Strategies to Defeat AV (All Theories/Ideas Here)

**riddaraan** · 2008-01-18 00:46

Because of the nature of diminishing returns on MDB, I don't think it is. Secondly, all the people who aren't Blue Mages would be broken down pretty fast. Lastly, AV came out before ToAU, so, LOGICALLY, the answer to beating it must be before that.

**Spekkio** · 2008-01-18 10:15

ignoring the difficulty of having a diffusion up every minute to recast it (fully merited that's 15 min recast so you'd need a cycle of 15 blus to keep that up) saline coat degrades in potency over time towards 10 MDB. 40MDB/60seconds*3 seconds/tick= you lose 2 mdb every tick until it finally wears off. this means that through a good chunk of the 60 seconds, you're going to get a very meager MDB effect, not likely enough to quench the huge incoming damage w/o some kind of resist.

one thing to remember, the "trick" to beating AV can't involve any ToAU or WotG job abilities/spells. this is not to decry their effectiveness (well other than lolpup.) but since AV predated these jobs, they can not be required to defeat AV unless SE wanted to make AV unbeatable until these jobs came out. i'm not trying to discourage players from using new jobs on AV, don't get me wrong, but the suggestion that you can't beat AV w/o one of them just seems unlikely to me.

**BerenTebogo** · 2008-01-18 12:10

Wait wait wait, slow this train down mr. conductor.

You people mean to tell me it isn't the ebon panels?

Geez, my view of the world, it's been shattered.

sad part is, as a whole, my post is as useful as any of the serious ideas posted recently.

**lotmorning** · 2008-01-25 11:22

Ok i don't mean to beat on a dead horse here. But durring a GM call today one of our members asked about AV just to see if the GM would say anything about him. Surprisingly he did talk a little bit about AV, and I'm wondering if he might have given a small hint to him. So if this has been tried before I'm sorry. What the GM said was along the lines of "No gear or weapons". This kind of seemed out of place till I started to think about how SE does things that typically have seen in other parts of the game, mainly the Palace in Aht Urhgan. To enter the palace you cant have any weapons or ranged items equipped, so what if when you kill JoL u have to strip off all gear and weapons before AV spawns or is pulled to "show" you are of no threat to him? Could this possibly be some way to slow his 2hours and abilities? Again don't mean to start a war on here just something that sounded out of place from the GM talking about AV

**Rufio** · 2008-01-25 12:52

Originally Posted by lotmorning

Ok i don't mean to beat on a dead horse here. But durring a GM call today one of our members asked about AV just to see if the GM would say anything about him. Surprisingly he did talk a little bit about AV, and I'm wondering if he might have given a small hint to him. So if this has been tried before I'm sorry. What the GM said was along the lines of "No gear or weapons". This kind of seemed out of place till I started to think about how SE does things that typically have seen in other parts of the game, mainly the Palace in Aht Urhgan. To enter the palace you cant have any weapons or ranged items equipped, so what if when you kill JoL u have to strip off all gear and weapons before AV spawns or is pulled to "show" you are of no threat to him? Could this possibly be some way to slow his 2hours and abilities? Again don't mean to start a war on here just something that sounded out of place from the GM talking about AV

Or, perhaps he functions like Maat (or as Maat had been theorized), spawning based on the stats of the alliance when he pops. In which case, stripping all buffs may be good, too. <_<b

**Raylinn** · 2008-01-25 13:53

Or maybe he meant no jailer gear/weapons are necessary. Exactly what people have been saying all along.
But why would anyone take what a

says at face value, if the devs can't even give us a straight answer?

**Eticket** · 2008-01-25 14:02

Originally Posted by lotmorning

Ok i don't mean to beat on a dead horse here. But durring a GM call today one of our members asked about AV just to see if the GM would say anything about him. Surprisingly he did talk a little bit about AV, and I'm wondering if he might have given a small hint to him. So if this has been tried before I'm sorry. What the GM said was along the lines of "No gear or weapons". This kind of seemed out of place till I started to think about how SE does things that typically have seen in other parts of the game, mainly the Palace in Aht Urhgan. To enter the palace you cant have any weapons or ranged items equipped, so what if when you kill JoL u have to strip off all gear and weapons before AV spawns or is pulled to "show" you are of no threat to him? Could this possibly be some way to slow his 2hours and abilities? Again don't mean to start a war on here just something that sounded out of place from the GM talking about AV

GM1: Dude, you'll never believe what happened yesterday.

GM2: What?

GM1: Well I was out in Aery, cleaning up a CFH Faffy flailtactular, when one of the norms starts sending me tells about AV.

GM2: Man, I hate that shit, like we know anything about game mechanics.

GM1: Word, hell the dev team has been fighting him over a month now and has wiped about 80 times, they don't even know what to do with him.

GM2: So what'd you tell them?

GM1: I made some vague allusion to them not equipping anything when he's popped.

GM2: And they bought it?

GM1: Hook line and sinker, it looks like they're massing up to try him now.

GM2: This will be awesome, I'll go get the popcorn.

**Euphoria** · 2008-01-25 14:08