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  1. #101
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Stupid question, but do you really need Job Trait: Xxx for a mob that has that job as an inherited job? There's a guy here stating that his cactuar NIN is hitting twice per attack round at lvl 10 without Job Trait: Ninja. Is he lying/is Dual Wield Special/is it possible?

    I spent a lot of time getting Sub Job: Monk for my Apkullu, and I don't feel like removing it to see it if he'd still counter. Anyone have a MNK mob without Job Trait: Monk that can confirm/deny it?

  2. #102
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzor
    Stupid question, but do you really need Job Trait: Xxx for a mob that has that job as an inherited job? There's a guy here stating that his cactuar NIN is hitting twice per attack round at lvl 10 without Job Trait: Ninja. Is he lying/is Dual Wield Special/is it possible?

    I spent a lot of time getting Sub Job: Monk for my Apkullu, and I don't feel like removing it to see it if he'd still counter. Anyone have a MNK mob without Job Trait: Monk that can confirm/deny it?
    Speaking of Cactuars, how often do they use 1000 Needles instead of other abilities? Or do they have any other abilities besides 1000 Needles (at least, at first)?

  3. #103
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Don't think they get 1000 needles, not sure though. I've only seen Needle Shot.

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    The only person that I've heard of testing Job Trait: XXX, is a player on GameFAQs who said he didn't notice his monster (can't remember if it was a Korrigan or a Apkallu) countering and guarding before he gave it Job Trait: Monk. So, idunno for sure what these do. I imagine they're there for a reason, but then again, there is a CHR Bonus Feral Ability.

  5. #105
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Well, the reason could simply be: If you wish to change your main job to something else then the inherited one, or if you wish to give your pet a SJ and want the job traits from it.

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Mystic Weapon
    Family: Evil Weapon
    MJ: RDM
    SJ: BLM
    Lv: 8
    FP: 71

    Innate Traits:
    Magic Attack+15%

    I also had one with:
    Instant Aquaveil
    Resist Blind

  7. #107
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Quote Originally Posted by Seki
    I thought I got a pretty badass Apkallu, and reading through the ones you guys have posted, I feel extremely lucky.

    The one I got, from a Zhtab Apkallu was as follows:

    Job: Monk
    SJ: None
    Level: 8
    FP: 68
    HP+15%
    Attack Speed Bonus

    I threw on STR +25 (17 FP), Attack Bonus (30 FP), Monk Traits (12) and I still have enough FP left for a Killer Trait. I've yet to test this bad boy in battle but I'm super stoked now that I've seen how lucky I was to get him.

    Which Killer Trait is recommended?
    lucky prick

    try an enspell on him, youll be pleasently suprised.

  8. #108
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Killing Weapon
    FP: 71
    level 7 (Edit: may have started at level 8, I'm not 100% sure)
    Main: War
    Sub: Blm

    Didn't start with anything

    Will go capture more later and see what jobs are available >_> this one i'm using in pit full time (Edit 2: by later I mean after it fights in pit and i sign it up again)

  9. #109
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Alright maybe not new information to some but:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...eki/whoops.jpg

    Hooray for information available in game

    Edit: Why is it cropping the part that says "or support" >.<

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Quote Originally Posted by Seki
    Edit: Why is it cropping the part that says "or support" >.<
    change your forum skin

  11. #111
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    can anyone give advice for my dhaemel? it started with agi+25 and damage resistance bonus. i gave it evasion +15% and hp+15% but im not sure how much the hp helps. but the evasion is definately noticable i evaded a ram several levels higher than me then when i lost i got 100 exp.

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    I just got a STR Bonus plate. Should I remove STR +25 and put on STR Bonus? It's either +25 STR + Killer Trait that doesn't work 90% of the time or STR Bonus which probably ends up being stronger than +25 STR anyways.

  13. #113
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    I'm thinking the level dictates how much the bonus is

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Alright, results....

    Weapons at starting area of ro'maeve have the following skills attached to their souls

    Code:
    FP      Ability
    38      Auto Regen +5
    23      Instant Phalanx
    17      Instant Stoneskin
    17      Instant Shell
    17      Instant Protect
    17      Dex +25
    12      Instant Aquaveil
    8       Beast Killer
    Phalanx, Stoneskin, and Aquaveil I only found on RDM type weapons (Ominous Weapons), Auto-regen I only found on a war weapon, though it could just be pure luck that I even got it, everything else I could find on both Killer (war) and Ominous (rdm)

    Phalanx Plate with crystal
    phalanx didn't stick with weapon
    weapon was level 7
    Main: War
    Sub: Blm
    FP 0/71

    Auto-Regen Plate with crystal
    Auto-Regen didn't stick with weapon
    weapon was level 7
    Main: War
    Sub: Blm
    FP 0/71

    both Rdm and War weapons therefore become War/blm, level 7, with 71 FP total

    The Instant Aquaveil, Instant Shell, Instant Protect, and Undead killer plates stuck with the mob upon crystallizing, and the Undead Killer also came with 15% attack, all remained with 0/71 total FP

    Open to suggestion on more stuff to find out and stuff And yes, I realize that I may not have gotten every skill that comes from weapons, that's just what I got with 60 soul plates

  15. #115
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    I dont think we can say anything for sure yet about what can come with what. I got auto-regain on a chigoe, so they didn't think too much about what should have what. Also, some of the chances seem incredibly low (120 apkallus with no attack speed or regain, for example)

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Does a reflector made from a Shijin plate keep its model?

  17. #117
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    I've been using an apkallu MNK/WAR with MNK & WAR traits and evasion bonus - works moderately well... didn't come pre-packaged with anything though.

    Do you think the /WAR + WAR traits are a waste of FP, and if so - what are some of the better ones?

    I've yet to get Attack Speed or Regain (after ~100 Zhayolm Apkallu) - and the best things I've seen are Auto Regen and Store TP. I'm tempted to cave and camp Almighty Apkallu - does anyone know the spawn window on it? >.>;

  18. #118
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Last I checked it wasn't even in the game (just the .dats). I've never heard a confirmation of someone killing it

  19. #119
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    From the sig in previous posts
    "List of Mobs Starting FP (give or take):
    Detector - 87
    Chigoes - 74
    Pink Flamingo - 73
    Bomb Cluster - 71
    Groundskeeper - 61
    Apkallu - 68
    Rabbit - 64
    Korrigan - 59
    Sabotender - 57
    Taurus - 57
    Acrolith - 50
    Roc - 50
    Elder Goobue - 49
    Ram - 43
    Dahak - 29
    Wyvern - 27 "
    Dahak starts at lvl 8-9 26-27 FP, same with other dragons. Wyvern starts with 37 not 27.

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Quote Originally Posted by rath
    From the sig in previous posts
    "List of Mobs Starting FP (give or take):
    Detector - 87
    Chigoes - 74
    Pink Flamingo - 73
    Bomb Cluster - 71
    Groundskeeper - 61
    Apkallu - 68
    Rabbit - 64
    Korrigan - 59
    Sabotender - 57
    Taurus - 57
    Acrolith - 50
    Roc - 50
    Elder Goobue - 49
    Ram - 43
    Dahak - 29
    Wyvern - 27 "
    Dahak starts at lvl 8-9 26-27 FP, same with other dragons. Wyvern starts with 37 not 27.
    Weapons start with 71
    Wamouras start with 43
    Wamouracampa start with 54

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