Regarding Great axes for Raging Rush.

[Fng]

Why do you need Refresh when you can get it from Sanction?

[Kyreth]

If it's a Rune weapon, he's going to want more than 1 MP/tic. It's draining for more. (My Rune Blade draws 4/tic.)

[Chupunpupun]

Swift belt = 4%
B.Haidate = 5%
W Turban = 5%
Unicorn Leggings = 3%
Dusk Gloves = 3%
Blitz Ring = 1%

21%

Anymore than that is actually pretty tough. Nothin' else short of HQs and Speedbelt

RUNE CHOPPA

I use rune choppa in EXP but 99% of the RDM are oblivious of why you're asking for refresh so they will do it once and never do it again or just ignore you completely. It only works with LS PTs.

From a RDM's perspective, a WAR asking for Refresh to power a Rune Chopper is really selfish. Refresh is a net return of 120 MP per 2.5 minutes, 480 MP every 10 minutes. Casting Haste on 4 melees will cost 480 MP every 10 minutes, now one of the Warriors wants you to spend and additional 160 MP every three minutes to fuel his e-peen? That is MP that could have been spent on 3 Cure IIIs and a Regen (with change for a Dia) to keep the party going.

Which is why it only works in LS parties where you have AF2 hat+A.body+relic horn (true story).

[Max™]

Man, if I could get a stackable 2 Mp/Tic Juice, I would never use anything but a Rune Chopper, swap out the haste slots freed up, and just rock a bunch of face.

Or, Sanction+Are's Body+something else with 1 mp/tic Refresh.

I can't sit and seriously ask to be Refreshed, Hasted, AND Cured. Two out of Three, yeah.

I'm loathe to WS in Spike Necklace, since it's a drop of 7 Acc over the PCC, but I'll have to try it out, since it would put me over 100 Dex right now.

The Despot update is making me sad, cause it's made him a bit rarer, and a bit more of a hassle to get through the Haidate line since I got back after it.

[Beckwin]

Or, Sanction+Are's Body+something else with 1 mp/tic Refresh.

war/smn

war/pld

make your choice.

[Zeratu]

Question about Rune Weapons, since I know for a fact that BSTs with Rune Axe + Gaudy Harness get the Regen effect bouncing between 0-1MP every tick.(Used to have a BST friend who subbed NIN, Dual wielded Rune Axes with Gaudy Harness on and got 10HP/tick back, with essentially 0MP) Would this translate over to Rune Chopper with 1MP/tick from Sanction... I'm gonna need to test this properly when I get home from work, I have Ares's Cuirass now, so should be easy to tell with Utsu: Ni recast timer for whether it works or not, while being between 0-1MP.

Then again, could've been every other tick(0MP[No latent] > tick > 1MP(Latent) > 0MP[No latent] Repeat), was so long ago, might be only able to get 9% Haste and Acc+5 from Chopper, half the time, boncing between 0-1MP... Oh well, will definately test this tonight.

[Max™]

Figure out the Weapon Delay in Drain Tics.

Work out if having a swing go off in between drain tics that hit 0 reduces the overall haste.

Looking at it simply, it looks like you get roughly 4.5% Haste from it, good, but not as good as it could be, and making it less of an overwhelmingly obvious choice.

[Sanjiyan]

I hate to link KI due to shitty speed, but here's what I found.

http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=141464

Of course I didn't take into account about different haste levels before using rune chopper which might affect how often the swing falls on a 1MP (no latent active) instead of 0MP.
Overall though, it's still pretty decent.

[Swatt]

Question about Rune Weapons, since I know for a fact that BSTs with Rune Axe + Gaudy Harness get the Regen effect bouncing between 0-1MP every tick.(Used to have a BST friend who subbed NIN, Dual wielded Rune Axes with Gaudy Harness on and got 10HP/tick back, with essentially 0MP)

which is incidentally annoying as fuck watching his mp bar go from 0 to 1 to 0 to 1 to 0 to 1 to 0 to 1 to 0 to 1 to 0 to 1 to 0 to 1 to 0 to 1 to 0 to 1 to 0 to 1

[Max™]

Did my first Meripo with a good amount of Dex, still missing my Haidate/Nbits/Commander's cape (til AH moves on that anyway), but at 68+31, with the +12% Crits, I had no problem landing full TP returns, and had very VERY few no critters at Mamool South.

Was generally winning the Dmg per WS game, and spamming like hell (go go 6 hit!) so the fully merited, pretty nicely geared, hasted batshit U/U Ninja only really lost hate to me regularly.

Loved the WS damage, 700-1k was just as easy as pie, lots of three crits at 900-1100 Damage, high of 1445 with loltaru str and a crappy bard (full crits+doubles ftw) and am sold on Dex builds for Raging Rush now.

Got a kick out of me and the War/Nin WSing for the exact same amount back to back once, 975, 975.