while I have no AV experience outside of watching a few fights to see what people try, I have always been curious if there might even be a pattern to "forcing" an AV pop by meeting certain conditions during the JoL fight.
I know it would seem odd to pop JoL and NOT want AV to pop afterwards, but if a shell was fighting JoL and simply knew they would not have the manpower and/or time to take on AV (if/when its figured out) they could simply ignore the conditions needed to force the pop of AV after defeat of JoL.
If they truly meant AV to be this complex of a puzzle, I could see figuring out the necessary conditions simply to get AV to make an appearance as the first piece of that puzzle.
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