Current Known Issues (Aug. 30)

[lotmorning]

[SAM75/THF15 were Sneak Attacking Fafnir for the past few days?

ok i got lost there, Sneak Attack on Fafnir???

as to subtle blow being worthless i've seen it used in xp pts along with Penance against the dragons to reduce chance of Radiant Breath, have seen it used on Einhejir Marrids to help lower there benediction like tp move.

[HadesBothari]

Oh and as for the solo of MNK.. level BST and sub it.. you can do just as well as us. There.. now you're unique too.

[LD]

I didn't say that. What I was doing was use aurik's model of actually improving how your job works to allow you to utilize such a thing in a normal situation.
Aurik was right, if you were able to use what made you unique, you'd be used.

and that's why Aurik's model fails, because we've had two years of practical experience telling us that it is not and will not be utilized that way.

Really? So you wouldn't want those improvements then.

at the expense of completely repealing this 2 handed patch, no f'n way.

Wait, how would we be repeating this patch if it isn't worth having?

[Akanei]

SAM75/THF15 were Sneak Attacking Fafnir for the past few days?

Considering SAM75/WAR37 were doing similar-to-SA damage from ANYWHERE around the mob, I would say that's a little bit broken.

Did you really need to even post that, at all?

P.S. I sneak attack wyrms and take SATAs from SAMs and DRKs, go fuck yourself.

[layoneil]

at the expense of completely repealing this 2 handed patch, no f'n way.

Wait, how would we be repeating this patch if it isn't worth having?

repeaL, not repeaT.

[evilpaul]

SAM75/THF15 were Sneak Attacking Fafnir for the past few days?

Considering SAM75/WAR37 were doing similar-to-SA damage from ANYWHERE around the mob, I would say that's a little bit broken.

Did you really need to even post that, at all?

P.S. I sneak attack wyrms and take SATAs from SAMs and DRKs, go fuck yourself.

Way to miss the point. Can I help scrape the sand from your vag?

[Akanei]

Considering I wasn't the only one to respond in kind, the point is probably that you're a moron.

Try again.

[LD]

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I skim, sue me.

Still, this is effectively doubling your damage output and TP gain and the patch isn't being completely taken away. Jump is already more powerful than a normal strike and being able to heal the rest of your PT could be seen as lowring the required MP for the main healer. Which one of us isn't seeing this clearly (I know what you're going to say, rhetorical question)?

[Ryko]

Now here comes the part where he says "whatever you probably suck at your job".

[Shuemue]

Interests me that they only mention an issue with 2h weapon dmg and not 1h or h2h.

I don't give a flying fuck how much dmg a DRG does, as long as I still feel superior.

[Talisien]

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I skim, sue me.

Still, this is effectively doubling your damage output and the patch isn't being completely taken away.

Either the issue is the damage, or it's not. Get your story straight. No one cares that a Monk hits stuff with his fists, and the Dragoon hits stuff with the Polearm, and the Dark Knight with a Scythe, etc etc etc. The jobs are about hitting things for damage. It's why you're invited to the party, it's why the patch was needed, it's why Drgs and Drks get to merit now instead of sitting in the Mog House.

ps the acc thing is still retarded.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Interests me that they only mention an issue with 2h weapon dmg and not 1h or h2h.

I don't give a flying fuck how much dmg a DRG does, as long as I still feel superior.

lmao that's basically the sum of the patch reaction

[Talisien]

Interests me that they only mention an issue with 2h weapon dmg and not 1h or h2h.

I don't give a flying fuck how much dmg a DRG does, as long as I still feel superior.

Well at least somebody is honest around here

[moguri]

Sneak attack on Fafnir and wyrms is for gangsters. if your tanks can't keep hate then you deserve to be flailed.

[Shuemue]

Interests me that they only mention an issue with 2h weapon dmg and not 1h or h2h.

I don't give a flying fuck how much dmg a DRG does, as long as I still feel superior.

lmao that's basically the sum of the patch reaction

At least I'm honest.

[Akanei]

Interests me that they only mention an issue with 2h weapon dmg and not 1h or h2h.

I don't give a flying fuck how much dmg a DRG does, as long as I still feel superior.

Way to be elitist/racist/sexist, as always, Shoes.

[fantasticdan]

Right, but MNK's only source of healing is potions and Chakra, DRG can pretty much solo anything as long as it doesn't have a big damage TP move.

That's not true, they can't really solo anything with any type of moderate aoe damage either. Drg solo is pretty limited compared to blu, bst, blm, etc, and the exp rate was definitely crap compared to blu or blm solo before the update, idk about bst.

DRG can solo a lot more and has almost no resting time.

That's only at 72+ thou, it's not like drg can solo from 1-75 very efficiently like the other solo-able jobs.

Just to wrap the DRG thing up as I see it.

Jump & High Jump recast cut in half.
Healing Breath auto-Activation on Melee sub Wyvern at 25% HP.

There, you made you more powerful and gave you a unique support ability.
Mazel Tov.

And DRG's would still gain zero invites compared to a MNK. Oh thanks for the super-awesome improvements.

Just stop, you are going to embarrass yourself like Aurik did.

Really? So you wouldn't want those improvements then.

If I was a drg, no, I wouldn't want those adjustments over than 2h fix and polearm ws fix. Turning drg into a FUNCTIONAL hybrid healer/dd/utility/support/whatthefuckever would take a lot of revamping on SE's part, not just giving a shitty version of the healing wyvern full time. If you want hybrid dd/healer/utility go play blu, or even pup now with the white mage frame.

[LD]

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I skim, sue me.

Still, this is effectively doubling your damage output and the patch isn't being completely taken away.

Either the issue is the damage, or it's not. Get your story straight. No one cares that a Monk hits stuff with his fists, and the Dragoon hits stuff with the Polearm, and the Dark Knight with a Scythe, etc etc etc. The jobs are about hitting things for damage. It's why you're invited to the party, it's why the patch was needed, it's why Drgs and Drks get to merit now instead of sitting in the Mog House.

ps the acc thing is still retarded.

No, if it were just about damage, I could sub /WAR. It's about efficiency, and a DRG who can heal others for no MP while doing decent damage and accumulating less net hate is just that, efficient.

[Ryko]

Sneak attack on Fafnir and wyrms is for gangsters. if your tanks can't keep hate then you deserve to be flailed.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5...eswhereqd1.jpg

Pretty weak one too was therin's fault for invincible not holding hate.

[evilpaul]

Considering I wasn't the only one to respond in kind, the point is probably that you're a moron.

Try again.

You're functionally retarded, so I chose not to reply to you. But, for everyone else's benefit:

To me in all honesty it just sounds like they're fixing pDIF, and nothing else.

Ding ding ding. They'll probably lower the pDIF cap so /thf isn't completely useless on HNMs and crits are a bit more. . worthwhile.

SAM75/THF15 were Sneak Attacking Fafnir for the past few days?

"There are more HNMs than fafnir", nevermind the fact that you didnt need SA to hit 3.0 anyway.

Ryko asserts that /THF is completely useless on HNMs (including ones besides Fafnir).
I mentioned that people might be using /THF for more than what /THF15 gives you (aka Sneak Attack).
A pile on of mental defectives ensues with all said retards not knowing that Trick Attack still works without Assassin.

I color coded this post so maybe Ryko's keepers can explain it to her.