Monk nerf :(

[XxSlusherxx]

Think we just witnessed an Aurik Woosh!

[Seditedi]

Wtf do you care about damage on TW or EP mobs... lol.......................................

[Delekii]

Wtf do you care about damage on TW or EP mobs... lol.......................................

Because damage on TW or EP mobs shows us exactly how we can work out damage on high level mobs where variables fluctuate a lot more?

I doubt Blue spells often reach 2.4 pdif without crit anyway, thank god, since no minuet or anything to raise their attack..

[NynJa]

lol, missed the mandau spiders joke completely

some douchebag sam was on the colibris, took the first mob I could find.

[Fallso]

Wtf do you care about damage on TW or EP mobs... lol.......................................

Cause that's the only sure fire way to test if pdif has changed. God.

[Seditedi]

People seem to be crying about this, highly doubt it will affect an exp mob or higher. WS damage doesn't appear to be capped though, SAM in ls talking about 1703 Gekko's on Too Weak lol, non SA'ed but hes got Full Overwhelm merits.

[Lawliet]

Wonder how all these weapon changes will affect ballista. Diorama, quick!

[Shuemue]

People seem to be crying about this, highly doubt it will affect an exp mob or higher. WS damage doesn't appear to be capped though, SAM in ls talking about 1703 Gekko's on Too Weak lol, non SA'ed but hes got Full Overwhelm merits.

That's awesome, monks and 1 handed weapon users =/= samurai

[Delekii]

People seem to be crying about this, highly doubt it will affect an exp mob or higher. WS damage doesn't appear to be capped though, SAM in ls talking about 1703 Gekko's on Too Weak lol, non SA'ed but hes got Full Overwhelm merits.

Since there are entire threads dedicated to how much attack you need to cap your pDIF on merit mobs, it is a Definite that this WILL affect exp mob. It isn't that hard to cap attack, especially now that COR rolls are worth a damn.

[Ferien]

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...827_215122.png

Visual confirmation w/ Maneater.

[Seditedi]

People seem to be crying about this, highly doubt it will affect an exp mob or higher. WS damage doesn't appear to be capped though, SAM in ls talking about 1703 Gekko's on Too Weak lol, non SA'ed but hes got Full Overwhelm merits.

That's awesome, monks and 1 handed weapon users =/= samurai

Someone was saying dmg was capping with Byakko's Axe as well, last I checked Great Axe was a 2 hand weapon.

[Shuemue]

Aurik needs to hurry the fuck up and get home and restore my faith in the universe.

(oh and a loltarumnk punches harder than your axe hits ^ )

[Shuemue]

People seem to be crying about this, highly doubt it will affect an exp mob or higher. WS damage doesn't appear to be capped though, SAM in ls talking about 1703 Gekko's on Too Weak lol, non SA'ed but hes got Full Overwhelm merits.

That's awesome, monks and 1 handed weapon users =/= samurai

Someone was saying dmg was capping with Byakko's Axe as well, last I checked Great Axe was a 2 hand weapon.

But differently, with identical dmg from both regular swings and crits.

(and oh yeah, what's the thread called?)

[Koyangi]

Oddly enough, I used to farm a few NM's awhile back as MNK/THF, because I'd kill much faster than any other job I had, and I'd never surpass 189 damage on a single hit... (on tw placeholders), what I think happened now is that the damage is consistent instead of random with highs and lows.

[Priran]

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6156/onoeszc2.jpg
oh noes


really though, it just sounds like the coding for the 2h adjustments was done by the same sauced-up moonmonkey SE usually assigns to work on the coding that will fuck up random other parts of the game if done wrong

[Shuvo]

Time to drop our Suppas for Abyssals Earrings?!? +5 Scythe skill ftl

[aurik]

My understanding of what's changed:

Pre-update pDIF:
1) cRatio = f(atk, def)
2) cRatio_cap = max( 2.0, cRatio )
3) pDIF = cRatio_cap + rnd(-0.4, 0.6) + crit?1.0:0.0
4) pDIF_cap = max (3.0, pDIF)

Post-update pDIF:
1) cRatio = f(atk, def)
2) pDIF = cRatio_cap + rnd(-0.4, 0.6) + crit?1.0:0.0
3) pDIF_cap = max (2h?3.0:2.0, pDIF)

Result: 1h aren't that nerfed, except if you were all the way against the attack cap before. Against tough stuff you won't see a difference.

However, 2h weapons are insanely boosted, especially since dex=acc now, meaning shit like adaberk, rajas ring, osode, byakko haidate, hecatomb, etc are fucking incredible.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

My understanding of what's changed:

Pre-update pDIF:
1) cRatio = f(atk, def)
2) cRatio_cap = max( 2.0, cRatio )
3) pDIF = cRatio_cap + rnd(-0.4, 0.6) + crit?1.0:0.0
4) pDIF_cap = max (3.0, pDIF)

Post-update pDIF:
1) cRatio = f(atk, def)
2) pDIF = cRatio_cap + rnd(-0.4, 0.6) + crit?1.0:0.0
3) pDIF_cap = max (2h?3.0:2.0, pDIF)

Result: 1h aren't that nerfed, except if you were all the way against the attack cap before. Against tough stuff you won't see a difference.

However, 2h weapons are insanely boosted, especially since dex=acc now, meaning shit like adaberk, rajas ring, osode, byakko haidate, hecatomb, etc are fucking incredible.

All true except the dex=acc part

[aurik]

My understanding of what's changed:

Pre-update pDIF:
1) cRatio = f(atk, def)
2) cRatio_cap = max( 2.0, cRatio )
3) pDIF = cRatio_cap + rnd(-0.4, 0.6) + crit?1.0:0.0
4) pDIF_cap = max (3.0, pDIF)

Post-update pDIF:
1) cRatio = f(atk, def)
2) pDIF = cRatio_cap + rnd(-0.4, 0.6) + crit?1.0:0.0
3) pDIF_cap = max (2h?3.0:2.0, pDIF)

Result: 1h aren't that nerfed, except if you were all the way against the attack cap before. Against tough stuff you won't see a difference.

However, 2h weapons are insanely boosted, especially since dex=acc now, meaning shit like adaberk, rajas ring, osode, byakko haidate, hecatomb, etc are fucking incredible.

All true except the dex=acc part

viewforum.php?f=2 says 1 dex -> 1 acc.

[Delekii]

viewforum.php?f=2 says 1 dex -> 1 acc.

Logic says thats both pretty unlikely and very broken if it's true, though I haven't tested it yet :S

That would give 2h users +~30 acc naked, not even counting dex+ gear..