The catch em all thread...

[Kiarax]

I don't get why people are just abusing Diablos to level to 50. Watching your pet kill stuff in 1-3 hits is fun for about 2 fights. Watching your pet die in 1-3 hits is fun for 0 fights. It's nice to see people ruining something that was put in to be fun. Enjoy mindlessly throwing your pet at the champion so you can level unnaturally.

[liefe]

I don't get why people are just abusing Diablos to level to 50. Watching your pet kill stuff in 1-3 hits is fun for about 2 fights. Watching your pet die in 1-3 hits is fun for 0 fights. It's nice to see people ruining something that was put in to be fun. Enjoy mindlessly throwing your pet at the champion so you can level unnaturally.

Because waiting 42 minutes for 5 experience points is so much more worthwhile?
Obviously it's going to get abused, and because of that same reason hopefully changed.

[Falconblade]

I don't get why people are just abusing Diablos to level to 50. Watching your pet kill stuff in 1-3 hits is fun for about 2 fights. Watching your pet die in 1-3 hits is fun for 0 fights. It's nice to see people ruining something that was put in to be fun. Enjoy mindlessly throwing your pet at the champion so you can level unnaturally.

Its not even that, its because its the best way to exp. So much better, that the others are usually just a waste of time unless you get lucky with opponants.
You lose to your level or lower= 5 exp.
You win to One level lower= 75 exp.
Win to something very low=5 exp.
You win same or higher level=100

Its just not worth the risk. Losing once is a waste of 40 minutes. They need to fix how exp calculates for regular places to be worth it.

While I do enjoy the matches in A, B, C, in the end, its just not as worthwhile as D.

[Rocl]

I for one, don't care about getting 5 exp when all my traits level up (*'-')b

[Falconblade]

I for one, don't care about getting 5 exp when all my traits level up (*'-')b

Yeah, I kinda regret putting all my FP on Attack 15%.
Nothing to gain each level but exp

[Kiarax]

The best way to exp =/= fun. Sure seeing your pet level up is nice but I'd much rather fight stuff my level. If you enjoy seeing your pet get slaughtered just so you can get 100 exp, great. But for the people who come here to have fun you completely ruin one of the 4 cages. What do you expect to do when you're level 50? Randomly pit yourself against the level 10~20 pets in A/B/C? Getting your pet to 50 isn't an accomplishment when you abuse a flawed cage design.

[Falconblade]

The best way to exp =/= fun. Sure seeing your pet level up is nice but I'd much rather fight stuff my level. If you enjoy seeing your pet get slaughtered just so you can get 100 exp, great. But for the people who come here to have fun you completely ruin one of the 4 cages. What do you expect to do when you're level 50? Randomly pit yourself against the level 10~20 pets in A/B/C? Getting your pet to 50 isn't an accomplishment when you abuse a flawed cage design.

When you're level 8, most of what you'll fight in ABC is 10~15.
You have to keep taking out your app and putting it back in to get a fair fight, because this game has shit for matchmaking.

[Doc]

If you remove say, a lvl10 Attack Bonus and later on teach it Attack Bonus again, will it be level10 again or just whatever random level it is from the mob you just got it from?

[Obiron]

Ok, lets do this a different way.

100exp per loss. You start at 8. 80m per match
42 levels.
84 matches.
6720 minutes
112 hours
4.6 days to 50.

except it's not 100 exp per loss unless you're so low-leveled compared to the champ that you die in 3-4 hits.

Let's also not forget that if you work (and/or go to school) and sleep, you won't be able to register for so many matches, unlike the winner who can stay in with no user input. I can only do one match in the morning (register before I go to work), and then a few after work before I go to bed. I'm not saying that I won't fight in Diablo because that's where I had my very first fight (a loss of course), but it's not as easy as you say unless you have a champ.

[Kiarax]

The best way to exp =/= fun. Sure seeing your pet level up is nice but I'd much rather fight stuff my level. If you enjoy seeing your pet get slaughtered just so you can get 100 exp, great. But for the people who come here to have fun you completely ruin one of the 4 cages. What do you expect to do when you're level 50? Randomly pit yourself against the level 10~20 pets in A/B/C? Getting your pet to 50 isn't an accomplishment when you abuse a flawed cage design.

When you're level 8, most of what you'll fight in ABC is 10~15.
You have to keep taking out your app and putting it back in to get a fair fight, because this game has shit for matchmaking.

I realize I'm ranting, it's just really annoying to not be able to participate in potentially the most fun cage. If you want fair fights though, just party up with friends or random people from /say or /shout with a similar level to you. I find it much more fun to have a fair and interesting fight with someone either the same level as me or 1 level higher/lower.

[lilfoo]

In my experience, for the additional x damage, the number is basically the maximum additional damage you can do.

Every level I have gone up (Enlight), my max enlight damage has gone up 1 point.

So, Additional Light Damage +25 is equivalent to a level 25 additional light damage (and if they do indeed cap at 50, that means that a lvl 50 enlight is twice as good as +25, for just over 50% more cost).

ok this brings up some questions from my data. my En:light dose consistently more dmg then the lvl of the spell. could this mean on of 2 things. light dmg +15% ups my en:light or it gets stronger the higher you go.

[Clipse]

Has anyone figured out if abilities are still able to level up even after the pet has hit Lv.50?

[Priran]

You win same or higher level=100

I've gotten 125 for killing something 2 levels higher than me.

Has anyone figured out if abilities are still able to level up even after the pet has hit Lv.50?

considering they level up even if you don't, I would assume they do.

[liefe]

The best way to exp =/= fun. Sure seeing your pet level up is nice but I'd much rather fight stuff my level. If you enjoy seeing your pet get slaughtered just so you can get 100 exp, great. But for the people who come here to have fun you completely ruin one of the 4 cages. What do you expect to do when you're level 50? Randomly pit yourself against the level 10~20 pets in A/B/C? Getting your pet to 50 isn't an accomplishment when you abuse a flawed cage design.

When you're level 8, most of what you'll fight in ABC is 10~15.
You have to keep taking out your app and putting it back in to get a fair fight, because this game has shit for matchmaking.

I realize I'm ranting, it's just really annoying to not be able to participate in potentially the most fun cage. If you want fair fights though, just party up with friends or random people from /say or /shout with a similar level to you. I find it much more fun to have a fair and interesting fight with someone either the same level as me or 1 level higher/lower.

It's still fun when you get the few hard fights your pet faces (if you're not AFK). Nothing like the JP who /bows to you and gets all cocky with their pet 3 levels higher than you they think will crush you, when you guard&counter their WS spam doing massive damage to them while mitigating their attack. Next match they come back with an angry seacom and don't bow. Very entertaining.

Er, yeah, that aside though..nobody is debating as to whether or not the ring design was severely flawed or not (JP champ that I took throne from would log off and sleep and their pet would continue to fight even when logged off, for example). It's stupid not to maximize your productivity in a game so rich in timesinking though.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Pankration is so inconsequential, I'm not sure why ANYONE wants to do something besides have fun with it

[Excalin Garisk]

Pankration is so inconsequential, I'm not sure why ANYONE wants to do something besides have fun with it

I hear its the secret to AV

[Zumi]

I have around 450 wins in a row i think my exp is capped 2000, can i cancel my app to claim my exp? Or if i cancel will I just lose that exp? I don't think anyone is beating me at this point.

[Khamsin]

I have around 450 wins in a row i think my exp is capped 2000, can i cancel my app to claim my exp? Or if i cancel will I just lose that exp? I don't think anyone is beating me at this point.

You have to trade your reflector to the application-taker to get xp. I don't think you have to cancel or reapply or anything.

[Clipse]

The best way to exp =/= fun. Sure seeing your pet level up is nice but I'd much rather fight stuff my level. If you enjoy seeing your pet get slaughtered just so you can get 100 exp, great. But for the people who come here to have fun you completely ruin one of the 4 cages. What do you expect to do when you're level 50? Randomly pit yourself against the level 10~20 pets in A/B/C? Getting your pet to 50 isn't an accomplishment when you abuse a flawed cage design.

When you're level 8, most of what you'll fight in ABC is 10~15.
You have to keep taking out your app and putting it back in to get a fair fight, because this game has shit for matchmaking.

I realize I'm ranting, it's just really annoying to not be able to participate in potentially the most fun cage. If you want fair fights though, just party up with friends or random people from /say or /shout with a similar level to you. I find it much more fun to have a fair and interesting fight with someone either the same level as me or 1 level higher/lower.

It's still fun when you get the few hard fights your pet faces (if you're not AFK). Nothing like the JP who /bows to you and gets all cocky with their pet 3 levels higher than you they think will crush you, when you guard&counter their WS spam doing massive damage to them while mitigating their attack. Next match they come back with an angry seacom and don't bow. Very entertaining.

Er, yeah, that aside though..nobody is debating as to whether or not the ring design was severely flawed or not (JP champ that I took throne from would log off and sleep and their pet would continue to fight even when logged off, for example). It's stupid not to maximize your productivity in a game so rich in timesinking though.

Pokemon is serious business to the JP's.

[Kaelan]

does anyone know how stuff like double attack works?

does DA+15% work without setting double attack trait?
and does war main with war traits set give DA?
or just at a certain lvl(or not at all and you need to have double attack trait equipped specifically,which would suck <.< )

mines lvl 16 now,but i didnt notice any DAs go off so far
thats with war main and war traits equipped

Surely if it follows the player levelling model, you won't get DA until your pet is lv25. Or 50 if it has a WAR support job.

I don't think that is necessarily true. If it were, then why do Triple Attack plates exist, if TrA is THF55?

From what I understand, they follow the same model as the other bonuses. Both DA+15% and DA Trait give you DA, but the trait caps out higher(and costs more FP). Same for TA.

What I want to know is, do they stack?