Dear Ganiman, (op updated)

[divisortheory]

(besides the fact that Taj almost definitely fabricated the paypal records)

Proof please?

What kind of proof could anyone possibly provide? lol, any "proof" provided would be just as prone to alteration as the original "proof".

Once again, it was my PayPal account because I had transactions for those exact amounts on those days.

protip: Hacking someone's PayPal account is the same level of Federal Crime as if someone walked into your mailbox, opened your mail, and then published newspaper advertisements with photo scans of your mail.

Links incoming soon

[Fallso]

ITT: FUCK THIS GUY FOUND OUT I BUY GIL IM CALLING THE COPS ON U

[alphacat]

He is using shock value to prove a few points, and raise a few questions.

Have we recieved a straight forward answer to what happened to all this donated money? No.

Does this justify password stealing? Probably not. Has it gotten people interested in this topic? Oh hell yeah...

Prove what point, raise which questions?

What does Div being a gilbuyer have to do with 1. ffxiclopedia 2. div's argument. Taj's post has nothing to do with Div's argument on the subject nor was it relevant to the OP at all. He basically personally derailed the entire topic.

[Sho]

Funny thread is FUNNY.

Taj should be given a medal. Rydiu as well.

[spooky]

He is using shock value to prove a few points, and raise a few questions.

Have we recieved a straight forward answer to what happened to all this donated money? No.

Does this justify password stealing? Probably not. Has it gotten people interested in this topic? Oh hell yeah...

Prove what point, raise which questions?

What does Div being a gilbuyer have to do with 1. ffxiclopedia 2. div's argument. Taj's post has nothing to do with Div's argument on the subject nor was it relevant to the OP at all. He basically personally derailed the entire topic.

Yeah but, it was epic and win. So who cares what you say?

[alphacat]

He is using shock value to prove a few points, and raise a few questions.

Have we recieved a straight forward answer to what happened to all this donated money? No.

Does this justify password stealing? Probably not. Has it gotten people interested in this topic? Oh hell yeah...

Prove what point, raise which questions?

What does Div being a gilbuyer have to do with 1. ffxiclopedia 2. div's argument. Taj's post has nothing to do with Div's argument on the subject nor was it relevant to the OP at all. He basically personally derailed the entire topic.

Yeah but, it was epic and win. So who cares what you say?

Well, at least I got some idiot to reply, no?

[spooky]

He is using shock value to prove a few points, and raise a few questions.

Have we recieved a straight forward answer to what happened to all this donated money? No.

Does this justify password stealing? Probably not. Has it gotten people interested in this topic? Oh hell yeah...

Prove what point, raise which questions?

What does Div being a gilbuyer have to do with 1. ffxiclopedia 2. div's argument. Taj's post has nothing to do with Div's argument on the subject nor was it relevant to the OP at all. He basically personally derailed the entire topic.

Yeah but, it was epic and win. So who cares what you say?

Well, at least I got some idiot to reply, no?

No.

[Seraph]

Prove what point, raise which questions?
What does Div being a gilbuyer have to do with 1. ffxiclopedia 2. div's argument. Taj's post has nothing to do with Div's argument on the subject nor was it relevant to the OP at all. He basically personally derailed the entire topic.

It's always been about that. I tend to think sometimes a derail isn't always a derail...

Money, Lebowski?

[Fallso]

Ok, let's look at it from another perspective.

An admin(?) over at the wiki, one of the FFXI premier sites, is a gilbuyer.

I'm sure SE will be glad to hear that

[Sasarai]

Like I said, embezzling donated money, buying gil, and Ringthree's posts are all crimes also. Big deal.

In the end this thread establishes:

1. We haven't got a straight answer about the FFXIclopedia funds.

2. Those who questioned it are made to feel bad because its a "great resource".

3. Divisor is a gil buyer with a Relic.

[Sho]

Like I said, embezzling donated money, buying gil, and Ringthree's posts are all crimes also. Big deal.

In the end this thread establishes:

1. We haven't got a straight answer about the FFXIclopedia funds.

2. Those who questioned it are made to feel bad because its a "great resource".

3. Divisor is a gil buyer with a Relic.

4. #1 and #3 might coincide with each other.

5. Hide your account infoz from Taj, lawl. He can create trump cardz to use on j00.

There we go.

[ringthree]

Like I said, embezzling donated money, buying gil, and Ringthree's posts are all crimes also. Big deal.

In the end this thread establishes:

1. We haven't got a straight answer about the FFXIclopedia funds.

2. Those who questioned it are made to feel bad because its a "great resource".

3. Divisor is a gil buyer with a Relic.

1. It's not "embezzlement." I don't even think you know the definition of the word. They have already said everything they are going to say, you are just beating a dead horse. If you want to pursue it legally you are free to, if you donated money to the Wiki.

2. Some people, shockingly, don't agree with you, and don't believe Wiki stole the money for beer and hookers and had to make a real financial decision, however unpleasant to those that donated.

3. Divisor has already provided at least as decent evidence of his innocence, and you sound like a freaking lemming at this point.

Like me or DV or Taj or whoever you want, but stop making things up. Taj hacked someone's personal information because he disagreed with them over an internet discussion. That is bad. Why is it so difficult to believe that someone that is willing to hack an account over an internet discussion wouldn't also be willing to fabricate evidence of supposed gil-buying to further there sick obsession?

[divisortheory]

protip: Hacking someone's PayPal account is the same level of Federal Crime as if someone walked into your mailbox, opened your mail, and then published newspaper advertisements with photo scans of your mail.

Links incoming soon

§ 1030. Fraud and Related Activity in Connection with Computers

(a) Whoever

(1) having knowingly accessed a computer without authorization or exceeding authorized access, and by means of such conduct having obtained information that has been determined by the United States Government pursuant to an Executive order or statute to require protection against unauthorized disclosure for reasons of national defense or foreign relations, or any restricted data, as defined in paragraph y. of section 11 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, with reason to believe that such information so obtained could be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation willfully communicates, delivers, transmits, or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;
(2) intentionally accesses a computer without authorization or exceeds authorized access, and thereby obtains--

(A) information contained in a financial record of a financial institution, or of a card issuer as defined in section 1602(n) of title 15, or contained in a file of a consumer reporting agency on a consumer, as such terms are defined in the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15 U.S.C. 1681 et seq.);
(B) information from any department or agency of the United States; or

(C) information from any protected computer if the conduct involved an interstate or foreign communication;

Enjoy going all Duke Lacrosse on me while I'm busy reporting this.

[Miji]

You guys are demanding proof that they're fake? Someone has now proven they'll use dishonest means to their ends, and they post pictures as evidence on the internet and you assume they're real? Give me a break.

[Wizerd]

For the record, buying gil is not a crime, it's just against SquareEnix's rules and they have the right to ban you for it if they want to (just like they also have the right to ban you for no reason, pretty much, if they want lol).

[Fallso]

protip: Hacking someone's PayPal account is the same level of Federal Crime as if someone walked into your mailbox, opened your mail, and then published newspaper advertisements with photo scans of your mail.

Links incoming soon

§ 1030. Fraud and Related Activity in Connection with Computers

(a) Whoever

(1) having knowingly accessed a computer without authorization or exceeding authorized access, and by means of such conduct having obtained information that has been determined by the United States Government pursuant to an Executive order or statute to require protection against unauthorized disclosure for reasons of national defense or foreign relations, or any restricted data, as defined in paragraph y. of section 11 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, with reason to believe that such information so obtained could be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation willfully communicates, delivers, transmits, or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;
(2) intentionally accesses a computer without authorization or exceeds authorized access, and thereby obtains--

(A) information contained in a financial record of a financial institution, or of a card issuer as defined in section 1602(n) of title 15, or contained in a file of a consumer reporting agency on a consumer, as such terms are defined in the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15 U.S.C. 1681 et seq.);
(B) information from any department or agency of the United States; or

(C) information from any protected computer if the conduct involved an interstate or foreign communication;

Enjoy going all Duke Lacrosse on me while I'm busy reporting this.

Have fun trying to prove to the cops that it was Taj.

[Lexa]

Taj is unethical, Kalia is a gilbuyer, yatta, yatta...

If nothing else, this thread definitely made for an amusing read to wake up to!

=D>

[Dank]

I'm not saying it for sure happened, but I don't think you guys understand how easy it is to photoshop something like this. Actually though, if you wanted to disprove it Divisor, you could maybe take a video of you showing your paypal account on your PC screen, I would think a video would be alot harder if not impossible to fix to look right.

[Sho]

For the record, buying gil is not a crime, it's just against SquareEnix's rules and they have the right to ban you for it if they want to (just like they also have the right to ban you for no reason, pretty much, if they want lol).

Not a crime indeed. It sure does pwn your credibility, however.

[divisortheory]

protip: Hacking someone's PayPal account is the same level of Federal Crime as if someone walked into your mailbox, opened your mail, and then published newspaper advertisements with photo scans of your mail.

Links incoming soon

§ 1030. Fraud and Related Activity in Connection with Computers

(a) Whoever

(1) having knowingly accessed a computer without authorization or exceeding authorized access, and by means of such conduct having obtained information that has been determined by the United States Government pursuant to an Executive order or statute to require protection against unauthorized disclosure for reasons of national defense or foreign relations, or any restricted data, as defined in paragraph y. of section 11 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, with reason to believe that such information so obtained could be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation willfully communicates, delivers, transmits, or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;
(2) intentionally accesses a computer without authorization or exceeds authorized access, and thereby obtains--

(A) information contained in a financial record of a financial institution, or of a card issuer as defined in section 1602(n) of title 15, or contained in a file of a consumer reporting agency on a consumer, as such terms are defined in the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15 U.S.C. 1681 et seq.);
(B) information from any department or agency of the United States; or

(C) information from any protected computer if the conduct involved an interstate or foreign communication;

Enjoy going all Duke Lacrosse on me while I'm busy reporting this.

Have fun trying to prove to the cops that it was Taj.

Like the screenshots I took of him posting the information (including his forum name on the post of course :D), the saved webpages, and the screenshots of PMs saying that "he said all 3 passwords were the same"? Or how about paypal's weblogs confirming that my account was accessed by an IP address which can no doubt be traced back to him? Or how about the phpBB2 database which keeps backups of everything?