Just do a melee burn style on it with all melee /NIN, kill the BLM > PLD > WHM (or something like that, just make sure main one is second). RDM can easily kite the other 2 with +movement speed, just make sure that no magic at all is used on anything. No debuffs, no elegy, no dia, nothing.

[Kyreth]

royal ramble is actually pretty easy. Just do a melee burn style on it with all melee /NIN, kill the BLM > PLD > WHM (or something like that, just make sure main one is second). RDM can easily kite the other 2 with +movement speed, just make sure that no magic at all is used on anything. No debuffs, no elegy, no dia, nothing.

I've been curious on doing this one. Why no magic?

[Octavious]

For some reason I have seen O.Ingots quite often in Royal Ramble too. It's not a horrible KSNM but you'll need to make sure you can get them down fast. Also, if your looking for O.Ingots you could always run through Copy Cat, I think (think) that has them dropping there too.

[divisortheory]

royal ramble is actually pretty easy. Just do a melee burn style on it with all melee /NIN, kill the BLM > PLD > WHM (or something like that, just make sure main one is second). RDM can easily kite the other 2 with +movement speed, just make sure that no magic at all is used on anything. No debuffs, no elegy, no dia, nothing.

I've been curious on doing this one. Why no magic?

It hasn't ever been proven that magic is the cause, but sometimes they will go into a mode where you start hitting for 5 damage and they get ridiculous evasion. If any of the 3 cardians goes into that mode, the BC is over, you lost because it would take hours to kill them that way. While magic doesn't force them immediately into that mode (I've won once using magic where they didn't go itno that mode), if no magic is used it seems they'll never go into that mode, or at least in my experience.

When it happens, even logging out and letting them regen to 100% doesn't reset them.

[Theraven]

royal ramble is actually pretty easy. Just do a melee burn style on it with all melee /NIN, kill the BLM > PLD > WHM (or something like that, just make sure main one is second). RDM can easily kite the other 2 with +movement speed, just make sure that no magic at all is used on anything. No debuffs, no elegy, no dia, nothing.

I've been curious on doing this one. Why no magic?

It hasn't ever been proven that magic is the cause, but sometimes they will go into a mode where you start hitting for 5 damage and they get ridiculous evasion. If any of the 3 cardians goes into that mode, the BC is over, you lost because it would take hours to kill them that way. While magic doesn't force them immediately into that mode (I've won once using magic where they didn't go itno that mode), if no magic is used it seems they'll never go into that mode, or at least in my experience.

When it happens, even logging out and letting them regen to 100% doesn't reset them.

Yep, I've done this BC a ton of times and as long as you don't enfeeble them it's really easy to win. We went BLM > PLD > WHM as well. Always had one person come RDM/NIN and pull with stone 1 or something and then take the PLD and WHM back to the BC entrance while we killed the BLM in the actual BC area. RDM/NIN can pretty easily just stand there holding the other 2, no need to kite them so no need for movement speed + equipment. The once the BLM was dead we picked the other ones off one at a time. All melee being /NIN is important but other than that I've won this with all kinds of melee, including DRK and DRG. Sometimes I went BLM sometimes I went RDM (but never the RDM/NIN), and generally our party set up was something like BLM/WHM RDM/WHM NIN RDM/NIN melee melee. /WHM for the one RDM and the BLM is nice to help recover from that aoe damage move they do and generally on the BLM mob the BLM we had would usually be on stun and cure duty, only light nuking here and there. And as stated by Aurik, the drop rate on the orichalcum ingot is damn near 100% (out of the many runs I did it was 100% but I have heard of fluke ones from friends where it didn't) and the trump crown drop rate is relatively high as well, maybe 1/3 on a bad day.

[Shuemue]

I need to make a topic for Today's Horoscope. I really want that mantle.

Got Aries to 20% once with 3 blms and whm and a really dumb ninja.

The other two times were pathetic though. I'll get you someday!

What's so hard about this? Obviously I've never done it, but somepage says sleep/grav/bind all stick. Surely manaburnable?

[Kriz]

It puts itself to sleep all the time, and gravity/bind isn't too useful cause Aries just goes back to sleep and regens.

Oh, and Max HP down is scary.

I think its manaburnable, I just needed to have a tank worth a damn, rather than an extremly bad one.

[Spekkio]

the ram will, iirc, generate a 2 hr dust cloud and go to sleep. at this time, it puts up a stoneskin you have to rip thru to wake it, and meanwhile it's regenning like it's unclaimed for HUGE sums of HP. while it may well be possible to get it under control, it's probably not going to be as easy to cook as double dragonian or ODS. don't be discouraged from trying, but don't bring your B team either. I PITTY DA FOO DAT DOESN'T BRING HIS BEST GAME!

[Kriz]

the ram will, iirc, generate a 2 hr dust cloud and go to sleep. at this time, it puts up a stoneskin you have to rip thru to wake it, and meanwhile it's regenning like it's unclaimed for HUGE sums of HP. while it may well be possible to get it under control, it's probably not going to be as easy to cook as double dragonian or ODS. don't be discouraged from trying, but don't bring your B team either. I PITTY DA FOO DAT DOESN'T BRING HIS BEST GAME!

That's a fact.

I'm going to try it again maybe this weekend. If only it dropped some KS30 weapons people want.

If anyone has ever done it, what's the drop rate on the rare/ex mantle? That's what I'm after...

[Spekkio]

the ram will, iirc, generate a 2 hr dust cloud and go to sleep. at this time, it puts up a stoneskin you have to rip thru to wake it, and meanwhile it's regenning like it's unclaimed for HUGE sums of HP. while it may well be possible to get it under control, it's probably not going to be as easy to cook as double dragonian or ODS. don't be discouraged from trying, but don't bring your B team either. I PITTY DA FOO DAT DOESN'T BRING HIS BEST GAME!

That's a fact.

I'm going to try it again maybe this weekend. If only it dropped some KS30 weapons people want.

If anyone has ever done it, what's the drop rate on the rare/ex mantle? That's what I'm after...

with my tiny sample set of 2 kills, we've seen 2 mantles drop. i don't know if it's 100% or if we just got extremely lucky though. the irony is, the only reason we did it the first time was b/c one of our sams wanted the gondo to play with. lolarm sam is funny. (and not bad at all on greater colibri. it's not a horrible tool in the right situation if you're crazy enough to bother to get one as best i can tell.)