Monk nerf :(

[GSDragoon]

So I guess 2hand weapon users can be lol'd now if they don't TP in Thunder Rings? :lol: If the 1 DEX = 1 Acc thing is true that would seem to make DEX builds look rather appealing.

Ouch, makes sniper's useless...

[ringthree]

So I guess 2hand weapon users can be lol'd now if they don't TP in Thunder Rings? If the 1 DEX = 1 Acc thing is true that would seem to make DEX builds look rather appealing.

To the admins: Once all this discovering is finished, can we make a sticky with something like "SHIT CHANGED IN 9/27 PATCH"? So many threads, when we figure it out conclusively it would be nice to pin up somewhere. @.@ I quote this post cause I'm particularly interested but now I must go fish through the other thread too. Be nice to have it all in one place.

Yes, please, all of this is confusion.

[Ploid]

So I guess 2hand weapon users can be lol'd now if they don't TP in Thunder Rings? If the 1 DEX = 1 Acc thing is true that would seem to make DEX builds look rather appealing.

Ouch, makes sniper's useless...

The one handers still need snipers. Not totally useless. This is awesome.

[Quizno]

That, and as far as I can tell, Snipers are a bit lower level than Lv74 Thunder rings, or Lv 72 HQ rings.

[Weeks]

This is awesome, if you're a Wal-Mart DRG/DRK/SAM/WAR.

If you've actually put a little effort into this game and now Square just sat every other DRG/DRK/SAM/WARs on a booster seat so they can play at your table, not so much.

[weatherproof]

OP's a clown

[Ploid]

I wonder how well drgs do on HNMs now. They got all the Accu and Atk they probably need. Things are going to get interesting in the next few days. Sams doing 2k weaponskills in exp, 1000+ with soboro (I need to get me one of dees).

[Shuemue]

OP's a clown

Get a post count before you talk shit about me, kid.

[weatherproof]

mod says: stop picking fights

[Quizno]

Lol mr bid bag boss nigga with is 500ish postcount, you're a joke SHuemo

This sort of thing has never been done on the internet.

[rydiu]

Some people just can't help it...

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[Shuvo]

Goddamnit, was gonna buy out all the rune choppers on AH when I was back home from work, but they're already shooting up to 200k+

http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=18206&sid=8

[Max™]

I noticed in Beadeaux as I went to hunt a Coffer key for my lolmnk, just 66+19 Str in my random War/Sam farming Gear, Byakko's Axe, capped Gaxe.

327 Damage!
Crit! 327 Damage!
327 Damage!
327 Damage!

>.>

I know these aren't lvl 0 mobs outside of towns, they're like lvl 20? That's a pretty big adjustment.

Looking like they altered Damage calculation formulas left and right huh?

[Jotaru]

pDIF is being hit easier, as I'm hearing. Then again, I'm no dmg formula worker, I just relate what I hear.

[Max™]

My timing is awesome.

I've got a very nicely equipped lvl 57 Monk, and now this hits and my Byakko's axe is calling to me.

>.<

[Ploid]

Goddamnit, was gonna buy out all the rune choppers on AH when I was back home from work, but they're already shooting up to 200k+

http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=18206&sid=8

Ha glad I got my rune chopper and pretty every other cheap ah item I'll probably need. It's good to be a pack rat at times. Although I do believe I tossed my Ushi gkt. Not sure about the new formula of sam big 3 weaponskills but if it's at all useful now (over onimaru) I'm screwed.

[Fawkes]

This is awesome, if you're a Wal-Mart DRG/DRK/SAM/WAR.

If you've actually put a little effort into this game and now Square just sat every other DRG/DRK/SAM/WARs on a booster seat so they can play at your table, not so much.

[Dementia]

I think this whole thing with 2h weapon jobs doing outrageous numbers just confused a lot of people. Correct me if I'm wrong, but has any MNK ever put out #s like that? I thought MNK and Asuran Fists has been limited for a long time by the lack of criticals in Asuran and our general weapon damage? It really may just be my, but I've never put out 3k+ Asuran Fists as MNK/WAR or MNK/NIN; but I've seen it done by WAR with Rampage and some pretty close #s by NIN with Jin. MNK has never had a strength of damage per WS compared to most other jobs, and nothing I've done today as MNK has made me feel 'inferior'. I was still attacking really fast, still putting out 100-200dmg/hit, still doing WS for over 1K, and still tanking... what has changed?

The only time I ever broke 2K was in Apollyon SE, and I'm not sure I have ever seen a fist land for more than 300 damage. Maybe I am the only MNK who played around on weak enemies before, but there isn't really anything I've seen so far that seems at all different. Even doing DL as MNK/WAR with Angon and over 900 base attack thanks to Zerk+SV Minuetx2 didn't even put me over 100 dmg/fist without criticals or over 1K Asuran Fist, and other jobs were still able to pull off 1-3K dmg WS. So what is the big deal? We aren't a 'one-hit wonder' job. We never have been and I doubt we will ever be, but our DOT is what has always kept us on par with WAR who can do 1.5-2x our WS dmg, and it will be what will keep us on part against all of these other jobs that just entered the realm of good damage.

[cassiraa]

It really may just be my, but I've never put out 3k+ Asuran Fists as MNK/WAR or MNK/NIN; but I've seen it done by WAR with Rampage and some pretty close #s by NIN with Jin.

NIN are lucky to break 1400 in most cases, and I've not seen a WAR break 1800 outside of Boreal Hound or Open-mouth Hpemde.

But you're right, not as much may be changed as it seems right now, Only time will tell.

[Sonomaa]

considering renaming this topic to the 1h weapon nerf

seriously though, Ill keep up with the 2hers with my ridill, Im not worried
this just means I can let mich come on DRG more often and actually enjoy himself
(and I can come on ranger since sidewiggle still ownsss /pawpaw )