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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    Quote Originally Posted by VZX
    niceeeeee

    By just eyeballing, how much delay reduction for aiming delay?
    Very roughly, it feels like firing with a crossbow (pre-patch) with a bow, now (well, maybe a little bit slower, but it's definitely noticeable)

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX
    niceeeeee

    By just eyeballing, how much delay reduction for aiming delay?
    Very roughly, it feels like firing with a crossbow (pre-patch) with a bow, now (well, maybe a little bit slower, but it's definitely noticeable)
    Which bow and which crossbow?
    If you refer to 524 delay HQ bow vs 280 delay HQ crossbow, that's ALOT

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    20% seems likely, my normal shots were around 162 on a random bird and w/ velocity they were 202ish, so 20% atk seems right, 20% haste seems around right too, going w/ a rng burn on birds atm to see how marked the difference is, but 20%atk 20%haste boost really seems to be a nice change w/o trading shadows, though i'd personally like to see if zerk + VS stack for 45% atk boost, or to see if it is 20% or not. 20% haste on ebow is 98dly i think, so that's just shy of 1s faster per shot.

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    I am not sure I can sub war now lol, death 10 fold.

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    Holy balls this JA owns faces.

    Popping off ~3000 damage Barrages on colibri outside of town without much effort, and the delay has been cut sizable amount

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    going w/ a rng burn on birds atm
    Oh god... it begins again.

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    Ok, trying this out with a BRD now...i'm almost 110% certain that Velocity Shot is a straight +dmg% like Overwhelm is. I just scored a few 600+ damage crits using E.Bow + Demon Arrows, and i've never seen damage close to that high out of a ranged weapon before.

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    Looks like rangers gonna get nerfed next update probably, I hurt inside

    hopefully they dont ;/

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    Full Circle huh.

    SC's look more viable now for Samurai, Mages getting new options to make MB's even more ePeeneriffic, and Rangers burning mobs down.

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    I guess its time to pull bard back out and revive my 2004 8-man Ranger Firing squad. Ah well, I enjoyed my 3 months of power.

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    This sounds incredible... Time to dust off the Ranger gear from 05!!!

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    The increased speed of R att is very nice, however, with no auto ranged attack we now have to retrain our fingers on how soon to hit the shot macro. I was hitting it too fast quite often and getting the "You must wait longer..." message, thus wasting whatever increased speed I had for that shot.

    As for -enmity, I currently use Novia (-7), Scout's braccae+1 (-3), Scout's socks (-3), and 4 merits for -17 enmity. I also carry trooper's ring for another -4 if needed. The main thing I've noticed with stacking -enmity is that I can still pull hate, but I lose hate so much faster.

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    So how is the damage compared to pre-nerf?

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    How are you guys getting +20%. When I use velocity shot, attack is decreased by exactly 15%. If it's like berserk/defender, it should be +15% attack.

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    Quote Originally Posted by Semitry
    How are you guys getting +20%. When I use velocity shot, attack is decreased by exactly 15%. If it's like berserk/defender, it should be +15% attack.
    Just eyeballing it tbh

    My staff skill is uncapped on RNG, so I never paid attention to the attack I had with it while toying with VS outside of town.

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    Absolutely 0 difference in damage with Velocity Shot vs no Velocity Shot in Sarutabaruta, so its not a straight +DMG%. Ranged Attack has more linear returns than plain attack, could account for how direct the difference is on higher level things.

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    Quote Originally Posted by Naramaska
    Ok, trying this out with a BRD now...i'm almost 110% certain that Velocity Shot is a straight +dmg% like Overwhelm is. I just scored a few 600+ damage crits using E.Bow + Demon Arrows, and i've never seen damage close to that high out of a ranged weapon before.

    <3<3<3
    no way, what the hell?

    edit : oh wait, it's possible lol

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    Kind of interested on the numbers relic holders are pumping out.

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    I got 8 merits in archery and then lvled sam because its cheaper, and went sam to events instead of rng. Now that rng gets beefceked up and sam gets run over, I can come rng now

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    Re: Let's talk about Ranger

    Quote Originally Posted by Ddong
    Kind of interested on the numbers relic holders are pumping out.
    Yea does that mean relic sams still pumping out old numbers? with their relic ws

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