Drg 2hr, 50% haste?

[Gere]

Wyvern disappears and can't be re-summoned until ss wears. SS will not work if wyvern is not there.

[Keno]

Wyvern disappears and can't be re-summoned until ss wears. SS will not work if wyvern is not there.

Oh, ok, so you need your wyvern out to use it but then it disappears once you use SS. Does it last 1 minute like wiki says or 30 secs?

[Dakk]

It lasts 1 min.
I'd try it but I dont have Love Halberd, I'll do an attemp with Mezraq tho.

[Sev]

It lasts 1 min, not to mention angon before 2hrs dropping def, as well as a well timed jump can ensure more damage, spekkio as well as myself and other dragoons in the ls will attempt this tonight.

[Keno]

It lasts 1 min.
I'd try it but I dont have Love Halberd, I'll do an attemp with Mezraq tho.

OK if it lasts 1 minute then something is definitely wrong. That means you can get 522 hits off in that one minute. And assuming even a weak 100 dmg per hit thats 52.2k damage, 3x more than the best kraken drk can do in the same time. Please someone test this and see if it works or not. The mezraq test will be nice but it won't come close to the love halberd, which is the real test we need to see.

EDIT: In case anyone doesn't see the vast implications of this, it means if it works out you can go and have PLD/DRG/DRG/DRG beat almost any mob in the game save for JoL, AV, and other ridiculously high HP mobs.

[Sev]

It lasts 1 min.
I'd try it but I dont have Love Halberd, I'll do an attemp with Mezraq tho.

OK if it lasts 1 minute then something is definitely wrong. That means you can get 522 hits off in that one minute. And assuming even a weak 100 dmg per hit thats 52.2k damage, 3x more than the best kraken drk can do in the same time. Please someone test this and see if it works or not. The mezraq test will be nice but it won't come close to the love halberd, which is the real test we need to see.

EDIT: In case anyone doesn't see the vast implications of this, it means if it works out you can go and have PLD/DRG/DRG/DRG beat almost any mob in the game save for JoL, AV, and other ridiculously high HP mobs.

Drg 1-> Would be love halbred
Drg 2-> Mezraq
Drg 3-> trying to get another love halbred.

Originally thought about madrids but if that math is right we need something tougher lol.

Any suggestions on mob?

[Kaylia]

its at least 25% because i just did it outside whitegate and utsu ichi went from 30 to 22. going to try it with sp double march in a couple hours and see if it goes towards the magic haste cap.

a drg with homam needs to check if it counts towards equip haste

Wouldnt that indicate it count toward magic cap, and not "weapon delay"? Hasso/desperate blow doesnt reduce utsu timer as far as I know

[Zosi]

its at least 25% because i just did it outside whitegate and utsu ichi went from 30 to 22. going to try it with sp double march in a couple hours and see if it goes towards the magic haste cap.

a drg with homam needs to check if it counts towards equip haste

Wouldnt that indicate it count toward magic cap, and not "weapon delay"? Hasso/desperate blow doesnt reduce utsu timer as far as I know

Which is why I'm eagerly awaiting this video.

[Sev]

its at least 25% because i just did it outside whitegate and utsu ichi went from 30 to 22. going to try it with sp double march in a couple hours and see if it goes towards the magic haste cap.

a drg with homam needs to check if it counts towards equip haste

Wouldnt that indicate it count toward magic cap, and not "weapon delay"? Hasso/desperate blow doesnt reduce utsu timer as far as I know

Hasso doubles it

[Keno]

Just because it lowered utsu recast doesn't mean it goes towards magic cap. Wear gear haste and your utsu recast will go down too, so that proves nothing. We need tests.

[Spekkio]

catastrophe's effect lowers spell recast too iirc, but that goes towards gear cap. somehow i doubt it's 25% towards gear cap though, because that would make every piece of haste gear useless in 2 hr. it could, however, count towards magic cap, but there's no evidence for any of the above. how does desperate blows affect magic? i presume none at all, which may mean something. just gotta try it i think.

[recuperi]

I'm probably not very reliable information on this, because i never really deal with numbers in this game, but i do go drg everytime my shell does bahamut v2 (only drg in shell wee ._.). i'm always stuck in the off party that just gets the generic haste+ march x2 + minuet x2. As far as I can tell, spirit surge doesn't allow you to go over the normal melee haste cap, at least from just eyeballing it. Who knows though, i could be wrong


EDIT: those are SV songs, forgot to mention that; 17% gear haste if that matters any

[Keno]

catastrophe's effect lowers spell recast too iirc, but that goes towards gear cap. somehow i doubt it's 25% towards gear cap though, because that would make every piece of haste gear useless in 2 hr. it could, however, count towards magic cap, but there's no evidence for any of the above. how does desperate blows affect magic? i presume none at all, which may mean something. just gotta try it i think.

I believe desperate blows doesn't affect magic because it's just reducing the weapon delay, not adding haste to your setup.

[underscore]

ok so it looks like it counts towards magic haste. sv marches + haste brough ichi to 16 sec. spirit surge would have brought it to 15 if it counted towards equip haste, but it stayed the same.

or did i miss something?
if desperate blows(works outside equip+magic haste caps) doesnt change your recast timers, then theres no reason spirit surge would be in the same category because spirit surge does change your recast.

[Priran]

ok so it looks like it counts towards magic haste. sv marches + haste brough ichi to 16 sec. spirit surge would have brought it to 15 if it counted towards equip haste, but it stayed the same.

or did i miss something?
if desperate blows(works outside equip+magic haste caps) doesnt change your recast timers, then theres no reason spirit surge would be in the same category because spirit surge does change your recast.

-Recast from Haste caps at 50%.

[underscore]

ok so it looks like it counts towards magic haste. sv marches + haste brough ichi to 16 sec. spirit surge would have brought it to 15 if it counted towards equip haste, but it stayed the same.

or did i miss something?
if desperate blows(works outside equip+magic haste caps) doesnt change your recast timers, then theres no reason spirit surge would be in the same category because spirit surge does change your recast.

-Recast from Haste caps at 50%.

i know this, 30/2 = 15, utsu recast was at 16, if it was equip haste it would have pushed it to 15. correct?

[Priran]

ok so it looks like it counts towards magic haste. sv marches + haste brough ichi to 16 sec. spirit surge would have brought it to 15 if it counted towards equip haste, but it stayed the same.

or did i miss something?
if desperate blows(works outside equip+magic haste caps) doesnt change your recast timers, then theres no reason spirit surge would be in the same category because spirit surge does change your recast.

-Recast from Haste caps at 50%.

i know this, 30/2 = 15, utsu recast was at 16, if it was physical haste it would have pushed it to 15. correct?

I was thinking lag. If you had SV Marches, why wouldn't you have tried hitting something anyway? Would have told us more, provided you had a decent gear haste setup.

[underscore]

i was a naked lvl37 drg/nin outside whitegate, with only sv march and haste spell. i wasnt about to hit anything. i was spamming a macro containing "/recast "Utsusemi: Ichi" As well as looking at the recast plugin. it was 16 seconds before and after spirit surge, trust me.

[Therin]

Someone hurry up and take a video of this so I can decide whether or not to level DRG. Already 4/5 Homam and Ace's Helm. =(

[Kaylia]

Someone hurry up and take a video of this so I can decide whether or not to level DRG. Already 4/5 Homam and Ace's Helm. =(

Walarah turban would totally destroy Ace's Helm in this situation, no?