Low man Salvage.

[Demos]

don't use it in all the area lol, but keep pull in silversea, for RDM NM room, to pull gears or other crap, and LAC, in bahflau use to back up tank LBC use sleep, if MNK got HM. problem is that both RDM have BLM75 and SMN75, and I dont really like to use those in salvage...

[Wizerd]

arg sorry I didnt want to mean that, we use a classic set up
MNK/NIN
SAM/NIN or WAR/NIN
THF
RDM/WHM
WHM/NIN
BRD/WHM
RDM/NIN
BLU
BLM


I just wanted to say that imo all set up work for salvage, just need some changement job/subjob for the differents area. That sad to see that so many people give up salvage cause they cant find a MNK for their team :s

Sorry for being critical but what the hell role does your RDM/NIN fulfill?

We use RDM/NIN a lot, it's especially nice on LAC. We used to use it on LBC before we started weakening it

But his setup doesn't look like it'd have any trouble taking down the 10 gears for LBC, nor any trouble killing LAC, with the RDM subbing WHM or BLM.

[Wizerd]

don't use it in all the area lol, but keep pull in silversea, for RDM NM room, to pull gears or other crap, and LAC, in bahflau use to back up tank LBC use sleep, if MNK got HM. problem is that both RDM have BLM75 and SMN75, and I dont really like to use those in salvage...

I don't really like them either, but I've always found more damage (BLM) to be more beneficial than someone who stands around casting the same thing as someone else (half the time that's what happens when you have 2 RDMs in a group... a new mob comes in, and they both enfeeble it, etc). I suppose it's useful to Refresh the BLM and BLU though.

[Demos]

yesturday I was RDM/NIN in SilverSea, @ second floor I kept pulling, I tried to keep all the time 1 mob @ camp, formor there needa lot of dispel, and I dont only Dia 2+ slow2, my friend use Para2 blind and haste his pty, since WHM/NIN mélé against formor ^^
for 3th floor, I can take time to pull mob without linking rampart, and the alliance always hav a slept mob @ camp. I think RDM/NIN done better than a second BLM

[divisortheory]

But his setup doesn't look like it'd have any trouble taking down the 10 gears for LBC, nor any trouble killing LAC, with the RDM subbing WHM or BLM.

I've always found RDM/NIN to be much easier on LAC because it's pretty easy for the RDM to get hate while kiting. BLMs or WHMs without gaiters can easily be 1 or 2 shotted (by the chariot) while trying to kite, and it's nice to have a single target during kiting so that the squishy people don't just keep dropping like flies.

[Kaylia]

back to the topic, the best salvage team is a team with motivated friend, you dont need specific job, we often use WHM/NIN tank/DD RDM/NIN puller/kiter MNK/WHM healer.

It's true motivate friend help a lot, but WHM, RDM, BRD are almost necessary to make a run works. Can get away with 2 rdm, but there isn't hundred of way of healing your party.

I can take time to pull mob without linking rampart, and the alliance always hav a slept mob @ camp. I

How do you sleep mobs? Arent they all imune in SS?

[Demos]

I can take time to pull mob without linking rampart, and the alliance always hav a slept mob @ camp. I

How do you sleep mobs? Arent they all imune in SS?

they are immune to sleep in Zhalyom, not in silver Sea, Sleep Sleep2 work well there, they resist me 1/3 without RDM body too :s

[Kaylia]

I'm retarded. Thought you were talking about fomor pulls. Missed the "rampart" part.

[Demos]

lol for fomor I just pull back to camp if no link and tank till DD finish the other mob, if Link I kite Formor till they kill the Imp ^^

[Kaylia]

Yeah. That's what I usually do on blm/nin in salvage if we have no puller.

[cdgreg]

Great thread, I'm in the process of starting up an in-shell salvage static and im capping our group at 10 aiming to go twice a week. So far its looking like:
blm
brd
whm
rdm
guywithatonofjobsincludingCor
tank
thf
drg
mnk

Most importantly I was wondering how you all distribute armor drops. Off the top of my head I was considering a basic point system, 1 point her run. However, I was wondering if this would even work or would it hinder the completion of peices? I will be putting a lot of time into researching and also wonder if at some point we'll end up seeing more drops than points are applicable? Does anyone use a priority system once a member has a level 35 armor they are moved up the ladder to recieve the other 2 peices faster? Luckily we've all been in our endgame shell together for atleast a year and we're friends so "leader discretion" works, but it's still nice to have a system in place for most circumstances.

edit: question: we had a 10th volunteer and I do not want to say no, he has brd, blu, or blm. I imagine itd be a choice between brd or blu?

[Kaylia]

Member with lv 35 should always have priority on lv 15/25. For lv 35, point system works I guess, or anything, just make sure someone who just joined can't get one asap.

[cdgreg]

Member with lv 35 should always have priority on lv 15/25. For lv 35, point system works I guess, or anything, just make sure someone who just joined can't get one asap.

actually thats quite interesting, I didnt think of using the points *only* for the 35. Good idea

[Kaylia]

Member with lv 35 should always have priority on lv 15/25. For lv 35, point system works I guess, or anything, just make sure someone who just joined can't get one asap.

actually thats quite interesting, I didnt think of using the points *only* for the 35. Good idea

Salvage group are never big, so make sure to know what everyone is aiming for, and give them lv 25 first if they drop before lv 35. Don't let lv 25 go to waste, but they aren't hard to get either.

[Arthars]

My ideal 6-man pt is mnk mnk thf rdm whm brd. Thf for TH on the way up.

i think aurik says it all

if your asking for ideal, thats the ideal

if you have a spare BLM to the above, thats PERFECT

having trouble finding 2nd MNK? meripo NIN will do

salvage too easy atm to think too much of who cell first, what if this, what if no cells and that etc

i think all zones have routes to cater for shitty days whereby you dont get lucky on cells, YET able to kill all needed NMs and boss

lastly, THF damage is good on gears, they kinda weak to piercing. If you have a ridill THF, he/she prolly will solve all your damage problems. if not, ITS STILL FINE. And never do salvage w/o thief. Why make your life difficult and waste 1500 AP?

If your group have more than 7-8 people, just treat the 9th - Xth player as imaginary /cheer party. They are not important and is not IDEAL.

and for the poster, ur setup is perfectly fine. Just need one of the DD(prolly PLD) to use thf for your local treasure hunter delight.

[Wizerd]

MNK MNK WAR WHM RDM BRD
THF BLM

is my ideal setup. Additional member or members as BLMs, up to 2 more. Works very well for any zone, any boss, any goal, and kills very fast and efficiently. WAR is nice for a provoke, since MNK hits don't always necessarily get hate off of mages after a mob's been slept a few times or what have you.


I did a Silver Seas today with 11, wasn't very fun for 2 of our members.. second WHM and second RDM never got magic cell until just before Citadel Chelonian, I felt kinda sorry for them. Next time I'll clear the entirety of 1F if we bring that many. :/