Interview #4

[Sagacious Sundi]

The .dats apparently list Meteor as "Special". This is only what I've read, so take it with a grain of salt.

[Spekkio]

it seems easy enough to test. just load up a heavy ass dark magic resist gear and see if you can survive chelevnik's (sp) final meteor in Horns of War. it's a huge damage meteor, but i doubt that it's unresistable, just that it requires a 1/4 or 1/8 resist to survive the 4k+ damage it's capable of dishing out. alternatively, use something that's totally dark immune, such as diabolos and keep him in range of a meteor. if he dies, there's no way in hell that it's dark based as even a blm 75 in the most obscene gear build will do little damage to an air elemental in tahrongi canyon with aeroga3.

[Therin]

I personally believe AV is actually lower level than Tiamat, so I think resisting Wind-based spells wouldn't be that hard. Meteor is still a problem, since you have no Bar-spells for it (you need ~320-350 to adequately resist spells from other high level mobs, so I would assume you need a similar amount to resist AV), meaning you can't hit the same tier of resistance that you can for Fire and other elements.

Last time I went up against him he was doing 200-300 damage for a non-blocked hit (I was PLD/DRK for JoL, so a subjob change would mean even more survivability), 100-180 for a blocked one, and 400-500 for a critical. Aeroga IV went off on me twice - one did about 900, the other I Ramparted and it did something around 450 or 480.

I think with excellent support, well-geared tanks, and *absolutely perfect* planning (a lot of RNGs, for instance, to Shadowbind destructive two-hours like Chainspell), you can survive AV and hold it indefinitely. With Magic Defense gear and spells, plus Rampart, I think surviving Meteor as a tank shouldn't be tough - I can get Citadel Buster down to ~680 damage with gear and Rampart, and I lack Aegis, so getting Meteor down to ~1200 (the survivable point) shouldn't be hard at all. This issue is of course not allowing other members of your linkshell to get hit by the spells, and if they do, having enough extra WHMs to raise them and extra DDs to put in the alliance to keep the damage up.

~40-50 people with excellent gear and great planning should be able to keep up with AV. You still can't kill it, obviously, because it can Benediction at will - so I guess you're supposed to just keep throwing people at it and not screw up for like ten hours straight without giving up. Maybe you can get lucky and he'll not use Benediction. The absolute virtue must be patience, huh. >_>

[Spekkio]

iirc, at lower HP, he starts to spam meteors back to back. if that's right, even if you could nudge meteor down to 1200 damage, hitting only yourself, you'd have to survive another assault of that instantly, which would be hard to do, especially w/o support due to them having to stand so far back to avoid being clipped by the circle of death you are at the center of.

[Alistaire]

If the JP site lists it as dark it must be light.

[Therin]

iirc, at lower HP, he starts to spam meteors back to back. if that's right, even if you could nudge meteor down to 1200 damage, hitting only yourself, you'd have to survive another assault of that instantly, which would be hard to do, especially w/o support due to them having to stand so far back to avoid being clipped by the circle of death you are at the center of.

Wow, that would suck. >_> lol.

[kuronosan]

Perhaps he takes obscene amounts of damage and has an extremely high regen... and they're not the ones misunderstanding... we are.

Has anyone actually tried halting his regen to see if his regen is the reason he can't be taken down quickly? I imagine if you had an alliance of people you could probably handle him regardless of Meteor-spam if he only has say 100-200k HP. that's about 50-100 2k damage skillchains, minus magic bursts. That's not that much if 6 of your members are melees, 3 are tanks, 3 are support, and 6 are mages. I dunno how much HP AV has (has yet to pop for me) but I imagine based on the benediction pictures I've seen that you could probably damage him more effectively if his regen was 0. There's not really any telling how much damage his regen kicks back up... it could be anywhere from 200/tic to 1000/tic. You figure if you pulled off a light skillchain with a DRK and THF... there's a potential 2k damage right there from the weaponskills alone (depending on their equip build) plus if unresisted the magic bursts from 2-3 BLMs could top 3-5k as well. That's almost 10,000 damage from a single skillchain.

I'd imagine that adds up over time with zero regen. Think of how fast Kirin would die if he had no regen. Those videos of him dying in 30 seconds would be even faster.

[Taruhealingwind]

Perhaps he takes obscene amounts of damage and has an extremely high regen... and they're not the ones misunderstanding... we are.

Has anyone actually tried halting his regen to see if his regen is the reason he can't be taken down quickly? I imagine if you had an alliance of people you could probably handle him regardless of Meteor-spam if he only has say 100-200k HP. that's about 50-100 2k damage skillchains, minus magic bursts. That's not that much if 6 of your members are melees, 3 are tanks, 3 are support, and 6 are mages. I dunno how much HP AV has (has yet to pop for me) but I imagine based on the benediction pictures I've seen that you could probably damage him more effectively if his regen was 0. There's not really any telling how much damage his regen kicks back up... it could be anywhere from 200/tic to 1000/tic. You figure if you pulled off a light skillchain with a DRK and THF... there's a potential 2k damage right there from the weaponskills alone (depending on their equip build) plus if unresisted the magic bursts from 2-3 BLMs could top 3-5k as well. That's almost 10,000 damage from a single skillchain.

I'd imagine that adds up over time with zero regen. Think of how fast Kirin would die if he had no regen. Those videos of him dying in 30 seconds would be even faster.

If it was as simple as you're saying it is AV would be on farm status for a long time.

[kuronosan]

What exactly is the issue then? We're popping JoL this Sunday and I'm already fearing an AV pop.

[Slott]

4k damage meteors that assrape you in the face? 3 x 4k damage mijins from wyverns? Benediction? Hundred fist from a mob that hits harder than jebus? I could go on.

[kuronosan]

Please do. The Mijins and unlimited two hours were totally unknown to me.

[Therin]

Please do. The Mijins and unlimited two hours were totally unknown to me.

Basically, imagine every single spell, two-hour, and attack that you don't want used against you, and then double the strength of each one. Then, give it all to a single mob that has ridiculous defense (at least twice as much a wyrm - 300% SA Gekko = 500 damage) and Regen similar to Jailer of Love. On top of that, give him three pet Wyverns that each cast whatever the fuck they want on you at any given time, and can Mijin themselves for twice the maximum HP of your best geared Galka MNK.

That's AV.

*EDIT* Oh and good luck getting a BLM to do more than 300 damage with a nuke, maybe 400 on burst and 500 if you get a day proc too. But that's highly unlikely.

[Slott]

his regen isnt so bad, it drops significantly after hitting 95%, after that you just have to deal with his bullshit dmg :/

[divisortheory]

his regen isnt so bad, it drops significantly after hitting 95%, after that you just have to deal with his bullshit dmg :/

I don't think 95% has anything to do with it.

[Slott]

Every time we have fought AV his regen was significantly higher over 95%. We would have to kraken zerg him and blm nuke the fuck out of him until he reached 95% After that, his regen rate dropped significantly. We've done it over 20 times and each time it has worked for us (Including in one kill). I think it has a significant part to do with it.

[Lordender]

Need jack bauer to interview those bitches, if you don't tell him what we wanna know he'll put his gun to their knee cap and make a mess.

[Nystul]

The part about AV made me want to shoop da whoop my monitor.

[Koga]

Nice Interview.

[Septimus]

The .dats apparently list Meteor as "Special". This is only what I've read, so take it with a grain of salt.

I remember reading that as well, which would put it as the same type of damage as Chi-Blast and Spirits Within. Only way to be certain would be to look it up in the dat files though.

[divisortheory]

The .dats apparently list Meteor as "Special". This is only what I've read, so take it with a grain of salt.

I remember reading that as well, which would put it as the same type of damage as Chi-Blast and Spirits Within. Only way to be certain would be to look it up in the dat files though.

Just because it's special doesn't automatically mean it's non-elemental though does it? The screenshot from Sirlancealot above is definitely pretty compelling evidence that it can be resisted somehow.