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    Re: Despot

    I saw a report on alla from a BST that upon zoning Despot, it depopped rather than walk back to an alcove. Thats the only data so far, and it wasnt confirmed by anyone else yet.

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    Re: Despot

    LS and I got chain 60 up and down the alcove for about 30 min waiting for full aliance to show up. No pop, but there had been a BST solo'ing there just before we started. We went to kill Faust, but by the time we got there he was gone... and no sign of another LS. Was kind of weird, not sure what to make of it. Anyway, we went back to despot to regroup and decide what god to kill, and casually pulled statues like before and he pop'd after the 4th one.

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylorman
    LS and I got chain 60 up and down the alcove for about 30 min waiting for full aliance to show up. No pop, but there had been a BST solo'ing there just before we started. We went to kill Faust, but by the time we got there he was gone... and no sign of another LS. Was kind of weird, not sure what to make of it. Anyway, we went back to despot to regroup and decide what god to kill, and casually pulled statues like before and he pop'd after the 4th one.
    More proof that a monster needs to turn into a PH with time?

    Something must be up with it.

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by evilpaul
    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by evilpaul
    I killed it earlier about 3 hours after it last died...
    Ix'DRG?
    No, Despot. (I think I just got wooshed )

    We were there killing them gilseller style with 5-8 pulled and ga3ing them down. A guy in LS had ToD and said it was about three hours later. He still seems to like his Panzerfausts, I got a crit and two of them to the face to prove it. If he readied any, but didn't use them I didn't notice.

    Two random Despot-related questions:
    1) What happens if somebody wipes to Despot and nobody reclaims? Does he just wander back to the alcove he came from? (I've never seen it happen, so I really have no idea.)
    2) Did they fix something with keeping -ga'd mobs all claimed? I don't recall seeing any yellow and I don't think we could have all been targetting different ones.
    Yes, you got wooshed.

    Ix'DRG can pop almost immediately after the last spawn or it can be hours, the spawn time for it is not like most NM's.

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by pogle
    I saw a report on alla from a BST that upon zoning Despot, it depopped rather than walk back to an alcove. Thats the only data so far, and it wasnt confirmed by anyone else yet.
    Thats essentially like SC.

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    Re: Despot

    Sorry if someone has said this already; is it posible he can now pop at any of the Blue windows in Sky? Or prehaps more of them?
    Would make farming it a real pain lol.

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by spooky
    Sorry if someone has said this already; is it posible he can now pop at any of the Blue windows in Sky? Or prehaps more of them?
    Would make farming it a real pain lol.
    Or even the free-standing statues near the old alcoves.

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Quote Originally Posted by Taylorman
    LS and I got chain 60 up and down the alcove for about 30 min waiting for full aliance to show up. No pop, but there had been a BST solo'ing there just before we started. We went to kill Faust, but by the time we got there he was gone... and no sign of another LS. Was kind of weird, not sure what to make of it. Anyway, we went back to despot to regroup and decide what god to kill, and casually pulled statues like before and he pop'd after the 4th one.
    More proof that a monster needs to turn into a PH with time?

    Something must be up with it.
    I doubt it. We were fighting PHs for awhile with another group, as soon as the other grup left, it popped. We left and cleared out sky, did KV, came back 3hrs+ later and mass-killed PHs for about 2hrs or more and no pop. We were the last ppl to kill it, nobody else was in Sky after we killed either. (was kinda late night group)

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by evilpaul
    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by evilpaul
    I killed it earlier about 3 hours after it last died...
    Ix'DRG?
    No, Despot. (I think I just got wooshed )

    We were there killing them gilseller style with 5-8 pulled and ga3ing them down. A guy in LS had ToD and said it was about three hours later. He still seems to like his Panzerfausts, I got a crit and two of them to the face to prove it. If he readied any, but didn't use them I didn't notice.

    Two random Despot-related questions:
    1) What happens if somebody wipes to Despot and nobody reclaims? Does he just wander back to the alcove he came from? (I've never seen it happen, so I really have no idea.)
    2) Did they fix something with keeping -ga'd mobs all claimed? I don't recall seeing any yellow and I don't think we could have all been targetting different ones.
    Yes, you got wooshed.

    Ix'DRG can pop almost immediately after the last spawn or it can be hours, the spawn time for it is not like most NM's.
    Slightly OT, but SE ninja'd Ix'DRG to have the same style of pop conditions as Despot, as he now spawns claimed & auto-aggro'd to the ally that killed the aern to pop it...

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaru
    I'd like to use this thread to officially say fuck you to everyone who bitched and cried about Despot before.
    Yea, I too miss the days of killing PH's for two hours, just to have some JP LS roll in, camp their 18 members in front of Despot pops, and claim him within a few minutes without ever having to lift a finger, while others in our LS got our vokes stolen by the new claim system. For the work you put in to popping him, it turned into a giant game of chance who got him when he actually popped. Was huge fun.
    Not my fault you sucked at claiming him. You kill a few and camp your claimers in front of the portals. ToD the kills and spam when he pops.

    Now you kill for 7hrs instead of the 2hrs and don't even see him pop. Instead though, after you kill 200-500 dolls you now get the solo BST who kills one and gets Despot to pop to him claimed. You cried about the easy way and now you got it worse, thanks. ^^b
    I totally agree with Judai on this, I really dont see any fix here..

    Old Despot - Everyone stands around PH waiting for Despot to pop so they can voke him.

    New Despot - Everyone stands around PH waiting for PH to po so they can voke it, kill it, and pray Despot appears. (except now it could take a lot longer)

    I also think they should make it like Ulli now, with pop items, but they could drop from any Groundskeepers in sky.

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by Skan
    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaru
    I'd like to use this thread to officially say fuck you to everyone who bitched and cried about Despot before.
    Yea, I too miss the days of killing PH's for two hours, just to have some JP LS roll in, camp their 18 members in front of Despot pops, and claim him within a few minutes without ever having to lift a finger, while others in our LS got our vokes stolen by the new claim system. For the work you put in to popping him, it turned into a giant game of chance who got him when he actually popped. Was huge fun.
    Not my fault you sucked at claiming him. You kill a few and camp your claimers in front of the portals. ToD the kills and spam when he pops.

    Now you kill for 7hrs instead of the 2hrs and don't even see him pop. Instead though, after you kill 200-500 dolls you now get the solo BST who kills one and gets Despot to pop to him claimed. You cried about the easy way and now you got it worse, thanks. ^^b
    I totally agree with Judai on this, I really dont see any fix here..

    Old Despot - Everyone stands around PH waiting for Despot to pop so they can voke him.

    New Despot - Everyone stands around PH waiting for PH to po so they can voke it, kill it, and pray Despot appears. (except now it could take a lot longer)

    I also think they should make it like Ulli now, with pop items, but they could drop from any Groundskeepers in sky.

    Or, just a wacky thought, they could keep the pop condition the way it is now, just have it go back to its old pop conditions. (I.E. Spawns claimed when you kill Groundskeepers 2-4 hours after its last death.)

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Or, just a wacky thought, they could keep the pop condition the way it is now, just have it go back to its old pop conditions. (I.E. Spawns claimed when you kill Groundskeepers 2-4 hours after its last death.)
    That would work fine but my point was, people cried about something that wasn't bad. Fighting for a NM that pops every 2-4 hrs is nothing, especially when there are plenty of times nobody is there and he's easy to get. Now, because people cried, SE broke it and it's worse.

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha
    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by evilpaul
    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by evilpaul
    I killed it earlier about 3 hours after it last died...
    Ix'DRG?
    No, Despot. (I think I just got wooshed )

    We were there killing them gilseller style with 5-8 pulled and ga3ing them down. A guy in LS had ToD and said it was about three hours later. He still seems to like his Panzerfausts, I got a crit and two of them to the face to prove it. If he readied any, but didn't use them I didn't notice.

    Two random Despot-related questions:
    1) What happens if somebody wipes to Despot and nobody reclaims? Does he just wander back to the alcove he came from? (I've never seen it happen, so I really have no idea.)
    2) Did they fix something with keeping -ga'd mobs all claimed? I don't recall seeing any yellow and I don't think we could have all been targetting different ones.
    Yes, you got wooshed.

    Ix'DRG can pop almost immediately after the last spawn or it can be hours, the spawn time for it is not like most NM's.
    Slightly OT, but SE ninja'd Ix'DRG to have the same style of pop conditions as Despot, as he now spawns claimed & auto-aggro'd to the ally that killed the aern to pop it...
    DRG has been like that for years, more then likely you were out of range when it popped the other times, thus it popping yellow and not agro'd. This can be observed on temperence also.

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Or, just a wacky thought, they could keep the pop condition the way it is now, just have it go back to its old pop conditions. (I.E. Spawns claimed when you kill Groundskeepers 2-4 hours after its last death.)
    That would work fine but my point was, people cried about something that wasn't bad. Fighting for a NM that pops every 2-4 hrs is nothing, especially when there are plenty of times nobody is there and he's easy to get. Now, because people cried, SE broke it and it's worse.
    This used to be true before the Ulli pop item. Since then Despot has become the new Ulli and is camped 24/7 on my server. So in reality they broke Despot when they fixed Ulli.

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    Re: Despot

    Despot was fine once the latest gilseller ban went thru. They were very successful at monopolizing despot for a while there, but when they disappeared it was (mostly) back to the old despot situation, people taking turns at him, not having to camp alcoves or anything; even BSTs had a fair shot again. There were a few monkeys who would try and steal despot by standing at alcoves while you killed PHs, but they weren't hard to get around. There was no reason for this change so long as they kept wielding the banstick effectively.

    I just wish my LS had started doing sky earlier so we'dve had a chance to accumulate several despot stones. We only managed one before the broke him, and the haidate line ain't getting any shorter still...

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Or, just a wacky thought, they could keep the pop condition the way it is now, just have it go back to its old pop conditions. (I.E. Spawns claimed when you kill Groundskeepers 2-4 hours after its last death.)
    That would work fine but my point was, people cried about something that wasn't bad. Fighting for a NM that pops every 2-4 hrs is nothing, especially when there are plenty of times nobody is there and he's easy to get. Now, because people cried, SE broke it and it's worse.
    Actually, they made it so it was more like it used to be before RMT took over sky. They just reversed Ulli and Despot (though I think Despots spawn time is still better than the old, old Ullikummi that used to spawn in the center of the room.)

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    Re: Despot

    Bumping old thread just to see if there was any ground made with Despot. Our sky run was rather annoying due to the fact we couldn't spawn Despot for 4.5 hours (at least we got other things) using a lot of different methods. Is he just a stupid lottery pop now, cause that would suck a lot...

    Additonally, we were the only ones up there during the duration of the entire sky run.

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    Re: Despot

    Quote Originally Posted by evilpaul
    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by evilpaul
    I killed it earlier about 3 hours after it last died...
    Ix'DRG?
    No, Despot. (I think I just got wooshed )

    We were there killing them gilseller style with 5-8 pulled and ga3ing them down. A guy in LS had ToD and said it was about three hours later. He still seems to like his Panzerfausts, I got a crit and two of them to the face to prove it. If he readied any, but didn't use them I didn't notice.

    Two random Despot-related questions:
    1) What happens if somebody wipes to Despot and nobody reclaims? Does he just wander back to the alcove he came from? (I've never seen it happen, so I really have no idea.)
    2) Did they fix something with keeping -ga'd mobs all claimed? I don't recall seeing any yellow and I don't think we could have all been targetting different ones.
    Despot /does/ de-spawn if the attempting group wipes. It happened to us about two days after the "fix". He spawned and wiped out our tank within about 6 seconds from the 4-5xPanzerfaust spam..

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    Re: Despot

    I was soloing dolls on SMN last weekend in an attempt to pop Despot while we were gathering for Kirin.

    I only killed about 3-4 before it popped. However, the problem was that it popped while I was in the middle of fighting another. It was like it popped 5 mins after I killed the placeholder (EG, when the placeholder should have reappeared). Also, it came at me from the gate to the Shrine of Ru'Avitau, not from the gauntlet. Since I was alone and couldn't fight both Despot and a Groundskeeper, I ran to zone it. I zoned to the MG entrance, then immediately turned around to come back out. I had my Gaiters on, so he was plenty far behind me when I first zoned. After I came back out, I was dead (didn't even see how I died from the "Now Loading" screen), and Despot was trotting back up the steps for another LS to claim.

    Perhaps it doesn't depop until it gets back to "home?"

    If I can convince some people to farm sky trigs sometime soon, I want to see if we can try it RMT-style by -gaing an entire side.

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    Re: Despot

    Back when I was in Resistance LS on Pandy, we had no problem popping Despot, only took about 15-30mins killing dolls and it popped, while still fighting the doll we were currently fighting.

    Only problem we had was staying alive...

    We didn't have the best equipped people, but it took my NIN down with -31% Phys.Damage taken(Earth Staff, Jelly Ring, Arhat's Gi), in about 3 seconds, from overlapping Panzer spam(think I heard about 6 of them). Also took our Galka BLU down with full def. buffs up, in a couple seconds aswell.

    I'm guessing we got a broke Despot? Anyways we proceeded to kite, since it was the only thing we could of done(which felt kinda pansy-ish).

    Anyone else getting an insane Despot?

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