Parses after the patch

[fantasticdan]

You're kidding right?

Haidate has 15DEX toward crits and 5%haste, bad comparison. Corazza is pure Acc and a meh Tiple Attack.

2.5% triple attack. When a triple attacked weaponskill can add 1k dmg, then I'd think it outdoes 5% haste.

wow...2.5% triple attack. That means on average it will proc in one of every 40 WS's...

But others have allready stated how much of a retard you are, but yer right, "I'm not the smartest cookie in the jar".

Wasn't it proven on this forum that double attack has chance to proc for each hit of the ws(but no more than 2 proc per ws)? Triple attack doesn't work the same way? If it did work the same way, that would mean 1/8 penta would triple, which is not bad.

[Judai]

You're kidding right?

Haidate has 15DEX toward crits and 5%haste, bad comparison. Corazza is pure Acc and a meh Tiple Attack.

2.5% triple attack. When a triple attacked weaponskill can add 1k dmg, then I'd think it outdoes 5% haste.

wow.. are.. you.. really.. that.. dumb?

[Pix!]

You know, after looking at those two parses I really don't think there is that much to change. Honestly if you just get rid of the 1 DEX = 1 Acc thing it should be perfect. In both parses we were dealing with high end equipped 2h DDs and a high end equipped WAR/NIN, and they were all pretty close. If you were to get rid of the inert full-time Sushi effect 2h users were given in this update things should be balanced.

And probably need some readjustments on that level correction formula for HNMs as well. And I still think the damage cap should be removed for 1h weapons.

My thoughts exactly.
I like that ppl can actually make use of their DRGs and DRKs (nesides KClub).
SAM had its place anyway imo.

[HadesBothari]

Double attack and store TP are infinitely better atm than 7 STR and some atk you wont notice.

So, 2% double Attack + 5 STR (+attack you wont notice and 5 Store TP that'll get you to 100 TP 1 hit faster from 0 and do nothing for you after a weaponskill) > 2.5% Triple attack?

[Ryko]

Was I even fucking talking to you? I could have sworn I was responding to maxx about the ares body and ignoring whatever the fuck you're going on about.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Was I even fucking talking to you? I could have sworn I was responding to maxx about the ares body and ignoring whatever the fuck you're going on about.

Rofllllllllll

But I could see that argument swing either way tbh. I can see askar and ares being approximately on the same level. 7 STR and 12(+7 from STR) ATK is pretty damned significant

[Amele]

it'd really come down to how much attack you had already (and how much double attack etc.) I think.

either piece would be better than homam now for sure.

[Grieverbk]

Where can I find a working parser?

Personally, my favorite would have to be DvsParse, which you can find on UltimaLS boards.
http://www.ultimals.com/forums/

I thought it was borked after the update? Is it fixed yet?

Mine's still working fine, so as far as I can tell, still works.
(Using Version 1.7.2)

[Zhais]

Where can I find a working parser?

Personally, my favorite would have to be DvsParse, which you can find on UltimaLS boards.
http://www.ultimals.com/forums/

I thought it was borked after the update? Is it fixed yet?

Mine's still working fine, so as far as I can tell, still works.
(Using Version 1.7.2)

If your version still works, your computer reprogrammed the parser on the fly after the update :D

[HadesBothari]

Was I even fucking talking to you? I could have sworn I was responding to maxx about the ares body and ignoring whatever the fuck you're going on about.

This is why i love BG .. appeal to authority/ad hominem > all. All you need to do is agree with them and you're a f'ing genius... disagree and "wow.. are.. you.. really.. that.. dumb"

[Rocl]

AD HOMINEM INCOMING

Is all of Hades really retarded? It certainly seems that way

AD HOMINEM LEAVING

[Charismatic]

AD HOMINEM INCOMING

Is all of Hades really retarded? It certainly seems that way

AD HOMINEM LEAVING

icwutudidthar
I like where this is going...

[Ryko]

Was I even fucking talking to you? I could have sworn I was responding to maxx about the ares body and ignoring whatever the fuck you're going on about.

This is why i love BG .. appeal to authority/ad hominem > all. All you need to do is agree with them and you're a f'ing genius... disagree and "wow.. are.. you.. really.. that.. dumb"

Let's ignore for a second that I tend to give "authority" and (and dear god im using this term loosely) highly regarded figures a hard time here, that response would be cute and all if you weren't disregarding the fact that you somehow took my contention of the askar body being better than the ares cuirass as my wanting to sit here and argue with you as to whether or not going from 19-21% Double attack and 5 store tp that might put you at the point of lowering hits to 100 within reason (and no it's not inconsequential past the first weapon skill as long as you get anywhere between 100-104 TP off of less hits to 100) is better off than 2.5 triple attack. You're the one who barked up the wrong tree, dont get pissy because my patience with stupid shit is impaired.

[Starr]

AD HOMINEM INCOMING

Is all of Hades really retarded? It certainly seems that way

AD HOMINEM LEAVING

No.

Askar Korazin = win now.

[Sekkite]

Was I even fucking talking to you? I could have sworn I was responding to maxx about the ares body and ignoring whatever the fuck you're going on about.

This is why i love BG .. appeal to authority/ad hominem > all. All you need to do is agree with them and you're a f'ing genius... disagree and "wow.. are.. you.. really.. that.. dumb"

It's more along the lines of 1) post something new or interesting or make someone look stupid and you're a f'ing genius, or 2) disagree and either a) post no proof to support a baseless claim and be called an idiot, or b) post proof to support your now not-baseless claim, which in turn brings you back to 1).

[Laika]

Can we see more parses instead of arguing with idiots from hades?

[Amele]

AD HOMINEM INCOMING

Is all of Hades really retarded? It certainly seems that way

AD HOMINEM LEAVING

screw you too! <3

[Ryko]

Can we see more parses instead of arguing with idiots from hades?

3X SAM PT on Trolls in Zhayolm
2 Bard
69 RDM
Double Marches, Double Minuets

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3...2twojpgxd0.jpg

Top one was the most modestly geared, no haidate and only haste to speak of was ace's helm. No clue on his merits. WS gear was pretty spot on but used hachiman body for WS. Used hasso full time.

Second has haidate and helm, no clue on belt, didnt wear haste on hands or feet. WS gear was spot on. Used seigan full time.

My gearset was the same except I used askar body instead of haubergeon full time. Used hasso full time.

Chain 150 but a grand total of like 170 mobs. I lost 4% during the course of the party forum whoring and watching ferris bueller's day off <_>

[alphacat]

You parsed the difference between 3 sams -.-

What we need is you as ridill war vs. 1 mediocre sam and 1 well geared sam.

[Ryko]

You parsed the difference between 3 sams -.-

What we need is you as ridill war vs. 1 mediocre sam and 1 well geared sam.

I turned it on for shits and giggles because I just wanted merits and easy camps were packed, however yes I do need to play war for the next one which should be tomorrow afternoon.