Current Known Issues (Aug. 30)

[Avé]

If you have to rely on pickup invites to merit, you need friends/a linkshell/to quit the game.

I've done all of those and pickups are still the only way I get an invite.

[LD]

Everyone has to admit that Square has been MUCH better about updates trying to make the playerbase happy since ToAU came out. I think that they realized that while it is their game, we are the ones who pay for it so they do need to listen to us at least sometimes. After they fix whatever it is they are going to fix, I think people will be a lot happier with the results.

Agreed. 2H will still have their pDIF and acc advantage, but their damage should be closer to that of old WARs & MNKs. That's all anyone wanted.

[Talisien]

Everyone has to admit that Square has been MUCH better about updates trying to make the playerbase happy since ToAU came out. I think that they realized that while it is their game, we are the ones who pay for it so they do need to listen to us at least sometimes. After they fix whatever it is they are going to fix, I think people will be a lot happier with the results.

Agreed. 2H will still have their pDIF and acc advantage, but their damage should be closer to that of old WARs & MNKs. That's all anyone wanted.

No that's all you MNKs really seem to care about. =p

Everyone else isn't quite sure what your obsession with being king of the DPS charts in meripo is, but we don't really care as long as you let us join so we can get our 20k/hr too.

[BRP]

Everyone has to admit that Square has been MUCH better about updates trying to make the playerbase happy since ToAU came out. I think that they realized that while it is their game, we are the ones who pay for it so they do need to listen to us at least sometimes. After they fix whatever it is they are going to fix, I think people will be a lot happier with the results.

Agreed. 2H will still have their pDIF and acc advantage, but their damage should be closer to that of old WARs & MNKs. That's all anyone wanted.

uhh... if they got rid of the STR = Atk thing, players only lose 30-40 atk tops. That's a lot less significant than 30-40 Acc... which will them allow them eat meat and pretty much not give them about accuracy.

[LD]

..................Did...........I didn't even fucking say anything mean that time!!

[layoneil]

Someone who was trying to pimp DRG last year was stupid

saying this is acceptable is stupid.

just like someone who is trying to pimp WAR atm is stupid.

you think an Ares/Adaberk Bravura WAR can't compete under the current system?

SE waited so long to fix 2h dmg that it's not fair for people who invested their time and energy trying to be the "best" only to see all their effort go to waste.

there's no statute of limitations on fixing what's broke in an MMO. people who play only to be nothing but the "best" is stupid.

[Bagel]

Harle/Valorwaker ;_;

nevar 4get

(off to farm Cure V scrolls)

[Khamsin]

It was only a semi-whoosh. I was serious about the general message, but not about the extent of damage. Hyperboles are my friend.

I do believe 2handers pulled ahead with this patch, and so dual wielders will indirectly suffer. However, I don't believe ridill WARs and BB MNKs are being outparsed by AH DRGs in KRT, nor do I think people are actually going to pass up ridill WARs and BB MNKs to wait 30 min for a DRG. The comment about 20k/hour being a waste of time when they could kill faster with DRGs is just a play on the old argument of why people refused to PT with anything less than WARs and MNKs.

[Toth]

Sad to see potential PUP changes but I hope they fix the Soulsoother head. It's quite powerful with cure V and Regen III available but it's AI is very...unreactive. I like to see this combo, rather than the Harlewaker, using healing and status spells much faster, just like a good WHM is supposed to do...

[Talisien]

..................Did...........I didn't even fucking say anything mean that time!!

Was I being mean?

Seriously all I know is that pre-patch I heard these mythical stories of War/Nins and Mnks getting 20k/hr with their rdms and brds, and I stared at my drk and my sam and I was like "man, I like these jobs, but I guess I need to level one of those others to get their xp, bah". Now I get to level the jobs I actually enjoy, and still join your party. I could care less who wins the parsers, I just want to be allowed to try, and to be given the tools to not hold you back.

[layoneil]

My point was about meritting and people acting like not getting pickup merit invites is what matters.

Lots of events involve mobs that are similar to merit mobs, that's the part that matters, that's where the patch had a ridiculously huge effect.

that's the base litmus test, most things stem off from that.

if you're not good enough to be invited to a random merit PT, you better bring something really special to the table that someone really needs to those other events (and lots of these melee jobs pre-patch didn't have them).

[Highlulu]

How can you say this with a straight face? Emphasis my own. Drgs were concerned about getting to PLAY, the party was concerned with inviting such a gimpy DD, and you monks are the ones obsessed with your "bestest damage".

Job change button is there for a reason. If you want to play the job with the highest merit DD, play the job with the highest merit DD instead of bitching that your job which has utility that is intended (but fails) to offset their weakness in merit should also have highest merit DD.

exactly, so take your butthurt ass and level sam now

Do you have nin leveled?

yep, i leveled it to tank pt's for someone and started loving it, however just because my nin is no longer better than drk's drg's and sam's i'm not freaking out, my girl and me started playin basically the same time, i played pld and she played drk, 3 years or so later i got nin up... it took me 2 months to get my nin to the point where i dealt more damage than the drk she spent 3 years working on.

all the dual - weild/h2h jobs still keep what made their dd's so apealing (the fact that they are very efficient in terms of damage taken).

i just find aurik's attitude of "well it was good enough for drg's drk's and sam's to get fucked before the update, but now that i'm bottom bitch the game should be more fair!!!!!!" get the fuck over it. everyone insulted/outcasted these jobs before the changes and are now eating the shit they shoveled, i call it poetic justice.

[LD]

No that's all you MNKs really seem to care about. =p

Everyone else isn't quite sure what your obsession with being king of the DPS charts in meripo is, but we don't really care as long as you let us join so we can get our 20k/hr too.

Yes, that's all we care about. That's why I still see people who run sushi and Fumas. It's impossible for a DRG to actually think about damage because they're so weak and helpless. Cut the shit you supercilious little tard. You wanted damage so you could play. Oversimplifying it as just wanting to play is ignoring WHY your weren't being invited and WHY you wanted an enhancement just for the sake of making yourselves look like a victim. You deserve your enhancement, but don't try to bullshit a bullshitter.

Are you people surprised how we talk over your heads when shit like this is thrown at us? Just because I'm a fucking monk...and I've actually tried to be civil and fair to you people. All I get is wild accusations and the worst friggin’ case of schadenfreude I have ever experienced....and this was literally the most neutral and innocuous thing I have said IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

BRP, the lower pDIF cap should make most of that extra att have less of an impact. The DEX:Acc conversion will still allow them to hit their cap, but there will be much less of a glaring auto-attack and WS difference.

[Rocl]

Harle/Valorwaker ;_;

nevar 4get

(off to farm Cure V scrolls)

T_T

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME? I'VE MADE MY MISTAKES, LIFE GOES ONN

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Harle/Valorwaker ;_;

nevar 4get

(off to farm Cure V scrolls)

T_T

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME? I'VE MADE MY MISTAKES, LIFE GOES ONN

GOD I HATE EMO PUPS ALMOST AS MUCH AS I HATE TACO SHELL DEEP FRYERS

[aurik]

How can you say this with a straight face? Emphasis my own. Drgs were concerned about getting to PLAY, the party was concerned with inviting such a gimpy DD, and you monks are the ones obsessed with your "bestest damage".

Job change button is there for a reason. If you want to play the job with the highest merit DD, play the job with the highest merit DD instead of bitching that your job which has utility that is intended (but fails) to offset their weakness in merit should also have highest merit DD.

exactly, so take your butthurt ass and level sam now

Congratulations on not actually reading what I've posted.

[Ryko]

yep, i leveled it to tank pt's for someone and started loving it, however just because my nin is no longer better than drk's drg's and sam's i'm not freaking ou

It wasn't a DD question, I was just wondering if you took your own advice and leveled it while it was a better tank than your paladin was.

[Khamsin]

i call it poetic justice.

The only kind of poetic justice is the kind served through haiku.

ridill warriors
and black belt monks once revered
eating wyvern shit

[Talisien]

No that's all you MNKs really seem to care about. =p

Everyone else isn't quite sure what your obsession with being king of the DPS charts in meripo is, but we don't really care as long as you let us join so we can get our 20k/hr too.

Yes, that's all we care about. That's why I still see people who run sushi and Fumas. It's impossible for a DRG to actually think about damage because they're so weak and helpless. Cut the shit you supercilious little tard. You wanted damage so you could play. Oversimplifying it as just wanting to play is ignoring WHY your weren't being invited and WHY you wanted an enhancement just for the sake of making yourselves look like a victim. You deserve your enhancement, but don't try to bullshit a bullshitter.

Are you people surprised how we talk over your heads when shit like this is thrown at us? Just because I'm a fucking monk...and I've actually tried to be civil and fair to you people. All I get is wild accusations and the worst friggin’ case of schadenfreude I have ever experienced....and this was literally the most neutral and innocuous thing I have said IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

BRP, the lower pDIF cap should make most of that extra att have less of an impact. The DEX:Acc conversion will still allow them to hit their cap, but there will be much less of a glaring auto-attack and WS difference.

Wow, you are really angry I guess.

The King is dead. Long live the King.

As for the supercilious schadenfreude ... is that really how you read the actual dragoons / dark knights that are talking to you monks / war/nins about these changes? As contemptuous of you and basking in your misfortune (I looked these words up, yay)? Like I said, I've played MMOs for more than a decade, I've seen more than my share of nerfs, some deserved, some not, some wildly unfair, some not, and this is not a nerf. Monks didn't lose anything during meripo, and yet you're all acting as though you were wildly nerfed because people were brought up to your level.

Like I said, we're happy we can play in your merit parties. We were sick of sitting lfg. That's why this change was made, and it's why this change was necessary, because you were so dumbly good that no one else could keep up, and it meant directly more xp/hr. Now that that disparity is gone you've lost nothing, and we've gained everything. But you're still miserable. *shrug*

As I said. The King is dead. Long live the King.

[FinalJustice]

- Automaton's status is lower than it is supposed to be.

Could this be why my Sharpshot Frame seems to have Horrid Racc on iT mobs now? Even stacking manuvers didn't seem to help it yesterday. I was only 5 lvls behind the previous cap before update, but It didnt have such a hard tim hitting imps before.