Einherjar: Wing/Tier 3

[Eliseos]

Ah, I don't think we've ever had the tiger depop (at least not in any run I can remember), so that message just seemed sort of counter-intuitive to what happens when the bird is killed. Thought it was one of those SE-English moments like "Eliseos is STR down!".

[Alibeemac]

Had horrid luck in T3 recently :< 3/4 bad runs. The last T3 was 6 Dahak then 8 Wamoura surrounded by 16 frogs and then 6 Wivre ~.~ Followed up by Khim boss which wouldn't have been so bad had we not only had under 3 mins on the clock when it popped >< Time out at 20% ugh.

[Xerlic]

Where do people get these random numbers from? Mobs only pop in waves of 6 or 12.

[Darkmoon]

Where do people get these random numbers from? Mobs only pop in waves of 6 or 12.

because it sounds better!

We did Tier 3 last night first wave was 32 Red Single bats + 76 Moths, Second wave was 345.7 Tauri followed by 43 Manticor-X with 4 Khim Bosses up (Diamond Spade Heart and Club).

/sarcasim off

What Xerlic said, Einherjar is very set with Multiples of 3.

9 Chambers, 3 Chambers for 3 waves.
3 Valks a wave
All Large mobs come in packs of 6
All Small mobs come in packs of 12

if you see more then 12, you have 2 waves of the same mob type

24 Skellys etc.

[Arthars]

"Stagnant aura has cleared" simply means something like: The normal, dull, boring environment around the mobs is no longer there. So be prepared for inc excited mobs that will come out and pwn u.

"Monster become restless" simply means something like: Mobs no longer feel tired, they are all on drugs now and can hunt you all out.

both together simply means: Yea dont expect us to be easy now, DIE U NOW!

sorry had to put it in these dull terms so you understand better.

i think not many people know the real meaning of restless.......they thinking restless means mobs are too tired and out of energy. But if you know your english right on these tricky words, restless simply means "Will no longer feel tired easily"

holy shit einherjar = english lessons

[Eliseos]

Uh, if you read what I've already said once more, you'll see that I said the bird gives the same message, except "The monsters have calmed" instead of restless. This means when you kill the bird, it says "The chamber's stagnant aura has somewhat cleared, the monsters lurking in the shadows have calmed." So clearly, "Stagnant Aura" doesn't mean "OMG THEY R GONNA COME PWN U LOL" in your words.

My initial confusion started with the fact that the message would be better off as something like "The chamber's stagnant aura has thickened, the monsters lurking in the shadow have become restless." or something along those lines. This argument is retarded and it's nothing more than you just saying that I have no idea what some word means, when that isn't the case at all. If you want an english lesson, go learn how to properly use paragraphs, grammar, and spelling.

[Judai]

because it sounds better!

We did Tier 3 last night first wave was 32 Red Single bats + 76 Moths, Second wave was 345.7 Tauri followed by 43 Manticor-X with 4 Khim Bosses up (Diamond Spade Heart and Club).

/sarcasim off

What Xerlic said, Einherjar is very set with Multiples of 3.

9 Chambers, 3 Chambers for 3 waves.
3 Valks a wave
All Large mobs come in packs of 6
All Small mobs come in packs of 12

if you see more then 12, you have 2 waves of the same mob type

24 Skellys etc.

LIES!

pink bird, brown bird, tiger, sheep

[Arthars]

opps sorry eliseos ^^

i have seen 0 sheeps after 3 months -_-

is sheep the one with phat loot?

[Judai]

supposedly, maybe the sheep is a like tho ._.a

[Eliseos]

I saw a post where someone claimed to kill the sheep, the chest (this was before they added ingots and things to the chest) gave 1 Cerb Hide, 1 Imperial Wootz Ingot, 1 Star Sapphire, and something else. It might have been a tier 1, talk about easy money.

[Darkmoon]

We had the Sheep once, and Hydra boss, and got nothing special but Hydra meat, and the typical mix of Plat/Gold Ingots.

So the Sheep is a lie!

making only the pink bird, brown bird, and tiger real which is 3!

[Eliseos]

Meh, another loss for my group tonight. We started with 6 Manticore, killed those, then 12 Kraken popped along with the tiger. We killed everything with about 20 minutes left on the lamp, Hydra and 6 Shadow Dragons popped. We kill the first two Dragons fine, and in not a lot of time at all. The next dragons seemed to have a huge defensive or HP boost to them, it took us double the time to kill it. Eventually silence wore, it used void song, and immediately after spammed chaos blade and body slam. We nearly wiped and ran out of time trying to kill them because of how much HP they had. I have no idea what caused the boost to them, but it was definitely there.

[donnie]

the only time we lose in einherjar is when players start to feel too comfortable with 2-3 monsters left. I remember once 2 slimes left to megaboss , and we nearly wiped and had to wait for unweakened players.
second time, and it was my fault , felt too comfortable with having 1 bomb left to megaboss which was hydra. So I told the LS to save TP on that bomb as we do usually on last monster, and that bomb self destruct making 70% of the alliance wipe.
so the morale of story, never take Einherjar easily, and should focus until last second.

[Neosutra]

the only time we lose in einherjar is when players start to feel too comfortable with 2-3 monsters left. I remember once 2 slimes left to megaboss , and we nearly wiped and had to wait for unweakened players.
second time, and it was my fault , felt too comfortable with having 1 bomb left to megaboss which was hydra. So I told the LS to save TP on that bomb as we do usually on last monster, and that bomb self destruct making 70% of the alliance wipe.
so the morale of story, never take Einherjar easily, and should focus until last second.

That happened to us this week. Cleared all 3 waves in like 17 minutes, then the last bomb self destructed and wiped all of our DDs Q.Q. All you can do is /facepalm on that and hope the boss isnt a dick. Ended up timing out that time.

Most of the time if we lose a tier3 it is because: 1. Black super Dragons. 2. unstunned bomb self destruct.

[Thorny]

I'm just dropping in to say that Arthars has the worst spelling/grammar of any frequent poster I've seen here. I found it hilarious to read his attempt to correct others..

[Eliseos]

the only time we lose in einherjar is when players start to feel too comfortable with 2-3 monsters left. I remember once 2 slimes left to megaboss , and we nearly wiped and had to wait for unweakened players.
second time, and it was my fault , felt too comfortable with having 1 bomb left to megaboss which was hydra. So I told the LS to save TP on that bomb as we do usually on last monster, and that bomb self destruct making 70% of the alliance wipe.
so the morale of story, never take Einherjar easily, and should focus until last second.

I feel the same way. I usually have our puller bring all of the mobs for a certain type in so people don't get comfortable, and they almost always pay attention.

My group's run yesterday consisted of 6 Marid + 6 Scorpions + Hydra. Everything was up as soon as we entered the chamber. The Marid and the Scorpions had a fuck ton of HP, it took about 10 minutes to clear each type. Killed Hydra with about 5 minutes to spare. Damn holiday on Thursday is forcing Odin to be on Monday

[Flic]

had the dude in the chair tonight along with his 12 demons, its first time we got this.
I was under the impression you kited the boss away while everyone else sleep/kill demons but when i tryed it keep useing draw in and we got raped, do people just pull demons to side like a normal wave ?

[Chojja]

Our Ideal setup is typically 3 melee parties, sch rdm brd, whm brd, whm rdm brd and then 3 melee in each group, then a blm pt with me on brd/nin pulling. The other 3 brds are the ones that do the bard swap, this is ideal though. Typically we dont end up with 5 blm, usually 2-3 and it usually ends up being only 2 brds in the main alliance, I end up going to it for 3rd song on boss. Has been working pretty well, we've only done like 7-8 T3 runs so far.

Best run so far was last one, 4 waves + Hydra boss with 19. Got to boss with 10 minutes remaining >.>

Vampire/Cerb boss are my favorites. Hydra was ok as long as you have enough time to kill it. KB is quick but MP intensive. Dvergr can fuck off, I hate that damn thing.

[vitali]

What made the difference for my group is bard rotation. Our DD alliance for our first tier 3 win looked like this x3:


DD
DD
DD
COR
BRD
RDM

Bards were rotated throughout the run. When it came boss time, we had hydra with about 6-7 minutes left. Did a SV Bard rotation and we took him down in about 3 minutes. Had 32 people total.

[Chojja]

I try to shoot my ideas and gameplans around 24 people or less, not 30+. 30+ is too much to control imo, seems too much like a "my mass of people vs your mass of mobs". Atleast with 24 and under I feel like im orchestrating something, as opposed to making sure I have enough mobs around to feed my angry mob of alliance members. Thats probably just me though. <.<