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  1. #1501
    Ridill
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Necronus
    Right now I'm a Ram enthusiast, currently in possession of a Ram bred from a Caedarva Mire Mosshoof (had no idea they even existed there).

    Although I'll likely withold posting my findings in a wiki til the BG wiki is setup, I was wondering if anyone caught Steelfleece/Bloodtear/Amalthea/Aries. Seeing as how some NM's get a free subjob, I was wondering if any of them turned out to be "special" (I'm gonna pre-emptively presume Rampaging/Lumbering are not "special").

    Although I've seen only one other Ram so far on my server, in case anyones interested heres my job findings so far:

    WAR: Default
    MNK: Not Allowed (Cry, I wanted this SJ so bad)
    SAM: Not Allowed (There goes my HP build)
    DRG: Not Allowed (Great, there goes the MP-less jobs with decent HP/STR/VIT)
    PLD: Allowed (My current sub)
    WHM: Allowed (Not personally confirmed, but spoke to the other Ram owner, he pretty much went through th same MNK->SAM->PLD rejection pattern I went through, but said WHM works too)

    I'll post any more findings in the wiki when its ready.
    Why would SAM sub be important to an HP build? WARs have the 2nd most HP (behind MNKs), anyways. Not sure how SAM compares, although it is possible they may be tied (if not close behind).

  2. #1502
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan
    Quote Originally Posted by Necronus
    MNK: Not Allowed (Cry, I wanted this SJ so bad)
    SAM: Not Allowed (There goes my HP build)
    DRG: Not Allowed (Great, there goes the MP-less jobs with decent HP/STR/VIT)
    PLD: Allowed (My current sub)
    WHM: Allowed (Not personally confirmed, but spoke to the other Ram owner, he pretty much went through th same MNK->SAM->PLD rejection pattern I went through, but said WHM works too)

    I'll post any more findings in the wiki when its ready.
    Why arent certain sub/main jobs allowed? I don't get this...
    Have you ever seen a Skeleton cast cure, or a Worm shoot an arrow?

    Because certain mobs work certain ways, and only some jobs work in those ways.

  3. #1503
    the whitest knight u' know
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Falconblade
    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan
    Quote Originally Posted by Necronus
    MNK: Not Allowed (Cry, I wanted this SJ so bad)
    SAM: Not Allowed (There goes my HP build)
    DRG: Not Allowed (Great, there goes the MP-less jobs with decent HP/STR/VIT)
    PLD: Allowed (My current sub)
    WHM: Allowed (Not personally confirmed, but spoke to the other Ram owner, he pretty much went through th same MNK->SAM->PLD rejection pattern I went through, but said WHM works too)

    I'll post any more findings in the wiki when its ready.
    Why arent certain sub/main jobs allowed? I don't get this...
    Have you ever seen a Skeleton cast cure, or a Worm shoot an arrow?

    Because certain mobs work certain ways, and only some jobs work in those ways.
    GASTRIC BOMMMMMMMMMMB

  4. #1504
    Ridill
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Falconblade
    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan
    Quote Originally Posted by Necronus
    MNK: Not Allowed (Cry, I wanted this SJ so bad)
    SAM: Not Allowed (There goes my HP build)
    DRG: Not Allowed (Great, there goes the MP-less jobs with decent HP/STR/VIT)
    PLD: Allowed (My current sub)
    WHM: Allowed (Not personally confirmed, but spoke to the other Ram owner, he pretty much went through th same MNK->SAM->PLD rejection pattern I went through, but said WHM works too)

    I'll post any more findings in the wiki when its ready.
    Why arent certain sub/main jobs allowed? I don't get this...
    Have you ever seen a Skeleton cast cure, or a Worm shoot an arrow?

    Because certain mobs work certain ways, and only some jobs work in those ways.
    That would be the coolest thing ever >.> (just slightly off topic)

  5. #1505
    Daddy Warbucks
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Why would SAM sub be important to an HP build? WARs have the 2nd most HP (behind MNKs), anyways. Not sure how SAM compares, although it is possible they may be tied (if not close behind).
    99% sure sam and war have the same hp

  6. #1506
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko
    Quote Originally Posted by Falconblade
    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan
    Quote Originally Posted by Necronus
    MNK: Not Allowed (Cry, I wanted this SJ so bad)
    SAM: Not Allowed (There goes my HP build)
    DRG: Not Allowed (Great, there goes the MP-less jobs with decent HP/STR/VIT)
    PLD: Allowed (My current sub)
    WHM: Allowed (Not personally confirmed, but spoke to the other Ram owner, he pretty much went through th same MNK->SAM->PLD rejection pattern I went through, but said WHM works too)

    I'll post any more findings in the wiki when its ready.
    Why arent certain sub/main jobs allowed? I don't get this...
    Have you ever seen a Skeleton cast cure, or a Worm shoot an arrow?

    Because certain mobs work certain ways, and only some jobs work in those ways.
    GASTRIC BOMMMMMMMMMMB
    Some stay dry and others can't use ranged.

  7. #1507
    Puppetmaster
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    To anyone who has Added Effect: Light : From your experience, what mobs resist the light damage effect?

  8. #1508
    Ridill
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Seki
    To anyone who has Added Effect: Light : From your experience, what mobs resist the light damage effect?
    Someone was saying Plantoids do, so maybe its best to use another element that no Pankration mob family resists. Like Enstone or something (unless something resists that, too).

  9. #1509
    Issac
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Spoony Bob
    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko
    Quote Originally Posted by Falconblade
    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan
    Quote Originally Posted by Necronus
    MNK: Not Allowed (Cry, I wanted this SJ so bad)
    SAM: Not Allowed (There goes my HP build)
    DRG: Not Allowed (Great, there goes the MP-less jobs with decent HP/STR/VIT)
    PLD: Allowed (My current sub)
    WHM: Allowed (Not personally confirmed, but spoke to the other Ram owner, he pretty much went through th same MNK->SAM->PLD rejection pattern I went through, but said WHM works too)

    I'll post any more findings in the wiki when its ready.
    Why arent certain sub/main jobs allowed? I don't get this...
    Have you ever seen a Skeleton cast cure, or a Worm shoot an arrow?

    Because certain mobs work certain ways, and only some jobs work in those ways.
    GASTRIC BOMMMMMMMMMMB
    Some stay dry and others can't use ranged.
    rofl

  10. #1510
    Relic Weapons
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Seki
    To anyone who has Added Effect: Light : From your experience, what mobs resist the light damage effect?
    i would say plantoids have a slight resistance but one acrolith blew me out of the water cause my en:light was only doing 1-9ish dmg (norm was 30+)

  11. #1511
    Sagacious Sundi
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Question to anyone who has and/or has fought an acrolith, what do the NPCs call its family?

  12. #1512
    Hydra
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    family is arcana,if thats what you mean

  13. #1513
    Ridill
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvaria
    family is arcana,if thats what you mean
    He means whether it lists it as part of the Acrolith family, or Mumbo Jumbo family.

    e.g. it calls Mimics "Mimic" as opposed to "Archaic Chest", Detectors "Spheroid" instead of "Detector", etc.

  14. #1514
    Hydra
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    if you can tell me where to check that i can try,didnt notice something like that

  15. #1515
    Sagacious Sundi
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    If you trade just the reflector to the plate/skill NPC, he'll tell you its stats and stuff.

  16. #1516
    the whitest knight u' know
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Acrolith Family = "Acrolith" It's simply based on model.

    It's also classified as Arcana as mentioned, when it comes to killer effects.

  17. #1517
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Has anyone noticed Max FP jump up by >1 points after a ding? I swear my mandy was 68 max at 24 and now is 70 at 25...

  18. #1518
    Ridill
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko
    Acrolith Family = "Acrolith" It's simply based on model.

    It's also classified as Arcana as mentioned, when it comes to killer effects.
    I've seen a Detector classified as Spheroid, despite the mob not being called that.

  19. #1519
    the whitest knight u' know
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Mob family name doesn't mean there needs to be a mob in the game actually named that.

    What are toads classified as?

  20. #1520
    Ridill
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    Re: The catch em all thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko
    Mob family name doesn't mean there needs to be a mob in the game actually named that.

    What are toads classified as?
    That's what I'm saying. Good to see we're in agreement.

    (I misread your previous post and thought you were saying it just names it after what you got the picture from)

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