Items, Grips, and Misc Info Gathering Thread

[Credos]

Trolled, ya sure......How does that not make you a moron again?

I did it for the lulz. Its been fucking boring on chans.

So you were just trolling?

I like where this is headed.

If he's a troll he's really good cause I thought he was just retarded

"Be careful about what you say next spartan, these may be your last words as a king" comes to mind.

[Shuvo]

lol isn't Kattice the same person who tried to stir shit up on BG over Genbu drama?

edit: Found it!

[Coldone]

You didn't even read. lawl.

Read it again and MAYBE your little brain can process it.

Drg gets a boost cause they are piercing. Birds are weak to piercing. End of story. THF is naturally at a disadvantage when trying to play catch up to them

DAGGER IS PIERCING MORON

The WS is piercing? I always thought the Relic weapons were different, can you give a source that says mercy stroke is piercing?

To quote Dives. "Its a warm fuzzy feeling to know that I will never be as stupid as that person"

[Intense]

In Soviet FFXI Drg LOLs you!

I LOL'd

[Ryko]

This made me lol....

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[Tomiko]

This made me lol....

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Apparently Imageshack doesn't want me to get spoiled. (Image not found)

[Ryko]

Brainfarted, link works now.

[Sagacious Sundi]

This made me lol....

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"Is this the dawn of Ragnorak...!?" (fitting) + "he can win spear got boosted" = win

[Drace]

Win
m(_ _)m

*sigh* You guys are so easily trolled.

I'll level with you only cause I feel sorry for ya.

If you use the formulas it becomes apparent why Penta Thrust > Mercy Stroke. Update was well done, it needed it to balance the game and actually bring some realistic use of the weapons back. Also, it finally adds some use for the RACE differences in the game. Aside from the INT difference from elvaan to taru the difference was small for the melee damage side.

Final Fantasy XI Update (8/30/2007)
Several issues arose as a result of the recent version update. In an effort to compromise and continue to improve the game, the following issues have been examined and adjusted:

- An issue where players using two-handed weapons would deal too much damage has been fixed.
- An issue where the weapon "Soboro Sukehiro" was incorrectly affecting weaponskills has been fixed.
- The difficulty of the battlefield "Nashmeira's Plea" has been adjusted.
- A bonus has been added to the final reward for completing Aht Urhgan missions.
- The properties of the dagger weaponskills "Mercy Stroke" have been changed from "piercing" to "blunt".
- An issue where "Dancing Edge" would incorrectly deal piercing damage against flying enemies has been fixed.
- A new quest, "Pretending to Troll", has been added in Halvung. The rewards for this quest have been added to the auto-translate list.

Known issues:
- Monks and Ninjas currently deal less damage than two-handed weapon users. This issues is currently being examined and will be fixed as soon as possible.
- Players with "Katt" and "ice" in their name occasionally make retarded fucking comments. This issue is currently in the process of being resolved but there is no timetable for completion.

[Tomiko]

Cool screenshot

Maybe spoilerish
Ukko is working with Odin!?
Maybe spoilerish

[AzazaelFenrir]

*sigh* You guys are so easily trolled.

I'll level with you only cause I feel sorry for ya.

If you use the formulas it becomes apparent why Penta Thrust > Mercy Stroke. Update was well done, it needed it to balance the game and actually bring some realistic use of the weapons back. Also, it finally adds some use for the RACE differences in the game. Aside from the INT difference from elvaan to taru the difference was small for the melee damage side.

Final Fantasy XI Update (8/30/2007)
Several issues arose as a result of the recent version update. In an effort to compromise and continue to improve the game, the following issues have been examined and adjusted:

- An issue where players using two-handed weapons would deal too much damage has been fixed.
- An issue where the weapon "Soboro Sukehiro" was incorrectly affecting weaponskills has been fixed.
- The difficulty of the battlefield "Nashmeira's Plea" has been adjusted.
- A bonus has been added to the final reward for completing Aht Urhgan missions.
- The properties of the dagger weaponskills "Mercy Stroke" have been changed from "piercing" to "blunt".
- An issue where "Dancing Edge" would incorrectly deal piercing damage against flying enemies has been fixed.
- A new quest, "Pretending to Troll", has been added in Halvung. The rewards for this quest have been added to the auto-translate list.

Known issues:
- Monks and Ninjas currently deal less damage than two-handed weapon users. This issues is currently being examined and will be fixed as soon as possible.
- Players with "Katt" and "ice" in their name occasionally make retarded fucking comments. This issue is currently in the process of being resolved but there is no timetable for completion.

Great work, I almost chocked on my popcorn while reading that.

[Kyreth]

You didn't even read. lawl.

Read it again and MAYBE your little brain can process it.

Drg gets a boost cause they are piercing. Birds are weak to piercing. End of story. THF is naturally at a disadvantage when trying to play catch up to them

DAGGER IS PIERCING MORON

Downsized to turn down the cruise control for cool.

Did you read the rest of the post? He's saying THF is at a disadvantage because 2H weapon > 1H weapon, all other things being equal. That they're both piercing is equal, but Polearm damage > dagger damage, so DRG > THF.

[Tomiko]

You didn't even read. lawl.

Read it again and MAYBE your little brain can process it.

Drg gets a boost cause they are piercing. Birds are weak to piercing. End of story. THF is naturally at a disadvantage when trying to play catch up to them

DAGGER IS PIERCING MORON

Downsized to turn down the cruise control for cool.

Did you read the rest of the post? He's saying THF is at a disadvantage because 2H weapon > 1H weapon, all other things being equal. That they're both piercing is equal, but Polearm damage > dagger damage, so DRG > THF.

I don't know if you got whooshed or if you're trying to whoosh me.

Someone hlep!

Edit: For reference:

You didn't even read. lawl.

Read it again and MAYBE your little brain can process it.

Drg gets a boost cause they are piercing. Birds are weak to piercing. End of story. THF is naturally at a disadvantage when trying to play catch up to them

DAGGER IS PIERCING MORON

The WS is piercing? I always thought the Relic weapons were different, can you give a source that says mercy stroke is piercing?

Pretty sure he thought (or was acting ) like it wasn't piercing damage for the thf.

[layoneil]

He's saying THF is at a disadvantage because 2H weapon > 1H weapon, all other things being equal. That they're both piercing is equal, but Polearm damage > dagger damage, so DRG > THF.

all other things are not equal, ever heard of something called Delay? that difference should make them comparable with most of the discrepancies coming from gear, food and song/roll choice.

[Daahan]

Someone mentioned that there should be a "BG Hall of Fucking Morons"? Well, if you're an old timer, you'll remember Legendary Retardation by Kuno. I'll get together with Pew Master Kuno of the Council of Yin and we'll revive that thread and it's newest member, Kattice.

As far as all the damage changes go, I'll have to wholeheartedly agree with Ryko on this one. I have both WAR and DRG leveled and I'm excited that DRG can do a lot more now, but the whole idea that people can K-mart their way in to good damage doesn't sound very fun. There are people who have worked hard to get what they have, but it doesn't really matter that much now. I don't think some K-mart DRG or DRK will be able to pull out higher parses than a E.body, Ridill WAR/NIN, but take a regular WAR like me for example. I have good gear, not exemplary, but good. Maneater, Joytoy, Haub+1, Haidate, Hecatomb Feet Hands, AF2 hands, Brutal, Suppa, Flame Rings, Woodsmans, Bomb Core. Now you're telling me that my extremely average DRG has the potential to match up to that?

What kind of gear obtained needs to be incorporated in to how well a job does. Two-handed fix was necessary, but they went overboard when it came to damage calculations.

I'm not freaking out or anything, because if you asked me I'd say there's a pretty good chance that there will be some kind of emergency maintenance to mellow down the effects that were added in the patch.

[Kyreth]

Damn. After that, and two people STILL bit. At least one nibbled.

Clarity note: Yes, my original post was for lulz. THF shouldn't feel like someone hit them with a shrinking peen curse because Dragoons just got to start posting higher numbers.

But you gotta admit- it gives 2H weapon use a point in meriting now. Because the best debuff is making a monster dead, dead, dead and SAM/DRG/DRK/WAR can pull it off now with style and power. I honestly don't think it's broke. I think it's peachy keen right now. 2 handers needed to hit like a truck (with or without Bezerk(er) or other such buffs). Now they do.

Adjust a bit. Let's relish the fact that some jobs that really, REALLY needed the help are now freaking useful in general play. That some weapon types are now no longer mockeries of the "big as a house, hits like a mouse" variety. I'm honestly curious what this did to Staff for MNK's- if it actually becomes a decently viable option.

And as far as AH-2hander types bringing up the big numbers...well, I'm waiting to see what a truly kitted out 2hander job is going to be able to generate. Could we see WS'es breaking 4K?

[Alyriel]

So many threads, not really sure if it belongs in this one but:

I saw a couple synth recipes for the new beastmen hats, has anyone seen/heard/know the recipes for all of them yet (QQ hat specifically), also, is it a quest like the other beastmen hats? or are all the mats available from AH/farming?

[Ganzar]

Better gear is still going to be better damage.

AH SAM/DRK/DRG catching up to superbly equiped DW WARs? Take your superb equipment and strap on a great axe and be that much better.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

As far as all the damage changes go, I'll have to wholeheartedly agree with Ryko on this one. I have both WAR and DRG leveled and I'm excited that DRG can do a lot more now, but the whole idea that people can K-mart their way in to good damage doesn't sound very fun. There are people who have worked hard to get what they have, but it doesn't really matter that much now. I don't think some K-mart DRG or DRK will be able to pull out higher parses than a E.body, Ridill WAR/NIN, but take a regular WAR like me for example. I have good gear, not exemplary, but good. Maneater, Joytoy, Haub+1, Haidate, Hecatomb Feet Hands, AF2 hands, Brutal, Suppa, Flame Rings, Woodsmans, Bomb Core. Now you're telling me that my extremely average DRG has the potential to match up to that?

Think of it this way: A completely average WAR could have beaten a pimped out DRG before.

So yes, your extremely average DRG should have the potential to match up to that just as much as your WAR had the potential to stomp your DRG before. It's sort of the same problem but reversed except since people already used WARs on stuff we know WARs are extremely usable already on HNMs and merits.

[NynJa]

Better gear is still going to be better damage.

AH SAM/DRK/DRG catching up to superbly equiped DW WARs? Take your superb equipment and strap on a great axe and be that much better.

BRILLIANT

And what the fuck are MNK THF NIN supposed to go ??