Dear Ganiman, (op updated)

[Dank]

I'm not saying it for sure happened, but I don't think you guys understand how easy it is to photoshop something like this. Actually though, if you wanted to disprove it Divisor, you could maybe take a video of you showing your paypal account on your PC screen, I would think a video would be alot harder if not impossible to fix to look right.

Coulda swore Divisor mentioned it was indeed his PayPal account.

He said it was his paypal accounts and that he made purchases of those amounts on those days, but from what I gather he's pretty much saying the things he bought were real items or services, not FFXI gil. Or he's just admitting to it because he doesn't care, I dunno.

Exactly, he said he did make purchases on those dates, but the purchases were not from IGE, that part was fabricated by Taj. A webcam or phone video can save your credibility DT.

[Sho]

For the record, buying gil is not a crime, it's just against SquareEnix's rules and they have the right to ban you for it if they want to (just like they also have the right to ban you for no reason, pretty much, if they want lol).

Not a crime indeed. It sure does pwn your credibility, however.

Yes, the credibility of the person that hacked the account of someone else they didn't agree with on the internet, and then may or may not have completely fabricated the evidence of said gil-buying.

I'm under the assumtion that Divisor admits to gil buying and that screenshot [of it being his PayPal account, why he's on a tirade to get back at Taj right now]... so how could it be fabricated? Whereas everyone knows about Taj and his various expliots. If Taj credibility "is shot" from this, then the time for that has already come and gone.

@ Dank, Divisor is also known to lie in the past.

[Fallso]

Can't recall a time that Taj has lied to us before, whereas Divisor has before.

I can't recall a time when DivisorTheory created multiple aliases to try to rig the Vanadiel Madness contest.

I think you're a bit of an idiot.

[Wizerd]

I'm not saying it for sure happened, but I don't think you guys understand how easy it is to photoshop something like this. Actually though, if you wanted to disprove it Divisor, you could maybe take a video of you showing your paypal account on your PC screen, I would think a video would be alot harder if not impossible to fix to look right.

Coulda swore Divisor mentioned it was indeed his PayPal account.

He said it was his paypal accounts and that he made purchases of those amounts on those days, but from what I gather he's pretty much saying the things he bought were real items or services, not FFXI gil. Or he's just admitting to it because he doesn't care, I dunno.

Exactly, he said he did make purchases on those dates, but the purchases were not from IGE, that part was fabricated by Taj. A webcam or phone video can save your credibility DT.

At this point I don't think Divisor cares too much about saving his credibility. It looks to me like he's focusing his efforts on legal action against Taj for accessing his Paypal account. And from an avid Paypal user, I personally say more power to him. I don't want someone else accessing my Paypal account, not even if they're just going in to view and screenshot it - it's an invasion of privacy and raises huge concerns. It's just not cool.

[Rocl]

If Taj will hack us through windower, then divisortheory will do it through Dvsparse.

Man, just you wait, the rapture is coming and only PS2 users and Kuno will be left.

[alphacat]

Can't recall a time that Taj has lied to us before, whereas Divisor has before.

Right, because it's hard to believe a burglar who breaks into your house will lie about what he stole.

Fallso, just shut the fuck up.

If Taj will hack us through windower, then divisortheory will do it through Dvsparse.

Man, just you wait, the rapture is coming and only PS2 users and Kuno will be left.

Alluding to what I said above. It's NOT hard to believe someone who breaks into your house will lie about what he stole, but it IS hard to believe someone who steals a few pennies from a tip jar will break into your house.

[Wizerd]

If Taj will hack us through windower, then divisortheory will do it through Dvsparse.

Man, just you wait, the rapture is coming and only PS2 users and Kuno will be left.

I have to ask, why Kuno? lol

[Miji]

Screenshots can be photoshopped, they're not really significant proof.

Yet you believe that Taj's screenshots are gospel.

Can't recall a time that Taj has lied to us before, whereas Divisor has before.

You've already said they're not significant proof. You can't have it both ways.

[ringthree]

For the record, buying gil is not a crime, it's just against SquareEnix's rules and they have the right to ban you for it if they want to (just like they also have the right to ban you for no reason, pretty much, if they want lol).

Not a crime indeed. It sure does pwn your credibility, however.

Yes, the credibility of the person that hacked the account of someone else they didn't agree with on the internet, and then may or may not have completely fabricated the evidence of said gil-buying.

I'm under the assumtion that Divisor admits to gil buying and that screenshot [of it being his PayPal account, why he's on a tirade to get back at Taj right now]... so how could it be fabricated? Whereas everyone knows about Taj and his various expliots. If Taj credibility "is shot" from this, then the time for that has already come and gone.

@ Dank, Divisor is also known to lie in the past.

You missed the "hacked his account and e-mail" part.

[Dank]

I agree, and I'm starting to believe that he probably did buy gil, because not once has he made a post saying "I did not buy gil", I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt and pointing out what could be done to fix it.

[Shuvo]

I kinda interpreted it as him realizing that any kind of denial would be futile against the mob mentality, regardless of whether he bought gil or not.

[schlomo]

you guys think Taj did all this shit because "he disagreed with him on the iternet"
i think Taj did this cause Taj is playing the hero not the villian, point blank divisor is a junior whatever and he bought gil, so taj did this cause divisor is an asshole, is what i think.

[Fallso]

Screenshots can be photoshopped, they're not really significant proof.

Yet you believe that Taj's screenshots are gospel.

Can't recall a time that Taj has lied to us before, whereas Divisor has before.

You've already said they're not significant proof. You can't have it both ways.

That's right, you can't, which is why you have to fall back onto the persons credibility.

[Attila]

Screenshots can be photoshopped, they're not really significant proof.

Yet you believe that Taj's screenshots are gospel.

Considering divisortheory continually says "Those transactions went through on the same day etc etc

Once again, it was my PayPal account because I had transactions for those exact amounts on those days.

But says nothing else short of "Oh man time to try to pursue legal action over an internet scandal" kinda makes me believe- just maybe- just perhaps, this guy who's been accused of gilbuying since the dawn of time and neither confirm nor denied it: actually does indeed buy gil!

I kinda interpreted it as him realizing that any kind of denial would be futile against the mob mentality, regardless of whether he bought gil or not.

The above is likely true. All of this is pointless unless he decides to video himself checking the account though.

[ringthree]

I agree, and I'm starting to believe that he probably did buy gil, because not once has he made a post saying "I did not buy gil", I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt and pointing out what could be done to fix it.

If he has lied in the past, why the hell wouldn't he just lie about it now? Your logic is so flawed its laughable. See Shuvo for something closer to actual logic.

[Miji]

Screenshots can be photoshopped, they're not really significant proof.

Yet you believe that Taj's screenshots are gospel.

Can't recall a time that Taj has lied to us before, whereas Divisor has before.

You've already said they're not significant proof. You can't have it both ways.

That's right, you can't, which is why you have to fall back onto the persons credibility.

Credibility is not proof, sorry.

[Byrd]

Can't recall a time that Taj has lied to us before, whereas Divisor has before.

I can't recall a time when DivisorTheory created multiple aliases to try to rig the Vanadiel Madness contest.

I think you're a bit of an idiot.

I disagree with you, therefore I am an idiot. I love the internet.

To explain my point a little more clearly, my point was that Taj has displayed a blatant willingness to ignore the rules for his own ends before. That establishes a precedence that should brand any of his evidence as suspect in my eyes.

Let's for a minute assume that Divisortheory did buy gil in 2004. Why the hell is buying gil (three years ago, I might add) a bigger sin than breaking into someone else's Paypal account?

[Sho]

For the record, buying gil is not a crime, it's just against SquareEnix's rules and they have the right to ban you for it if they want to (just like they also have the right to ban you for no reason, pretty much, if they want lol).

Not a crime indeed. It sure does pwn your credibility, however.

Yes, the credibility of the person that hacked the account of someone else they didn't agree with on the internet, and then may or may not have completely fabricated the evidence of said gil-buying.

I'm under the assumtion that Divisor admits to gil buying and that screenshot [of it being his PayPal account, why he's on a tirade to get back at Taj right now]... so how could it be fabricated? Whereas everyone knows about Taj and his various expliots. If Taj credibility "is shot" from this, then the time for that has already come and gone.

@ Dank, Divisor is also known to lie in the past.

You missed the "hacked his account and e-mail" part.

I'll quote myself.

Whereas everyone knows about Taj and his various expliots.

Nuh uh. Not saying he didn't do it, he probably did. It can go both ways, however-- he might have gotten the SS from someone else JUST MIGHT HAVE.

[Rocl]

If Taj will hack us through windower, then divisortheory will do it through Dvsparse.

Man, just you wait, the rapture is coming and only PS2 users and Kuno will be left.

I have to ask, why Kuno? lol

Kuno refuses to use third party tomfoolery like windower

(God it is ever annoying to hear "Can someone move me to such and such channel? on vent >o )

[alphacat]

you guys think Taj did all this shit because "he disagreed with him on the iternet"
i think Taj did this cause Taj is playing the hero not the villian, point blank divisor is a junior whatever and he bought gil, so taj did this cause divisor is an asshole, is what i think.

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English, mother fucker. Do you speak it?